Summer mercato 2015 (49 Viewers)

[AOD4]

Juventus crash the Napoli-Milan battle for Sampdoria's Roberto Soriano, forwarding an offer of €15m.

The Partenopei and the Rossoneri were thought to be at each other's necks to get to the Doria midfielder, but it seems a new contender is now in pole.

According to Il Mattino, Juventus have notified President Massimo Ferrero that they'd be willing to offer €15m for Soriano.

The sum substantially exceeds the €10m clause that would have to be settled to rescind Soriano's contract, and possibly exceeds the amount that Napoli and Milan may be willing to offer.

 

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[Badass J Elkann]

why

He would flop for a few reasons and this opinion is shared amongst some Spurs fans I know too.

Firstly his attitude after losing possession is really poor, never works or helps to win the ball back. I have heard of instances where he would throw his arms around in frustration

Secondly - More often than most Eriksen's decision making can be quite poor which can lead in a break down in attack, he is often criticised for trying to thread the 'hard' passes to the attackers even if there are more obvious and easier passes on, where as Lamela tends to be preferred by some fans as he does the easy passes and effectively too. There for I don't think he has the tactical intelligence to cope or adapt to the Italian league.

Personally I think he would be better off moving to the spanish league I really don't think Eriksen is as good as some make him out to be, as crazy as it sounds I'd be happier with Lamela

 

[LiquidPLP]

I don't think we'll sign an AM if a good one ain't available imo.

Looks like it. Especially if Sandro is available. At the moment I bet we'll go for Sandro + Soriano and close the mercato.

 

[Tak!]

I believe they have clear ideas, and let's assume that they have. Having clear ideas does not always mean converting them. This is certainly something they are aware of since they look to make most of the arrivals come early when the market is less uncertain. On the plus side such players can then join our preseason from the beginning, but that's a different thing.
Anyway I believe they have a clear idea of what and obviously they've had the eyes on a number of player fitting into the characteristics they are looking for. However, we can't splash the same amount as everyone else and I am so grateful that the management seem to have scouted their signings very well. Either way I feel like the management knows exactly what they want but right now are having some issues of converting those ideas to reality. I have no worries that it will resolve.
Finally, even clear ideas change over time, they have to. You can't apply a static view and expect things to follow exactly as you want it to. Clear idea to me in this context is a notion of characters you want to bring in with certain qualities and then having a "list" of alternatives, but perhaps you gradually learn something else and have to modify the qualities you are looking for and consequently the "list" of alternatives. This seems to be what is going now and that sends me the message of a sound management that follows beliefs and the market and not some stubbornness.
Sorry for long post...

 

[AOD4]

So we are after a LB, an AM and there new reports linking us to a CM as well. Given the limitation to the budget , do you prefer one WC player with 2 mediocre signings , or 3 average/potentials signings

 

[Bjerknes]

They fail to execute on their ideas. If it's Sandro plus Soriano then this mercato is a massive failure,

 

[Badass J Elkann]

So we are after a LB, an AM and there new reports linking us to a CM as well. Given the limitation to the budget , do you prefer one WC player with 2 mediocre signings , or 3 average/potentials signings

Our budget really shouldn't be THAT limited

 

[BIG DADDY!!!]

Always?

Yes always.

Selling Diego and struggling to find a replacement in the dying hours of the Mercato getting rejected by everybody.

Rarely getting our top targets and always having to settle for the plan B

Always having agreed everything with the player then never meeting their clubs valuations. This happens every year(Aguero, Higuain, Van Persie, Sanchez and now Draxler)

Selling Vidal without having a replacement ready.

Saying we're looking an AM then saying we're just after any player with no unique characteristics.

Talking about adding cherries to a cake or adding a plasma to a house or whatever that analogy was then making enquiries about the likes of Ramires.

If we keep on winning then im fine with it but if you say you have "clear ideas" then make them happen.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

Yes always.

