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Zacheryah

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With what? We are weaker for sure, when them, by the time you will face them next year, they will have their new signings playing from January, plus will defenitely sign more players.
Depends

Comparing that game to a potential new one :

Defence is somwhat the same, tho bonucci could improve further. We lose vidal in the midfield, who nutered himself in the first game by that early yellow. But we''d have a much better Pogba. Morata will have improved further, Mandzukic gives an actual option to go for, and tevez went missing in the first game, who knows wether dybala will explode ?

Juventus, could be better then last season. Vidal out, but no pirlo in the midfield ? Could be better then you'd think


Barcelona ? How can they improve themselves ? They might be as good as they were, i dont see them improve further.




We were the weaker team. We'll still be the weaker team. Difference should be smaller and we'll have a much better defence thanks to the midfield.


"rip them to shreds" is offcourse a silly statement
 

Hængebøffer

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Depends

Comparing that game to a potential new one :

Defence is somwhat the same, tho bonucci could improve further. We lose vidal in the midfield, who nutered himself in the first game by that early yellow. But we''d have a much better Pogba. Morata will have improved further, Mandzukic gives an actual option to go for, and tevez went missing in the first game, who knows wether dybala will explode ?

Juventus, could be better then last season. Vidal out, but no pirlo in the midfield ? Could be better then you'd think


Barcelona ? How can they improve themselves ? They might be as good as they were, i dont see them improve further.




We were the weaker team. We'll still be the weaker team. Difference should be smaller and we'll have a much better defence thanks to the midfield.


"rip them to shreds" is offcourse a silly statement
Ffs, Zach. We are (and were) pathetic from central midfield, and above, compared to other big clubs. We have a long way to go.
 

Zacheryah

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Alves-Bartra-Verm-Adriano
-------Mascherano-------
----Rafinha---Roberto----


Look closely at that, LE fucked up and underrated them. Dani Alves got ripped apart by some Sabin something guy, Ter Stegen was lolsy, Mascherano and Vermaelen pretty much only ones that did decently.


Plus they have conceaded 8 goals in 3 days, kinda crazy.
Yeah, but a team with mascherano , suarez and messi should not lose 4-0, especially when Iniesta and Rakitic were on the field the last 60 minutes


Did they all got the flu or something
 

Klin

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They would probably destroy us. :lol:

And how the fuck do you know how much Pogba is going to be better? And Morata?
 

Osman

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Thats alot of spin to keep up with.

We lost KEY BIG players and not gotten enough in return so far. We are weaker team then we were last season and theirs is intact.
 

Klin

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Yeah, but a team with mascherano , suarez and messi should not lose 4-0, especially when Iniesta and Rakitic were on the field the last 60 minutes


Did they all got the flu or something
Bilbao are not Sampdoria. They're actually very good.
 

Zacheryah

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Ffs, Zach. We are (and were) pathetic from central midfield, and above, compared to other big clubs. We have a long way to go.
Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, is not pathetic imo. Playing Pirlo dragged them down, and Pogba was out of form returning from injury when we faced them.


Tevez was one of the worlds best strikers performance wise stepping in the game, and Morata scored in each of the last 5? Cl games ?


Pathetic is the wrong word.




We arent at barcelona/bayern/madrid level of offensive talent. I agree.


But we make up more then you'd think in organisation and defence, and are quite lethal on the counter

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They would probably destroy us. :lol:

And how the fuck do you know how much Pogba is going to be better? And Morata?
Pogba, came off injury and was in bad form when we faced barcelona. I'm not talking about his best performances before his injury.


Morata grew fast last season, he should now play a good level troughout the year and should be better yeah. Unless he gets injured or something
 

Hængebøffer

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Pogba, Vidal, Marchisio, is not pathetic imo. Playing Pirlo dragged them down, and Pogba was out of form returning from injury when we faced them.


Tevez was one of the worlds best strikers performance wise stepping in the game, and Morata scored in each of the last 5? Cl games ?


Pathetic is the wrong word.




We arent at barcelona/bayern/madrid level of offensive talent. I agree.


But we make up more then you'd think in organisation and defence, and are quite lethal on the counter
I said above midfield. We had no offensive play. Vidal was our AM, ffs. I'm talking about pathetic compared to other big teams. Midfield and defense, last season, was one of the best in Europe.
 

Zacheryah

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Thats alot of spin to keep up with.

We lost KEY BIG players and not gotten enough in return so far. We are weaker team then we were last season and theirs is intact.
We lost 2 key players. My point was that they performed badly in the final.


We start as a weaker team compared to last year, but can quickly improve thanks to Pogba and Dybala, while Mandzukic is an excellent aquisition, and i'm looking forward to seeing khedira and asamoah return to see how they'll do in the midfield

asamoah cm @Klin

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I said above. We had no offensive play. Vidal was our AM, ffs. I'm talking about pathetic compared to other team. Midfield and defense, last season, was one of the best in Europe.
Oh i see, okay :tup:
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Alves-Bartra-Verm-Adriano
-------Mascherano-------
----Rafinha---Roberto----


Look closely at that, LE $#@!ed up and underrated them. Dani Alves got ripped apart by some Sabin something guy, Ter Stegen was lolsy, Mascherano and Vermaelen pretty much only ones that did decently.


Plus they have conceaded 8 goals in 3 days, kinda crazy.
The Arsenal virus has spread in barcelona. They will never win again.
 

Hængebøffer

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We lost 2 key players. My point was that they performed badly in the final.


We start as a weaker team compared to last year, but can quickly improve thanks to Pogba and Dybala, while Mandzukic is an excellent aquisition, and i'm looking forward to seeing khedira and asamoah return to see how they'll do in the midfield

asamoah cm @Klin

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Oh i see, okay :tup:
Sorry. I meant compared to other big teams.
 

Zacheryah

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The Arsenal virus has spread in barcelona. They will never win again.
Vermaelen was there all season.

IIRC he didnt play all season

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Sorry. I meant compared to other big teams.
We are a bit different tho. We'll never play so much offensive players at once to be comparable to those teams even if we had such players. But we should always maintain that strong midfield and organisation.

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After 3 seasons, we might see asamoah as a cm. I wonder how that will go
 

Klin

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We lost 2 key players. My point was that they performed badly in the final.


We start as a weaker team compared to last year, but can quickly improve thanks to Pogba and Dybala, while Mandzukic is an excellent aquisition, and i'm looking forward to seeing khedira and asamoah return to see how they'll do in the midfield

asamoah cm @Klin

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Oh i see, okay :tup:
Let's see if he can sign a LB first.
 

Hist

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Jan 18, 2009
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Vermaelen was there all season.

IIRC he didnt play all season

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We are a bit different tho. We'll never play so much offensive players at once to be comparable to those teams even if we had such players. But we should always maintain that strong midfield and organisation.
He starts and Messi turns into Sanogo
 

Osman

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He got RAPED by some Basque nobody called Sabin, been a while since I seen a fullback get so molested for a full game.


This was happening all game long:


 
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