For first Year, Yes! He was a success! at that time he was the best in Europe in his role.
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Here it is said he earned 3,5 m last season and I've read somewhere that he agreed to have a paycut to about 3 m if he comes to Juve. These are rather reasonable wages.
Here it is said he earned 3,5 m last season and I've read somewhere that he agreed to have a paycut to about 3 m if he comes to Juve. These are rather reasonable wages.
Thanks for your reply mate but:
1. Secco himself said he regrets selling Mutu to Fiorentina and added that maybe Benitez also regrets selling Sissoko. You remember?
2. As a manager he should find and suggest better options to coach! Why in Lippi era, he didn't bring cheap players like him? cause we have very very much better managers who were not let these mistakes happen!
3. I'm not against him even right now! but with that amount of money still today we can buy players like Huntelaar or Van der Vart. Nobody spend that kind of money for a player like Almiron! this is why I dont say Tiago was a mistake!
4. We didn't try to keep him. Remember how Secoo stood against Camoranesi departure? Zambro said in those days that Juve didn't try to keep him like we did for Buffon, Alex, Nedved, Camo and Trez! Even we kept Zlatan till last moments but we didn't do anything for Zambro, who he was playing for Juve for 7 years and was Azzuri regular player! Greatest Mistake!
5. Thank You.
6. Giovncio have said many times that he likes to play in Juve alongside his hero Alex. He is our youth product! And don't forget that we suggest him to Lazio last year! and Secco only bring him out from Amuari deal because of Fans was against him!
7. About Stankovic, Juve fans has spoke all over net! in all polls and forums it was like 95% of people is agains him and also don't forget his words against Juve through this years! He turned down Juve in 2003! and he said some bad words agains juve 3-4 times. About Burdisso, all sites was reported that we were close to sign him! don't You follow news? everyone knows it and with God's help, the deal stalled somehow!
8. Also remember the game this managers played about renewing Trez contract? Milito? We paid something near that money for Andrade! and about Frings, I'm sure if Moggi was still in the post, he would close the deal in one day! and many better players we could sign last summer!
and in the end, I remembered three more mistakes by Secoo:
9. He also wanted to sell Cristico permanently to Genoa!
10. His lack of respect for renewing Alex's contract who is best goal scorer this season and he is symbol of this club!
11. His lack of experience and class hurts Juventus pride and image with silly moves.
by the way, I do think Secco is not a proper person for the Job at all!
1. Secco himself said he regrets selling Mutu to Fiorentina and added that maybe Benitez also regrets selling Sissoko. You remember?
2. As a manager he should find and suggest better options to coach! Why in Lippi era, he didn't bring cheap players like him? cause we have very very much better managers who were not let these mistakes happen!
3. I'm not against him even right now! but with that amount of money still today we can buy players like Huntelaar or Van der Vart. Nobody spend that kind of money for a player like Almiron! this is why I dont say Tiago was a mistake!
4. We didn't try to keep him. Remember how Secoo stood against Camoranesi departure? Zambro said in those days that Juve didn't try to keep him like we did for Buffon, Alex, Nedved, Camo and Trez! Even we kept Zlatan till last moments but we didn't do anything for Zambro, who he was playing for Juve for 7 years and was Azzuri regular player! Greatest Mistake!
5. Thank You.
6. Giovncio have said many times that he likes to play in Juve alongside his hero Alex. He is our youth product! And don't forget that we suggest him to Lazio last year! and Secco only bring him out from Amuari deal because of Fans was against him!
7. About Stankovic, Juve fans has spoke all over net! in all polls and forums it was like 95% of people is agains him and also don't forget his words against Juve through this years! He turned down Juve in 2003! and he said some bad words agains juve 3-4 times. About Burdisso, all sites was reported that we were close to sign him! don't You follow news? everyone knows it and with God's help, the deal stalled somehow!
8. Also remember the game this managers played about renewing Trez contract? Milito? We paid something near that money for Andrade! and about Frings, I'm sure if Moggi was still in the post, he would close the deal in one day! and many better players we could sign last summer!
and in the end, I remembered three more mistakes by Secoo:
9. He also wanted to sell Cristico permanently to Genoa!
10. His lack of respect for renewing Alex's contract who is best goal scorer this season and he is symbol of this club!
11. His lack of experience and class hurts Juventus pride and image with silly moves.
by the way, I do think Secco is not a proper person for the Job at all!
I think you have too much faith in the accuracy of the press. I'm not convinced he ever really wanted Burdisso or that he wanted to sell Giovinco or Criscito.
I also don't think he did anything much wrong when re-negotiating players deals. He has to get Juve as good a deal as possible and I think the media exaggerated the problems between club and players.
As for Zambrotta, we couldn't afford to keep all our top players. Some had to leave.
Imo Stankovic deal could be nothing like Cannavaro coming as Cannavaro never rejected or slanted us like Stankovic, who I would consider such a hypocrite if he signed for Juve. As for SecCo, I really think they're in a much worse situation then pre-calciopoli directors were (not as much money and harder to get players to sign because we're supposedly cheaters). For Example Boumsong came to a serie b side, now try signing Mexes to serie b. Zambro was forced to leave as we needed money.
