Summer mercato 2015 (56 Viewers)

[Osman]

this year or next year?

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yeah im not denying he is a great player. i simply said Arda is better and would suit this team better. now people said they would take Arda because he isnt an true AM, despite the fact that he can play there, but would still take Isco who didnt play AM at all last season. thats the only reason i brought that up.

and there is no way Isco is available, while Arda indeed is, for a good price too (40M)

The only thing you can say is that Isco isnt available and Arda is. Arda isnt better, he is a better winger, but not better player, the opposite. And Isco can be a play as creative CM in a trio or a winger that cuts in alot, but just because Real uses him as such doesnt mean he isnt a true AM, and fits perfectly to sign him for his natural role. He functions and attacks centrally at all times, wether its as CM or fake winger who has this hot spot zone just shy off central left outside the box to cut in and finish (all his goals are in Del Piero zone basically, difference is he tends to shoot low instead of high).

Arda is very good, but he is not central AM, he is a winger who excells at dribbling and crossing, he can play both wings and likes to cut in at times, but he is neither natural central attacking player nor a true playmaker for us to sign him as a trequartista.

 

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[zizinho]

I agree that we shouldnt sell Pogba, i was talking about a scenario if that happens.

I dont agree that Isco and Verrati wont like to come here, especially Verrati. The money will be a problem though, i agree that 100m would be enough for both.

I heard Verratti would walk to Barcelona/Madrid if Real/Barca called. i think he will end up there if he leaves PSG, who wont let him leave so easilly

 

[Zacheryah]

If it means we will get Isco, that would be tempting.

Only Isco.

Isco will spit on the contract offer and stay at real.


Its offcourse Oscar we look at. And is costing quite a bit.

 

[Osman]

we got Morata to convince him if there is a bidding war!!

Man,Isco behind Morata and Mandzu!!!! Faptastic

Firstly we have zero chance in bidding war Secondly Real arent foolish enough to sell him, if there is 3 players they can consider their future, its James, Varane and Isco. Latter doesnt get enough playing time, but he is very much the darling of Real fans and they will do their outmost to not alienate this gem, at worst will loan him out. Plus last thing he will want to do is leave right now IMO.


But yeah it would be faptastic Except Dybala starts over Mandzukic

 

[zizinho]

The only thing you can say is that Isco isnt available and Arda is. Arda isnt better, he is a better winger, but not better player, the opposite. And Isco can be a play as creative CM in a trio or a winger that cuts in alot, but just because Real uses him as such doesnt mean he isnt a true AM, and fits perfectly to sign him for his natural role. He functions and attacks centrally at all times, wether its as CM or fake winger who has this hot spot zone just shy off central left outside the box to cut in and finish (all his goals are in Del Piero zone basically, difference is he tends to shoot low instead of high).

Arda is very good, but he is not central AM, he is a winger who excells at dribbling and crossing, he can play both wings and likes to cut in at times, but he is neither natural central attacking player nor a true playmaker for us to sign him as a trequartista.

you described Iscos role and playing style nicely, but all that doesent make him better than Arda, who is infact the better of the 2. he is a key player for a La Liga winner and CL finalist that isnt nearly as offensive as Barca/Real. the offensive part relies almost entirely on him and Koke. Isco plays for a different team, James, Modric, Kroos are all playmakers so they dont depend on Isco and his ability to create chances. put him into a team that requires of him to be the main creative source in the team and see how he does. then we can talk. you cant simply compare the role of these two and the importance of each for their teams. and Arda is very well capable of being a playmaker for a team like us. his passing, dribbling, crossing and the chances he create speak for itself. and the guy has grinta. put him in that trequartista place for us and see him work his magic

 

[blondu]

real did sold their forward wonderkid to us..they can do it again and not now..in 2 years. i'm sure real won't win anything with that waiter in charge. that would mean more overpayed superstars.

 

[mondo1]

I agree that we shouldnt sell Pogba, i was talking about a scenario if that happens.

I dont agree that Isco and Verrati wont like to come here, especially Verrati. The money will be a problem though, i agree that 100m would not be enough for both.

true those 2 would make up for losing pogba. the thing about verrati and isco is, if they would be available, plenty of teams would want to sign them and offer them sky high wages. veratti maybe a juve fan but he also said he has no intention to leave

 

[zizinho]

real did sold their forward wonderkid to us..they can do it again and not now..in 2 years. i'm sure real won't win anything with that waiter in charge. that would mean more overpayed superstars.

Real sold us Morata with a buyback. he was a bench option for them and didnt play much. thats a great deal for them, as they can buy him back if he turns out good for a good price (30M), thats 1st. and 2nd, Isco is a starter for them. cant compare his situation with Morata

 

[Zacheryah]

Isco will refuse to come here. Verratti starts at a richer club.

 

[Cheesio]

Isco will refuse to come here. Verratti starts at a richer club.

Yet you think Oscar would come here.

 

[Osman]

you described Iscos role and playing style nicely, but all that doesent make him better than Arda, who is infact the better of the 2. he is a key player for a La Liga winner and CL finalist that isnt nearly as offensive as Barca/Real. the offensive part relies almost entirely on him and Koke. Isco plays for a different team, James, Modric, Kroos are all playmakers so they dont depend on Isco and his ability to create chances. put him into a team that requires of him to be the main creative source in the team and see how he does. then we can talk. you cant simply compare the role of these two and the importance of each for their teams. and Arda is very well capable of being a playmaker for a team like us. his passing, dribbling, crossing and the chances he create speak for itself. and the guy has grinta. put him in that trequartista place for us and see him work his magic

But Arda is NOT central AM, he is a winger, why is this hard to get. And Isco would be a key player if he was playing for Atletico too (as he was for Malaga), in fact he would easily become their star player if he was there, alot of hardworkers and a prima playmaker to take care of things (he is better then Koke). Real is stacked, thats why Isco plays CM, Arda if he was there is a very likely chance in Real would get the Jese treatment, barely play because he would have superstars ahead of him in the wing, plus James would probably be chosen before him as RW probably.

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real did sold their forward wonderkid to us..they can do it again and not now..in 2 years. i'm sure real won't win anything with that waiter in charge. that would mean more overpayed superstars.

Morata was a nobody and a novice who they didnt have room for and who demanded to leave for minutes (who they still insured possibility to take back with the clause). Isco is the golden boy of Spain (infact won the Europe golden boy award 2 years ago) and they signed him for 40m, they wont get rid of him any time soon (prefer him to leave in general). Plus he is not someone who is looking to leave either, prefers to fight it out and make a claim for his future there.

 

[JuveJay]

@zizinho

 

[Zacheryah]

Yet you think Oscar would come here.

Oscar has no real incentive against moving, and Chelsea could be tempted with a sale if the cash is there

Isco doesnt want to leave, and Verratti is key for PSG

 

[JuveJay]

What about Lucas Piazon, is he available?

 

[Mark]

 

[Badass J Elkann]

piazon look how he turned out

 

[mondo1]

piazon look how he turned out

is he back with chelsea or is he staying at frankfurt?

 

[Osman]

@zizinho

Tell me about it

 

[Fr3sh]

@zizinho

 

[KB824]

There was an article on Bleacher Report (For what that is worth) stating that Juve will hold talks for Kovacic

http://forzaitalianfootball.com/201...-midfielder-after-liverpool-talks-broke-down/