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KB824

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Out of the Marotta lovers, you are the only one who speaks some sense. Sergio too but I don't consider Sergio a Marotta lover like the others.
I support his work for the past 5 years when looked at in its entirety. I love the direction towards younger players, the attention paid to international scouting and acquiring young talents from all across the peninsula, and up until the season, I could fully understand the need for staying within a financial budget. But a combination of things have happened over the summer which led me to believe that they would go above their normal spending habits.

#1) Obviously, the influx of revenue from the Champions League. I certainly didn't expect them to spend all of that money, as there is still money owed to Exor and to finish covering the costs of the stadium.

#2) Financial Fair Play. This team is so in line with what they are looking for, that in all likelihood they could have dragged a toe or two over the line, and not be in any sort of trouble. Especially considering that FFP have actaully relaxes some of their restrictions for this year. If other teams can take advantage of it, then so can Juve.


For the past 4 seasons, this club has had to drag Serie A out of the 19th century and start bringing some sort of relevance and respect to this league. Now, other teams are following suit, which is great, because more prestige = better players coming to the league = more attention and interest = more revenue for everyone. But they not only now have to stay ahead of the curve to the rest of the league, but they must maintain a level of success in the Champions League to keep their own coffers filled.
 

JCK

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I never said I wanted him all I said is I'd wait for his performances to pass judgment.
Exactly, you are even willing to give a washed up player that never showed anything significant in his career a chance only because the management that you wholeheartedly trust brought him.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Juventino[RUS];5054418 said:
Conte needed winger, Allegri needs AM, the same story all over again :sergio:
difference is Allegri is more of a 'yes' man and nodding dog, Conte was more "it is my way or the highway" probably another reason why we hired him rather than say a Bielsa or someone who makes demands of the board
 
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difference is Allegri is more of a 'yes' man and nodding dog, Conte was more "it is my way or the highway" probably another reason why we hired him rather than say a Bielsa or someone who makes demands of the board
we have the same stories - Conte was "nobody" when he came, won titles and became a stubborn moron who thought that he should have the same authority that Ferguson had in MU, now it's Allegri's turn to repeat Conte's path,
 

KB824

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I know everyone wants a creative AM (doesn't everyone want a creative AM all the time?), but do we really need one? I mean, we did pretty well without one last year.
I think we did well last year, all things considered, because the rest of Serie A, with the exception of Roma, were still lagging behind Juve. I truly think it is a different story this year and going forward. While I love the fact that Serie A clubs are spending and doing whatever it takes to compete, that is a double edged sword as far as we are concerned. We have to stay two steps ahead of everyone else.

But the fact remains that no other club in Italy lost as much on and off the pitch as Juve have this season. And yes, I know that Dybala has the potential to be a special, special player, and that Morata will most likely improve upon last year, and that mandzukic brings that grit and grind combined with skill that every team clamors for.

However, to me, there is still a disconnect between the midfield and attack. Last year that was compensated with Tevez running all over the place and playing very deep for us. With Tevez you had a known entity in regards to what he brings this club. We still don't know yet what Dybala can bring us. That is why I feel that we do in fact need that attacking AM to assist Dybala in that aspect.


And I'm not the type who wants an AM so that we can "Send a message to the rest of Serie A and Europe". No, I want one because I really think that we need one in order to win. Fuck image, I want to win.

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difference is Allegri is more of a 'yes' man and nodding dog, Conte was more "it is my way or the highway" probably another reason why we hired him rather than say a Bielsa or someone who makes demands of the board
I don't think that is the case at all, Andy. I think that Allegri is simply more subtle in his approach.
 

Seven

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I think we did well last year, all things considered, because the rest of Serie A, with the exception of Roma, were still lagging behind Juve. I truly think it is a different story this year and going forward. While I love the fact that Serie A clubs are spending and doing whatever it takes to compete, that is a double edged sword as far as we are concerned. We have to stay two steps ahead of everyone else.

But the fact remains that no other club in Italy lost as much on and off the pitch as Juve have this season. And yes, I know that Dybala has the potential to be a special, special player, and that Morata will most likely improve upon last year, and that mandzukic brings that grit and grind combined with skill that every team clamors for.

However, to me, there is still a disconnect between the midfield and attack. Last year that was compensated with Tevez running all over the place and playing very deep for us. With Tevez you had a known entity in regards to what he brings this club. We still don't know yet what Dybala can bring us. That is why I feel that we do in fact need that attacking AM to assist Dybala in that aspect.


And I'm not the type who wants an AM so that we can "Send a message to the rest of Serie A and Europe". No, I want one because I really think that we need one in order to win. Fuck image, I want to win.
I understand your point, but true AM's are hard to come by, expensive and rarely used these days. What I think we need is a creative allround midfielder or a playmaker like Pirlo. Obviously Verratti comes to mind.. IMO that would be the dream. Unfortunately there's no dealing with PSG, because they'll insist on Pogba in exchange.
 

Badass J Elkann

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Juventino[RUS];5054426 said:
we have the same stories - Conte was "nobody" when he came, won titles and became a stubborn moron who thought that he should have the same authority that Ferguson had in MU, now it's Allegri's turn to repeat Conte's path
In fairness to Conte considering his success at the club he had every right to make requests, Allegri won't leave unless he is forced out, unfortunately for him it is almost like a repeat of his milan days
 

KB824

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I understand your point, but true AM's are hard to come by, expensive and rarely used these days. What I think we need is a creative allround midfielder or a playmaker like Pirlo. Obviously Verratti comes to mind.. IMO that would be the dream. Unfortunately there's no dealing with PSG, because they'll insist on Pogba in exchange.
Rarely used for those who don't use a 4-3-1-2 as their formation of choice. But Allegri does, and therefore I think we really need one. And whilst I agree that they are expensive (2nd only to strikers), this shouldn't be a newsflash to management and more importantly, the board, as they dictate the parameters in whcih we can spend.
 
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