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pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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Everyone plays better under Simeone. Tiago, Mario Suarez, Filipe Luis, Miranda...the whole Atleti team are clear examples. What he has been doing with Atletico since he took over is amazing. It's not a one time thing either. He's doing this well with this group of players year after year. Best coaching job I've ever seen.
 

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zizinho

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Apr 14, 2013
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Said by the guy who judged Lemina after 3 games :lol:

10 goals and 3 assists in 18 appearances (6 sub) + the clear difference in how he is playing from instinct again + the fact that he never even came close to being that good (stats wise and quality of touch wise) under many coaches across different clubs. That is a good number of games especially if output is that high.

This dude was coached by AVB, Di Matteo, Benitez, Mourinho and Inzaghi before Simeone. Thats 5 coaches who tried with Torres and failed to have anything close to that effect. These 5 coaches include Benitez who is a good coach and knew torres very well and was in charge during his best years, and Mourinho who is a top level coach with a very good record of making players give their all. You have to be blind not to credit Simeone for getting this much out of a player that everyone else failed with.

Morata in contrast has 8 goals and 7 assists in his last 18 appearances and you have no problem in saying that he is back to last year's form after a long (not torres long obviously) slump. There is always the possibility of hitting the slump again, but these runs are definitely evidence of a leap in quality of performances.
Its one thing if you claim some kid is talented after watching him few times but to claim someone is back to his best form of his life (which was being on the Balon Dor shortlist) after a 12 game period is so ridiculous and so typical of you
 

Oggy

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Its one thing if you claim some kid is talented after watching him few times but to claim someone is back to his best form of his life (which was being on the Balon Dor shortlist) after a 12 game period is so ridiculous and so typical of you
So what you trying to say is that this Torres is an imbecile compared to Torres from his Liverpool days? :D
 

ALC

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Oct 28, 2010
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Everyone plays better under Simeone. Tiago, Mario Suarez, Filipe Luis, Miranda...the whole Atleti team are clear examples. What he has been doing with Atletico since he took over is amazing. It's not a one time thing either. He's doing this well with this group of players year after year. Best coaching job I've ever seen.
:agree: he doesn't get nearly as much praise as he should
 

pavluska

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Apr 25, 2013
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:agree: he doesn't get nearly as much praise as he should
He did when he won La Liga (which was a shocker), but since then, people got used to it and forgot what an unbelievable job he's doing with Atletico (anyone not saying he's the best coach in the world was/is underrating him). Once the shock factor wore off, people began debating again whether Pep or Mou is the best in the world, and after Mou's recent failure, it was just Pep. Only recently, we're hearing murmurs of Simeone being great again after his Atleti beat Pep's Bayern.
 
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