Aguero was very quiet tonight. Also Andy you will hate me but Rossi was unplayable tonight.
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I like Zlatan, he along with Berbatov(to a lesser extent and when at his best) are players that make football look so effortless and easy, i'd prefer if he played at another team where he would be given more freedom. But to say that he's been a good signing for Barca or to even begin to imply that is just 
I expect him to be better with time as he gets more used to his role, and i do not doubt that he is overall one of the best in the world and a much better player than Eto'o, but at the time being he hasn't delivered for Barca.
I expect him to be better with time as he gets more used to his role, and i do not doubt that he is overall one of the best in the world and a much better player than Eto'o, but at the time being he hasn't delivered for Barca.
Real Madrid vs Atlético Madrid
LA Liga 2009-2010 Day 29
Saturday March 28, 2010 19 GMT
Bernabéu
JSC SPORTS - Ara. Comm. - 1150 KBPS - 320*240 - flv
Goals
First Goal for Atlético Madrid by Reyes 11
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Alonso Draws for Real Madrid (1-1) 48
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Second Goal for Real Madrid by Arbeloa 56
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Third Goal for Real Madrid by Higuain 62
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Second Goal for Atlético Madrid by Forlan (PK) 68
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Extras
Danger Shot by Ronaldo Right to the Goal 30
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Chances for Real Madrid by Marcelo off the Post and Higuain 40 !
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Nice Shot by Higuain left to the Goal 80
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Highlights
First Half Highlights : Real Madrid 0-1 Atlético Madrid
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Second Half Highlights : Real Madrid 3-2 Atlético Madrid
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that was actually good.
This is really arguable, Fred. I guess it has a lot to do with the expectations, but I checked his full stats this year, and considering how Barca has minimum 11 more matches to play (maximum 14), these aren't bad numbers and can become great numbers if Zlatan keeps scoring and assisting with the same rate he was so far.
La Liga:
24 matches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Ibrahimović)
15 goals (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topscorers?league=esp.1&year=2009&seasontype=1&cc=5739)
6 assists (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topassists?league=esp.1&seasontype=4&cc=5739)
So, 21 goals+assists on 24 matches
CL:
8 matches
4 goals (http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/statistics/players/type=topscorers/index.html)
2 assists (http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/statistics/players/type=assists/index.html)
So, 6 goals+assists on 8 matches
Total: 27 goals+assists on 32 matches
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Also:
World club championship
2 matches
0 goals
1 assist (http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/clubworldcup/uae2009/results/match=300111968/summary.html)
Coppa del rey
2 matches
1 goal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Ibrahimović)
0 assists
This makes it a total of 29 goals+assists (20 goals+9 assists) on 36 matches.
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If all goes well, without injuries, I can easily imagine him scoring 25 goals+ more than 10 assists.
If that's disappointing, especially for a first season, well, then folks seriously have to lower their expectations.
La Liga:
24 matches (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Ibrahimović)
15 goals (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topscorers?league=esp.1&year=2009&seasontype=1&cc=5739)
6 assists (http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topassists?league=esp.1&seasontype=4&cc=5739)
So, 21 goals+assists on 24 matches
CL:
8 matches
4 goals (http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/statistics/players/type=topscorers/index.html)
2 assists (http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/statistics/players/type=assists/index.html)
So, 6 goals+assists on 8 matches
Total: 27 goals+assists on 32 matches
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Also:
World club championship
2 matches
0 goals
1 assist (http://www.fifa.com/tournaments/archive/clubworldcup/uae2009/results/match=300111968/summary.html)
Coppa del rey
2 matches
1 goal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zlatan_Ibrahimović)
0 assists
This makes it a total of 29 goals+assists (20 goals+9 assists) on 36 matches.
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If all goes well, without injuries, I can easily imagine him scoring 25 goals+ more than 10 assists.
If that's disappointing, especially for a first season, well, then folks seriously have to lower their expectations.
Its not about the goals Alen, any decent striker will get goals for Barca.
Also i have to say, when your playing for Barca, the least you are expected to score with such quality service is 20 league goals, the very least. At the moment in the league he hasn't been consistent enough, and has had several bad games. He also loses the ball alot and still does not link as well as he should with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. Most Barca fans would tell you that he hasn't lived up to the expectations this season, and most Real fans are laughing at Barca for making such a signing.
Now imo, it is kind of understandable, i never thought of Zlatan as a consistent out and out goalscorer, he is more of a complete forward that does a little of everything. He needs the freedom to move around, pick the ball from deep, be a creative outlet for his team etc. Despite any statistics he might have, he still has not been as good as he should be for Barca. I do expect him to be better next season though, once he gets more accustomed to his new role.
But has he scored 6 goals in the CL? I have to say, that is very good. Off the top of my head, i don't actually remember him having poor games in the CL other than the Inter game in Italy.
As for the use of statistics, i really don't think they are enough to judge a player. Statistics could be so misleading, i remember one of the seasons Makelele had a better passing percentage than Fabregas, but that was probably because he always made sideway passes while Cesc took more risks. Kaka's statistics don't look bad this season, yet he has been labeled a flop by Real fans themselves.
Also i have to say, when your playing for Barca, the least you are expected to score with such quality service is 20 league goals, the very least. At the moment in the league he hasn't been consistent enough, and has had several bad games. He also loses the ball alot and still does not link as well as he should with the likes of Xavi, Iniesta and Messi. Most Barca fans would tell you that he hasn't lived up to the expectations this season, and most Real fans are laughing at Barca for making such a signing.
Now imo, it is kind of understandable, i never thought of Zlatan as a consistent out and out goalscorer, he is more of a complete forward that does a little of everything. He needs the freedom to move around, pick the ball from deep, be a creative outlet for his team etc. Despite any statistics he might have, he still has not been as good as he should be for Barca. I do expect him to be better next season though, once he gets more accustomed to his new role.
But has he scored 6 goals in the CL? I have to say, that is very good. Off the top of my head, i don't actually remember him having poor games in the CL other than the Inter game in Italy.
As for the use of statistics, i really don't think they are enough to judge a player. Statistics could be so misleading, i remember one of the seasons Makelele had a better passing percentage than Fabregas, but that was probably because he always made sideway passes while Cesc took more risks. Kaka's statistics don't look bad this season, yet he has been labeled a flop by Real fans themselves.