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kao_ray

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:lol:

Icardi had 7 goals - 3 assists between CL and Ligue 1 this year. Playing with Neymar, Mbappe, Di Maria, etc. Insane. So prolific. We should definitely pay 50mil plus for him and give him 7-10 mil/year net. Would be incredible!:tuttosport:
Nah, if PSG want 50 mil for Icardi, better give 60 for a player like Vlahovic.
On the other hand I think a Morata type of deal is possible. Two year loan with an option to buy for around 25 mil. His salary is around 6 mil now, so it wouldn't be a big deal. If that's the case - why not?
 

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Post Ironic

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Nah, if PSG want 50 mil for Icardi, better give 60 for a player like Vlahovic.
On the other hand I think a Morata type of deal is possible. Two year loan with an option to buy for around 25 mil. His salary is around 6 mil now, so it wouldn't be a big deal. If that's the case - why not?
We already have an inconsistent 28 year old striker. And no obligation to purchase after this coming year. That’s great.

I don’t want another inconsistent 28 year old striker (he had averaged 15 goals/season in all comps the past 3 years), especially a slow one who requires being the focal point to perform, on fairly high wages into his 30s.

Get someone young with high potential.

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Icardi...What happened with taking into account shitty character before signing a player? Did that leave to Inter with Beppe?
Dusan is weirdly obsessed with Icardi. :shifty:
 

kao_ray

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We already have an inconsistent 28 year old striker. And no obligation to purchase after this coming year. That’s great.

I don’t want another inconsistent 28 year old striker (he had averaged 15 goals/season in all comps the past 3 years), especially a slow one who requires being the focal point to perform, on fairly high wages into his 30s.

Get someone young with high potential.
Inconsistent? He's had a major injuries this season but still managed to score 13 goals and do 6 assists in 28 games. Previous season he played 34 games and scored 20 goals + 4 assists. And his average playing time per game was 64 minutes.

I wish our inconsistent 28 year old was like that, damn it.

He is a bad character I agree with that but I'm fine cause he is not some criminal thug, it's not like our president didn't do some infidelity with his partner's wife. As a Juve fan, who am I to judge, really. Fino alla fine, bitches.
 

Dostoevsky

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We already have an inconsistent 28 year old striker. And no obligation to purchase after this coming year. That’s great.

I don’t want another inconsistent 28 year old striker (he had averaged 15 goals/season in all comps the past 3 years), especially a slow one who requires being the focal point to perform, on fairly high wages into his 30s.

Get someone young with high potential.

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Dusan is weirdly obsessed with Icardi. :shifty:
Lol. I think you're way more obsessed with both Icardi and Morata since you appear out of nowhere every single time somebody mentions them.

I wouldn't want to sign Icardi, not as a priority signing anyway, but I find it hilarious how people shit on him :lol2: he did such a great job at Inter it's crazy. But now everyone speaks about his spell in Paris while he managed to score goals there too, but sure, to a lesser extent.

There aren't many strikers at the moment who'd pretty much guarantee goals upfront. Imo Icardi would be one of them and he'll prove it if he leaves Paris. I simply refuse to believe logic where his best performances were at Inter and then he became shit. That's stupid.

But yes, I would try to focus on Vlahovic instead. I don't even like seeing Icardi's face. But I can't deny what he managed to achieve in his career.
 

Dostoevsky

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Inconsistent? He's had a major injuries this season but still managed to score 13 goals and do 6 assists in 28 games. Previous season he played 34 games and scored 20 goals + 4 assists. And his average playing time per game was 64 minutes.

I wish our inconsistent 28 year old was like that, damn it.

He is a bad character I agree with that but I'm fine cause he is not some criminal thug, it's not like our president didn't do some infidelity with his partner's wife. As a Juve fan, who am I to judge, really. Fino alla fine, bitches.
Thank you.
 

kao_ray

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Feb 28, 2014
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Lol. I think you're way more obsessed with both Icardi and Morata since you appear out of nowhere every single time somebody mentions them.

I wouldn't want to sign Icardi, not as a priority signing anyway, but I find it hilarious how people shit on him :lol2: he did such a great job at Inter it's crazy. But now everyone speaks about his spell in Paris while he managed to score goals there too, but sure, to a lesser extent.