Selling Diego and struggling to find a replacement in the dying hours of the Mercato getting rejected by everybody.

Rarely getting our top targets and always having to settle for the plan B

Always having agreed everything with the player then never meeting their clubs valuations. This happens every year(Aguero, Higuain, Van Persie, Sanchez and now Draxler)

Selling Vidal without having a replacement ready.

Saying we're looking an AM then saying we're just after any player with no unique characteristics.

Talking about adding cherries to a cake or adding a plasma to a house or whatever that analogy was then making enquiries about the likes of Ramires.

If we keep on winning then im fine with it but if you say you have "clear ideas" then make them happen.

 

[baggio]

I think that Marotta & co have clear ideas of what this club needs, but those ideas often differ from what fans expect and media seem to be fueling those expectations. When inevitable happens people feel robbed of WC signing. Ridiculous.I said while back people that expected Gotze have only themselves to blame.

Incidentally, it was Marrotta, who made a mention of Goetze himself. And if the management do have clear ideas about what they intend to do, you'd imagine a Soriano level player would've been signed by now.

They fail to execute on their ideas. If it's Sandro plus Soriano then this mercato is a massive failure,

A disgusting one at that.

 

[Valerio.]

They fail to execute on their ideas. If it's Sandro plus Soriano then this mercato is a massive failure,

Picking Sandro over Siqueira would be at least an improvement. Imagine if it's Siqueira+Soriano. Oh god this awful.

 

[Bianconero81]

Truth to be told we didnt have one last year either and look how that finished.

I simply dont care which players we bring as long as we reach objectives come the end of season. We can as well bring Diamanti (your all time favorite ), but if this guy gets the job done, he'll be good signing in my books. Let's leave this to more competent persons, shall we? Our lord and savior rarely failed us till now.

I don't doubt the management, but I have my concerns/fears/reservations @Bianconero_Aus

We definitely need an AM as Allegri stated himself. Having sold Vidal, and having almost a month and a half (since mid July) to acquire one, it would be a failure on management's part if they somehow don't manage to secure a reliable/quality AM.

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They fail to execute on their ideas. If it's Sandro plus Soriano then this mercato is a massive failure,

To a certain extent

 

[KB824]

An attacking midfielder is a must. No two ways about it.

Sometimes you simply HAVE to pay above market to get the player that you want. This formula that they have of getting players on their own terms, by and large has worked out very well. I mean 90 minutes away from a treble, the only thing better than that is actually winning it.

But you can't maintain that policy forever. If all of us, as regular fans, were keen on what Juve received during this last season alone, you can be doubly sure that other clubs out there know that as well.

I'm not saying to go crazy on the finances, but be more flexible.

 

[kao_ray]

Yes always.

Selling Diego and struggling to find a replacement in the dying hours of the Mercato getting rejected by everybody.

Rarely getting our top targets and always having to settle for the plan B

Always having agreed everything with the player then never meeting their clubs valuations. This happens every year(Aguero, Higuain, Van Persie, Sanchez and now Draxler)

Selling Vidal without having a replacement ready.

Saying we're looking an AM then saying we're just after any player with no unique characteristics.

Talking about adding cherries to a cake or adding a plasma to a house or whatever that analogy was then making enquiries about the likes of Ramires.

If we keep on winning then im fine with it but if you say you have "clear ideas" then make them happen.

We can't compete with oil clubs. We can't have every player that we want. We managed to get some awesome players through the years. You simply look at all the "failures" and not the achievements. Be unhappy, but from time to time have a reality check and see all the positive things about the club.

Even if we get Gotze, Isco, Draxler - are there any guarantees that they won't flop hard? We can measure the transfers we made by the end of the season. If we fail to get a big name AM, but manage to get CL, will you be unhappy, because you didn't get the expensive toy you wanted so much?

 

[JCK]

An attacking midfielder is a must. No two ways about it.

