am with Stankovic at juve, he is cheap good and avilable and could play anywhere in MF
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First, I didn't give any false Info. Anybody knows Canna transfer details, I think. 10m for Canna, 4 yeas ago, was nothing in compare to the price we wanna pay for this Stankovic today.
And, It was Stankovic who snubbed Juve in favor of Inter and this is why I say we should not go for him. I clearly remember he said he prefer Inter to Juve! He dosen't like Juve and we all know it for many years, the way he plays against us these years clearly shows it. You just forgot soon!
As I said before, please don't compare these transfers with Moggi's, cause it is funny! I mention Moggi because he was best in business althought I know he made few mistakes but in general he was best in 15 years!
Calciopoli was only the revenge that Milans clubs get from Angeli family after Umberto and Gianni passed away.
These last 2 year, refrees favored Inter more than Juve in 5 years but nobody talk about it. Or why nobody talk about Berlusconi's presidental power that he use in favor of Milan or his Meida's power?
After what refrees did last year to Juve, now everybody understands what Calcipoli realy was!
And, It was Stankovic who snubbed Juve in favor of Inter and this is why I say we should not go for him. I clearly remember he said he prefer Inter to Juve! He dosen't like Juve and we all know it for many years, the way he plays against us these years clearly shows it. You just forgot soon!
As I said before, please don't compare these transfers with Moggi's, cause it is funny! I mention Moggi because he was best in business althought I know he made few mistakes but in general he was best in 15 years!
Calciopoli was only the revenge that Milans clubs get from Angeli family after Umberto and Gianni passed away.
These last 2 year, refrees favored Inter more than Juve in 5 years but nobody talk about it. Or why nobody talk about Berlusconi's presidental power that he use in favor of Milan or his Meida's power?
After what refrees did last year to Juve, now everybody understands what Calcipoli realy was!
NO he did not. I was just bullshit from fans who wanted to hate on him. He said Liverpool is a big club and he wants to stay with them, like any player playing for them should say when they want to stay and eager to prove themselves. Oversensitive bozos who just wanted to flame him misread that to ten times worse intepretstion.
Dont care what Stanko said, because I am mainly against him because of how bad he has become, but he DID insult Juve directly while he was at Inter, several times calling us this or that infavourable remarks. Waaaaaaaay different to whatever Momo was imagined to have said.
Dont care what Stanko said, because I am mainly against him because of how bad he has become, but he DID insult Juve directly while he was at Inter, several times calling us this or that infavourable remarks. Waaaaaaaay different to whatever Momo was imagined to have said.
and a contract of 3m €/year till 2012.
You're wrong again.
From 2000 until 2002 the transfer market went crazy. Teams were paying X3 times the fair price of the players.
That's the period when all the transfer records were broken. Crespo was sold for 50m eur, Zidane for almost 70m, Rio Ferdinand 45m, Mendieta 43m, Veron for 37m, Buffon, Nedved, Thuram, Rui Costa for +30/40m. Even one Nakata was sold to Parma for 27m euro.
But then the market colapsed. Some teams went bankrupt while the bigger teams stopped paying crazy ammounts.
We bought Cannavaro in 2004. The transfer market was normal again in 2004. Actually, there is absolutely no difference in market prices from 2004 and 2008.
Cannavaro was a 31 yo defender who had great seasons in Parma but he was a flop in Inter. For two years he's been really bad and everyone thought he's washed up and it was normal to watch him as an ex-player.
What Juve payed for Cannavaro back then wasn't a steal. We payed his fair price. I read some old posts where Inter fans were actually pleased they got rid of the flop and even earned money and a back up keeper.
For a 31 yo ddefender who had 2 bad seasons 10m eur+Carini was rather expensive.
Moggi took the risk and he won at the end. But only because Canna played great for Juve we think that it was the steal of the century. At the time when we bought Cannavaro it didn't look like a steal at all.
Stankovic is a year younger than Canna was in 2004 and unlike Cannavaro who had 2 bad seasons behind him when we bought him, Stankovic has only 1 bad season.
Actually, the Cannavaro situation can be compared to Zambrotta's situation now.
Zambrotta is 31, he was great in the past and he had 2 very bad season with Barcelona after that.
If Milan payed 10m eur+player to buy Zambro from Barca, would you think that it was a steal and a great deal ?
If he plays great for Milan then you'll think so, but atm i'm sure you don't see it as a steal of the century.
From 2000 until 2002 the transfer market went crazy. Teams were paying X3 times the fair price of the players.
That's the period when all the transfer records were broken. Crespo was sold for 50m eur, Zidane for almost 70m, Rio Ferdinand 45m, Mendieta 43m, Veron for 37m, Buffon, Nedved, Thuram, Rui Costa for +30/40m. Even one Nakata was sold to Parma for 27m euro.
But then the market colapsed. Some teams went bankrupt while the bigger teams stopped paying crazy ammounts.
We bought Cannavaro in 2004. The transfer market was normal again in 2004. Actually, there is absolutely no difference in market prices from 2004 and 2008.
Cannavaro was a 31 yo defender who had great seasons in Parma but he was a flop in Inter. For two years he's been really bad and everyone thought he's washed up and it was normal to watch him as an ex-player.