There aren't many strikers at the moment who'd pretty much guarantee goals upfront. Imo Icardi would be one of them and he'll prove it if he leaves Paris. I simply refuse to believe logic where his best performances were at Inter and then he became shit. That's stupid.

But yes, I would try to focus on Vlahovic instead. I don't even like seeing Icardi's face. But I can't deny what he managed to achieve in his career.
I completely agree. He is not my first choice for a striker by far, but if we can get him on a good deal, especially on loan with an option to buy... We should grab it, unless we can secure someone else as a main goalscorer, which I'm all for.
 

DAiDEViL

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I completely agree. He is not my first choice for a striker by far, but if we can get him on a good deal, especially on loan with an option to buy... We should grab it, unless we can secure someone else as a main goalscorer, which I'm all for.
We don't need a main goalscorer that needs to be fed goals on a silver spoon when we have players like Morty, Dybala, Chiesa and maybe Kulu up front. Much prefer it when goals come from all players/are shared more equally. Carrying Ronaldo is one thing, but carrying Icardi? No thanks.
 

zizinho

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We don't need a main goalscorer that needs to be fed goals on a silver spoon when we have players like Morty, Dybala, Chiesa and maybe Kulu up front. Much prefer it when goals come from all players/are shared more equally. Carrying Ronaldo is one thing, but carrying Icardi? No thanks.
Last time we didn't have a big name up front, we scored 75 in the league. The goals were distributed equally but look at the names: Dybala 19, Mandzu 10, Pogba 8, Morata 7, Khedira 5, Zaza 5, Cuadrado 4, Bonucci 3, Evra 2, AS 2, Lemina 2... Do you have midfielders now capable of scoring 26 goals among them? I think a Dybala-Morata-Chiesa attack (even with the subs) isn't capable of giving you 50 goals next season, and the midfield won't be good enough to make up for it, like it was in 2016. I might be wrong but let's see, we might struggle with goals next season if Ronaldo leaves, and depending on who arrives
 

kao_ray

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We don't need a main goalscorer that needs to be fed goals on a silver spoon when we have players like Morty, Dybala, Chiesa and maybe Kulu up front. Much prefer it when goals come from all players/are shared more equally. Carrying Ronaldo is one thing, but carrying Icardi? No thanks.
I don't mind having a strong striker like Lewandowski or Haaland. But I do agree that we need a team with many players capable to be a danger for the other team.
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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Whats with the Icardi hate around these parts?

Halland or Mbappe aren’t coming here. Milik is subpar. Id love Vlahovic but that seems to have cooled off a bit. Icardi is the one who makes all the sense.

He’s a difficult character and Wanda doesn’t make things easier, but there aren’t that many cheaper options out there. Atleast with Icardi you get someone who is a proven, experienced goal scorer.

Let’s not ignore his ability infront of goal due to his issue off the pitch. It’s a risk worth taking i think. Maybe do a loan with no obligation at first?

You all will love that hattrick he will score vs Inter and then celebrate.

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1. He will come with some transfer fee, even if it's offset with another player moving in the other direction it's still a player we could've got cash for and due to his age his value will go downhill every year to the point of no resale value in ~4 years
2. At Inter he was outcast as a bad apple by Marotta, who we know is a reasonable guy
3. He earns a disproportionally large salary for what he has been offering on the pitch the past few years
4. It's a big question mark whether he can return to a level where he is Juventus material
 

ilmetronome

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Last time we didn't have a big name up front, we scored 75 in the league. The goals were distributed equally but look at the names: Dybala 19, Mandzu 10, Pogba 8, Morata 7, Khedira 5, Zaza 5, Cuadrado 4, Bonucci 3, Evra 2, AS 2, Lemina 2... Do you have midfielders now capable of scoring 26 goals among them? I think a Dybala-Morata-Chiesa attack (even with the subs) isn't capable of giving you 50 goals next season, and the midfield won't be good enough to make up for it, like it was in 2016. I might be wrong but let's see, we might struggle with goals next season if Ronaldo leaves, and depending on who arrives
Alle know how to maximize his player
I think we can get at least 55 goals from dybala morata chiesa kulu and incoming sub CF
Dybala 20, morata 12, chiesa 13, kulu 5, sub CF 5
With pogba and pjanic incoming we can get 75 goals comfortably.
 