Sometimes you simply HAVE to pay above market to get the player that you want. This formula that they have of getting players on their own terms, by and large has worked out very well. I mean 90 minutes away from a treble, the only thing better than that is actually winning it.

But you can't maintain that policy forever. If all of us, as regular fans, were keen on what Juve received during this last season alone, you can be doubly sure that other clubs out there know that as well.

I'm not saying to go crazy on the finances, but be more flexible.

Do you see why the majority are complaining now? They said AM at first and now they are looking at a midfielder without any specific characteristics. There is no way that anyone can convince me that they are not in a desperate moment and it's quite obvious that they put themselves in this situation.

 

[BIG DADDY!!!]

]We can't compete with oil clubs. We can't have every player that we want[/B]. We managed to get some awesome players through the years. You simply look at all the "failures" and not the achievements. Be unhappy, but from time to time have a reality check and see all the positive things about the club.

Even if we get Gotze, Isco, Draxler - are there any guarantees that they won't flop hard? We can measure the transfers we made by the end of the season. If we fail to get a big name AM, but manage to get CL, will you be unhappy, because you didn't get the expensive toy you wanted so much?

And I know that.

I also know that Juve don't buy superstars and that we make them and thats part of the reason why I love this club so much but if we can't drop 40m plus on a player we really need then don't mention said player in interviews or even make inquires about the player in the first place as it only raises fans expectations and we deserve better than that.

 

[Kopanja]

And I know that.

I also know that Juve don't buy superstars and that we make them and thats part of the reason why I love this club so much but if we can't drop 40m plus on a player we really need then don't mention said player in interviews or even make inquires about the player in the first place as it only raises fans expectations and we deserve better than that.

+1
As I see situation now: Gotze decided to rot on the bench in Bayern, and we can't do nothing about it. But in Draxler case that Heldt motherfucker just trashed Beppe, I hope that the whole situation is not over yet and we will make another shot.

 

[kao_ray]

And I know that.

I also know that Juve don't buy superstars and that we make them and thats part of the reason why I love this club so much but if we can't drop 40m plus on a player we really need then don't mention said player in interviews or even make inquires about the player in the first place as it only raises fans expectations and we deserve better than that.

What if the media is bullshiitting for Draxler's fee and Schalke are actually asking for 45-50 ml euro or even more?

 

[KB824]

Do you see why the majority are complaining now? They said AM at first and now they are looking at a midfielder without any specific characteristics. There is no way that anyone can convince me that they are not in a desperate moment and it's quite obvious that they put themselves in this situation.

From the first minute I heard about the initial Draxler offer, I thought that was a cruel joke.

I was fine with everything up until the Vidal sale, and even then, I was still cool with it because I honestly believed that those funds would be used towards getting an AM and a LB. Now, a month has gone by, and nothing.

I just prefer to look at it from a distance, but if the season started today, I would not be very happy.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

An attacking midfielder is a must. No two ways about it.

Sometimes you simply HAVE to pay above market to get the player that you want. This formula that they have of getting players on their own terms, by and large has worked out very well. I mean 90 minutes away from a treble, the only thing better than that is actually winning it.

But you can't maintain that policy forever. If all of us, as regular fans, were keen on what Juve received during this last season alone, you can be doubly sure that other clubs out there know that as well.

I'm not saying to go crazy on the finances, but be more flexible.

Agreed. But all i'm reading is how we should be calm, we haven't regressed, praise beppe etc... I don't know how any Juve fan can not be at the slightest bit concerned right now. How many times did we look at the numbers and finances and think we should be able to conduct a decent mercato from that, not forgetting the funds released from losing 3 top earners and the sales, it just doesn't add up how we can still go about conducting our business as if we are tight. As you said if you want the player sometimes we have to pay that bit more and be more flexible financially. I just simply don't buy the fact we have no money that doesn't sit with me, I'm not saying we are filthy rich neither but at least enough to buy the required players and not just some mediocre Italian