But in the end is it really wise for Secco and co. to listen to the fans? I doubt it.
I think Cronios
tup pointed this out somewhere before. Instead of building a winning side, they seem to be preoccupied with satisfying the fans.
I think Cronios
tup pointed this out somewhere before. Instead of building a winning side, they seem to be preoccupied with satisfying the fans.
Letting the fans (let me remind you that Badass Devil and similar to him are also fans) run the club is suicidal. Only in last year we would have lost Iaquinta and Sissoko if we listened to the fans.
The men running the team are there for a reason. They are directors because they know much better than the high school kid fans or the carpenters Juventini, the taxi drivers juventini and the unemployed 35 years old male virgins juventini.
Second, i understand those who don't want Stankovic because they think we don't need a player of such characteristics or because they think he's not good enough (i disagree with them though) but i'll never understand those who don't want him because he's an Inter player or because once he said something anti-Juve.
Cannavaro said much worse things when his goal vs Juve was disallowed in 2000.
In the heat of the moment, especially if you're emotive and passionate, you can lose your head and say everything but it's childish and retarded not to accept some player because he wore the shirt of our greatest rivals or because once he said something we didn't want to hear.
If Stankovic is so anti-juve, why would he like to play for Juve and accept a pay-cut ?
We're talking about a player who's the same age as Nedved was when he joined Juve. Stankovic is proven star. He won scudetti with Lazio and Inter, he knows his football and is a typical for Juve hard worker. He had a bad season and maybe he'll never be as good again as he used to be. But for the right price you'll hardly find a better sub for Camoranesi, that's a fact.
great post and +rep.
Finally someone speaking the truth. Fact is that there are persons who know a lot more about transfers and players than we do, and if the board decides that stankovic is the right choice, well then so be it. He could easily do the same carreer as zanetti, who came to us at the exact same age and who turned out to be one of our best (or 'better' at least) players.
At the beginning i thought his age would be a problem but i just checked and he's 29!! that's not too old for someone like stankovic, and i think he could go on for at least another 4 or 5 years.
The thing is that we'll get him for a cheap price with relatively low wages. Not wanting him because of the fact that he played for inter is childish indeed.
What i don't really understand is what position he plays exactly; isn't he more of a AM, or more on the left even? Isn't that the neddy/giovinco position? anyway, if the price is right, i say we should get him. If he's our alternative to xabi, then i'd think about it again... don't know who's the better player from those 2 but i'd say xabi at first sight.
Finally someone speaking the truth. Fact is that there are persons who know a lot more about transfers and players than we do, and if the board decides that stankovic is the right choice, well then so be it. He could easily do the same carreer as zanetti, who came to us at the exact same age and who turned out to be one of our best (or 'better' at least) players.
At the beginning i thought his age would be a problem but i just checked and he's 29!! that's not too old for someone like stankovic, and i think he could go on for at least another 4 or 5 years.
The thing is that we'll get him for a cheap price with relatively low wages. Not wanting him because of the fact that he played for inter is childish indeed.
What i don't really understand is what position he plays exactly; isn't he more of a AM, or more on the left even? Isn't that the neddy/giovinco position? anyway, if the price is right, i say we should get him. If he's our alternative to xabi, then i'd think about it again... don't know who's the better player from those 2 but i'd say xabi at first sight.
It is alarming that the board allow the fans so much power ( if thats the case) to dictate the way they handle the club's transfers. However there is no proof of the board giving the fans' their desires, whether they are wrong or right. With Giovinco it could be argued that Ranieri stopped the transfer or that he wasn't on the table anyway and zampareni was talking from his ass. Also remember many people opposed boumsong, sissoko and Iaquinta but all three were bought.
I don't know about many people but i want a board and management that have faith in their own abilities and do not let any external or internal factors affect that.
About Stankovic, well its a risk and he will need to show as much faith as we do in this deal. He needs to slash those wages by a mile and be prepared to sit on the bench until he forces himself into the starting eleven. He also needs to change his attitude a bit, but i wouldn't read too much into the comments (even though they are disgusting).
I don't know about many people but i want a board and management that have faith in their own abilities and do not let any external or internal factors affect that.
About Stankovic, well its a risk and he will need to show as much faith as we do in this deal. He needs to slash those wages by a mile and be prepared to sit on the bench until he forces himself into the starting eleven. He also needs to change his attitude a bit, but i wouldn't read too much into the comments (even though they are disgusting).
He sang "we win without cheating" when 
"won" the scudetto.
"won" the scudetto.
The odd thing is watching Vieira and Ibrahimovic singing this song, not Stankovic.
There isn't an Inter player who doesn't sing the song, just like it's with our guys who jump on "Chi non salta nerazzurro è".
Zanetti, Samuel, Maicon etc, they all sing the song to please the fans and yet many here would like them in our team. Cristiano Zanetti would have sang this song if he didn't move to Juve.
It's just a game and it's just a song.
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