Alex-444

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Lol. I think you're way more obsessed with both Icardi and Morata since you appear out of nowhere every single time somebody mentions them.

I wouldn't want to sign Icardi, not as a priority signing anyway, but I find it hilarious how people shit on him :lol2: he did such a great job at Inter it's crazy. But now everyone speaks about his spell in Paris while he managed to score goals there too, but sure, to a lesser extent.

There aren't many strikers at the moment who'd pretty much guarantee goals upfront. Imo Icardi would be one of them and he'll prove it if he leaves Paris. I simply refuse to believe logic where his best performances were at Inter and then he became shit. That's stupid.

But yes, I would try to focus on Vlahovic instead. I don't even like seeing Icardi's face. But I can't deny what he managed to achieve in his career.
I don't want to hear his whore wife's comments every week.
 

zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Alle know how to maximize his player
I think we can get at least 55 goals from dybala morata chiesa kulu and incoming sub CF
Dybala 20, morata 12, chiesa 13, kulu 5, sub CF 5
With pogba and pjanic incoming we can get 75 goals comfortably.
Pjanic won't impact that, unless he scores like 5 FKs. And Pogba won't come. Our current midfield, plus the rumored additions (Pjanic/Locatelli, one mezzala), will not be able to produce 20 goals among themselves. We will need big seasons from all of Dybala, Morata, Chiesa, plus either Kulu or whoever we sign instead of Ronaldo. Let's see but there is no reason to be optimistic
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Lol. I think you're way more obsessed with both Icardi and Morata since you appear out of nowhere every single time somebody mentions them.

I wouldn't want to sign Icardi, not as a priority signing anyway, but I find it hilarious how people shit on him :lol2: he did such a great job at Inter it's crazy. But now everyone speaks about his spell in Paris while he managed to score goals there too, but sure, to a lesser extent.

There aren't many strikers at the moment who'd pretty much guarantee goals upfront. Imo Icardi would be one of them and he'll prove it if he leaves Paris. I simply refuse to believe logic where his best performances were at Inter and then he became shit. That's stupid.

But yes, I would try to focus on Vlahovic instead. I don't even like seeing Icardi's face. But I can't deny what he managed to achieve in his career.
Literally every time someone mentions Icardi you go on and on about how amazing a signing he would be. And every time someone praised Morata you go on and on about how trash he is.

So... we in the same boat together, bro. Just on opposite sides ;)
 

JuveJay

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Icardi had 7 goals - 3 assists between CL and Ligue 1 this year. Playing with Neymar, Mbappe, Di Maria, etc. Insane. So prolific. We should definitely pay 50mil plus for him and give him 7-10 mil/year net. Would be incredible!:tuttosport:
Bit deceiving as he only played 1074 minutes in the league - less than a third of the season - and was injured for half of the season.

Reminds me of a certain other Argentine.
 

Post Ironic

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Inconsistent? He's had a major injuries this season but still managed to score 13 goals and do 6 assists in 28 games. Previous season he played 34 games and scored 20 goals + 4 assists. And his average playing time per game was 64 minutes.

I wish our inconsistent 28 year old was like that, damn it.

He is a bad character I agree with that but I'm fine cause he is not some criminal thug, it's not like our president didn't do some infidelity with his partner's wife. As a Juve fan, who am I to judge, really. Fino alla fine, bitches.
Lol, half his goals were in domestic cup comps against absolute trash.

He had 7 goals in about 1300 minutes in league and CL which is absolute trash given he plays in a far better and more creative attacking team than ours. Icardi in front of our shit midfield would be god awful :lol:

You wish our inconsistent 28 year old was like that? Are you and Dusan just too lazy to actually look at what these two have done in reality?

Morata had 20 goals - 12 assists in 2823 minutes this year. A goal or assist every 88 minutes. In his past spell here, since Dusan likes to count 5 years ago at Inter for Icardi, so I guess we should do the same for Morty he had 27 goals- 18 assists in 4679 minutes. A goal or assist every 104 minutes. And with coming up clutch in almost every big game for us that period.

Icardi’s best season /minute was last year with 20 goals - 4 assists in 2185 minutes. A goal or assist every 91 minutes. His best season as a starter with bigger minutes was 16-17 with 26 goals - 7 assists in 3426 minutes. A goal or assist every 104 minutes.

So... not sure how our 28 year old is somehow worse? :lol:
 
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