What Juve payed for Cannavaro back then wasn't a steal. We payed his fair price. I read some old posts where Inter fans were actually pleased they got rid of the flop and even earned money and a back up keeper.
For a 31 yo ddefender who had 2 bad seasons 10m eur+Carini was rather expensive.
Moggi took the risk and he won at the end. But only because Canna played great for Juve we think that it was the steal of the century. At the time when we bought Cannavaro it didn't look like a steal at all.
Stankovic is a year younger than Canna was in 2004 and unlike Cannavaro who had 2 bad seasons behind him when we bought him, Stankovic has only 1 bad season.
Actually, the Cannavaro situation can be compared to Zambrotta's situation now.
Zambrotta is 31, he was great in the past and he had 2 very bad season with Barcelona after that.
If Milan payed 10m eur+player to buy Zambro from Barca, would you think that it was a steal and a great deal ?
If he plays great for Milan then you'll think so, but atm i'm sure you don't see it as a steal of the century.
Are you saying that 10M four years ago were much less than 9M nowadays? 
Tell me more about Vieira, Kapo, Olivera and previously Esnaider, Salas, Paramatti and a huge list that will never end.
Tell me more about Vieira, Kapo, Olivera and previously Esnaider, Salas, Paramatti and a huge list that will never end.
And you also tell me more about Del Piero, Buffon, Nedved, Camoranesi, Cannavaro, Trezeguet, Davids, Zidane, Inzaghi, Tacchinardi, Thuram, Conte, Ferrara, Baggio, Deschamps, Pessoto, Di Vaio, Mutu, Zambrotta, Ibrahimovic, Emerson, Vieira, Van der Sar, Peruzzi, Kohler, Jugovic, R. Baggio, D. Baggio, Tudor .... real never ending list!
Ok 
And i think you misundersood Jack.
No-one's saying that Moggi was a bad transfer guru. We're not idiots to say so. The man knew how to create a great team.
But you made it sound as if he didn't make any mistakes and how Moggi would never buy Stankovic because that would be a mistake.
JCK simply reminded you that Moggi was also human and he made mistakes.
It's another question if Stankovic will be a mistake. Only the future will give an answer on this. We can debate it here and convince one another but it's useless 'cause we can not give the final judgement until Stankovic plays at least half a season with Juve.
And i think you misundersood Jack.
No-one's saying that Moggi was a bad transfer guru. We're not idiots to say so. The man knew how to create a great team.
But you made it sound as if he didn't make any mistakes and how Moggi would never buy Stankovic because that would be a mistake.
JCK simply reminded you that Moggi was also human and he made mistakes.
It's another question if Stankovic will be a mistake. Only the future will give an answer on this. We can debate it here and convince one another but it's useless 'cause we can not give the final judgement until Stankovic plays at least half a season with Juve.
That list is neverending because you mention Baggio like 10 times.
Baggio who Moggi had no hand in buying.
Actually, Kohler, Dino Baggio, Conte, Del Piero, Peruzzi Moggi had NO hand in buying. Because they were all signed before 94, when Moggi came. Actually Ferrara and Deschamps came around 94, so not sure if they were done deals already when he came, or he signed them (Likely he signed Ferrara because he was boss in Napoli while Ferrara was there).
And you are just namedropping btw, without considering wether or not they are good deals at all. I liked Di Vaio, but how was he a good deal? Way overpriced and was decent, but not good enough. You have hardly analysed several of those deals.
And Moggi was good in deals, but you know the list of flops is pretty much aslong as the one you mentionned? You have to acknowledge the mistakes with the great stuff, if you want to make a clear picture.
Baggio who Moggi had no hand in buying.
Actually, Kohler, Dino Baggio, Conte, Del Piero, Peruzzi Moggi had NO hand in buying. Because they were all signed before 94, when Moggi came. Actually Ferrara and Deschamps came around 94, so not sure if they were done deals already when he came, or he signed them (Likely he signed Ferrara because he was boss in Napoli while Ferrara was there).
And you are just namedropping btw, without considering wether or not they are good deals at all. I liked Di Vaio, but how was he a good deal? Way overpriced and was decent, but not good enough. You have hardly analysed several of those deals.
And Moggi was good in deals, but you know the list of flops is pretty much aslong as the one you mentionned? You have to acknowledge the mistakes with the great stuff, if you want to make a clear picture.
That's true, but my point was that it's not a good enough reason not to sign a player. I don't like him much either but as long as he arrives and plays with 110%, I won't really care what he said in the past. Truth is he will add depth and experience, something we will need in the CL. Of course, just signing him alone would not be enough, but that's another story.
He might come..but he'll never be a juventino..and as for me, im not supporting that piece of shit!
Sissoko never insulted juve..he just claimed his club is big, which isnt an insult, but stankovic said "We dont steal" when we has celebrating the scudetto..and ofcourse also commented through his agent earlier that he didnt want to leave inter and specially not to juve the bitter rivals.
Its ok to love his shitty club, but insult mine? ill shove my foot so far up his serbian ass!
Sissoko never insulted juve..he just claimed his club is big, which isnt an insult, but stankovic said "We dont steal" when we has celebrating the scudetto..and ofcourse also commented through his agent earlier that he didnt want to leave inter and specially not to juve the bitter rivals.
Its ok to love his shitty club, but insult mine? ill shove my foot so far up his serbian ass!
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