Summer mercato 2021-22 (60 Viewers)

[Adrian]

Interesting...so if he throws the toys out of the cot and demands to leave this summer we won't get the 150m. Makes the situation very difficult...as a club we can simply tell him he wont be sold until the next summer should he want out. He can't do much about it.

I think any form of rebuild needs to have MDL leading it. If he was to leave it would essentially break us and show the world we have basically turned to shit and have turned the clocks back 10 years.

As for allegri...probably the best option should a change be made. Can't think of any others available. We brought back lippi after lotti...it was another successful period, and I see no reason why allegri couldn't rebuild the team. I'm saying that I just wonder what he could have done with this team. Most likely a lot more than what pirlo has done.

 

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[Bjerknes]

Interesting...so if he throws the toys out of the cot and demands to leave this summer we won't get the 150m. Makes the situation very difficult...as a club we can simply tell him he wont be sold until the next summer should he want out. He can't do much about it.

I think any form of rebuild needs to have MDL leading it. If he was to leave it would essentially break us and show the world we have basically turned to shit and have turned the clocks back 10 years.

As for allegri...probably the best option should a change be made. Can't think of any others available. We brought back lippi after lotti...it was another successful period, and I see no reason why allegri couldn't rebuild the team. I'm saying that I just wonder what he could have done with this team. Most likely a lot more than what pirlo has done.

MDL leading the rebuild means MDL should be awarded the captaincy, at least at some point if these guys ever retire.

But -- Juventus has never had a foreign captain, AFAIK.

Ipso facto -- this guy's a goner.

 

[Xperd]

Calhanoğlu is better than Ramsey and Rabiot period. We are desperate for an assist man and no way we buy two world class players for next season. Let's be realistic here, selling Dybala will get you one Aouar or half Pogba, not both. Sacrifice De Ligt then you can rebuild the midfield otherwise it's not happening.

Bentancur, Arthur, Locatelli, Çalhanoğlu is immediately an upgrade. The stats don't lie, our midfield make zero contribution and that's why I'm against losing Dybala and Ronaldo, we will literally have nobody capable of scoring.

A signing like Calhanoglu exactly proves that the management and the coach are not in sync. Just like the past 3-4 years.

Let's add another slow and moody player to our already slow and lethargic midfield. What could go wrong

This concept of 'market opportunity' is hindering the club from making any progress. There is no versatile and adaptable coach like Allegri to clean up the 'mess' hence why clowns like Paratici get exposed for the frauds they truly are.

 

[petersmit]

Calhanoglu isn't the type of player that we would like to have as an improvement on our midfield. But if he'd come as a free deal and we would plusvalenza on ramsey as the opposite, I wouldn't be mad. That said, that should only happen if the cash we'd get for ramsey would unlock an actual improvement on our midfield

 

[BayernFan]

He’s ready for the taking

 

[Bianconero81]

Why not? Another relic on insane wages and a glorious injury record. He'd fit right in

 

[Xperd]

Calhanoglu isn't the type of player that we would like to have as an improvement on our midfield. But if he'd come as a free deal and we would plusvalenza on ramsey as the opposite, I wouldn't be mad. That said, that should only happen if the cash we'd get for ramsey would unlock an actual improvement on our midfield

This plusvalenza mentality is exactly what we need to get away from.

He comes on a free BUT he will occupy an important position in the team. So either we'll have to look out for a replacement within a year if he flops or we will be stuck with him for a few years content with his average/satisfactory performances. It's the same thing with Rabiot. It was the same thing with Khedira. Same old mistake repeating itself.

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Besides we'll be really lucky to plusvalenza Ramsey. Given how little he has contributed, I'm thinking another contract termination beckons.

 

[petersmit]

We can't get away from the plusvalenza mentality... Business is business...

 

[Xperd]

We can't get away from the plusvalenza mentality... Business is business...

Business at the expense of jeopardizing sporting objectives is not business.

Hence why we are in this mess currently.

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I would rather give Kulusevski a run at the center of the pitch in that Ramsey role than bringing in Calhanoglu.

Fuck Calhanoglu and fuck Pathetici

 

[Robee]

Not a fan but what Calha does bring is threat from outside the box. It's something we've been lacking since Pogba and it makes it easy to defend against us.

 

[vodka]

If we could get goretzka though.. And they could throw in Lucas hernandez for good measure, he would have less competition here

 

[Bianconero81]

Goretzka

 

[Badass J Elkann]

He’s ready for the taking

How about we offer you bonucci and bernadeschi in exchange of NOT giving us boateng.

 

[Xperd]

 

[zizinho]

He’s ready for the taking

He's going to inter imo, if his wage demands aren't that high. Otherwise england

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Wait, u thought FFP is not a thing this summer?

 

[Boksic]

This plusvalenza mentality is exactly what we need to get away from.

He comes on a free BUT he will occupy an important position in the team. So either we'll have to look out for a replacement within a year if he flops or we will be stuck with him for a few years content with his average/satisfactory performances. It's the same thing with Rabiot. It was the same thing with Khedira. Same old mistake repeating itself.

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Besides we'll be really lucky to plusvalenza Ramsey. Given how little he has contributed, I'm thinking another contract termination beckons.

Completely agree.

We have become fixated on plusvalenza and it has led to numerous bad decisions.

Cash is king, not accounting gains on sale.

If we focus on making good decisions, working in sensible budgets for salaries and transfers, where the justification for signings/sales is to improve the squad, then the accounting will take care of itself eventually.

We seem to be so clouded by plusvalenza.

 

[s4tch]

plusvalenza is essential for the operation of the club. we also dropped our "no minusvalenza" policy after beppe left.

juve always sold some of the club's best players, be it baggio, inzaghi, zidane, vieri, boksic or pogba. i don't think anyone rates selling pippo and zidane in exchange of nedved, buffon and thuram as a bad move. it's not the plusvalenza which is harmful, it's the bad recruiting decisions (aka "replacements"), and the huge, inexplicable wage bill.

 

[jukazem]

plusvalenza is essential for the operation of the club. we also dropped our "no minusvalenza" policy after beppe left.

It isn't essential. It's deceiving and backending all the problems. The only good thing probably is that as a director you won't get the blame if you're out of the system by the time the problems show up.

 

[s4tch]

It isn't essential. It's deceiving and backending all the problems.

how isn't it essential for a club in juve's situation and result oriented operation? selling players is still the easiest way to improve your revenue, and your revenue is still the easiest way to be able to afford better players.

we could have managed the last 9 years without plusvalenza. and we would have lost the title years ago.

the worst thing about it is that tici is unable to spend it wisely. he's not even out of the door and the problems are already showing up. the problem is not plusvalenza itself, it's the club's inability to find adequate replacements for less money.

 

[ilmetronome]

Looking for plusvalenza is unavoidable now.
"The project", some bad decision, and covid have took us to bad financial situation.

FFP monitoring isn't suspended. It just got some relaxed policy.
The other teams got net loss too last season. But they have advantage because they have already got net profit/little net loss consecutively before covid.