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Henry is a good comparison. Ask the Irish about him. Skill doesn't mask cheating, it's still the same. But I saw Maradona interviewed by Lineker and he said it wasn't cheating, just being clever and streetwise. That's the difference you see in mentality between South America and England pre-foreign influx, those things are part of the game in SA.
Ridiculous to think that every English tabloid paper isn't going to show his "Hand of God" goal when it's a legendary moment against the English national team, so much that it's in the English vernacular. That image is one of the most famous in English football history. If you want to read it from the Argentinian or Italian or French perspective then read their tabloids. Let's not pretend that the Italians wouldn't have gone apoplectic if he had done it against them. They were ready to send him back to Argentina when he scored in the shoot-out in 1990, and Ahn never played in Italy again after his goal in 2002.
Anyway, let's not move focus away from Maradona as the great footballer, it's not about what he did against one country.
Ridiculous to think that every English tabloid paper isn't going to show his "Hand of God" goal when it's a legendary moment against the English national team, so much that it's in the English vernacular. That image is one of the most famous in English football history. If you want to read it from the Argentinian or Italian or French perspective then read their tabloids. Let's not pretend that the Italians wouldn't have gone apoplectic if he had done it against them. They were ready to send him back to Argentina when he scored in the shoot-out in 1990, and Ahn never played in Italy again after his goal in 2002.
Anyway, let's not move focus away from Maradona as the great footballer, it's not about what he did against one country.
Fuck Ahn.
That was a much deeper cut than anything that happened in 1986, because it was as if people sat around a table and decided South Korea should go through.
As for the rest, of course they should show his Hand of God goal. It was one of the two most famous goals he made.
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That was a much deeper cut than anything that happened in 1986, because it was as if people sat around a table and decided South Korea should go through.
As for the rest, of course they should show his Hand of God goal. It was one of the two most famous goals he made.
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It's the one thing young kids from the Messi-Ronaldo generation should understand. Back in the day this sport used to be BRUTAL.
Being skilled meant that every time you used your abilities against a defender there was always a chance a brutal tackle would come your way. Maradona got his leg broken. Pelé got beat to a pulp in 66'. Referees would turn a blind eye and just tell them to get up, shut up and keep playing. Fans would actually get mad if your defender didn't stop the attacker by any means necessary. That was their job.
I'm not trying to take away Messi and Ronaldo's credit for all they did. Talent wise I think they're just as good as all the other legends. It's the breaking records, the amount of goals, trophies and the consistency that doesn't make sense. Sure fitness plays a part here but it can't be denied they play in a time defenders are afraid to do anything a little more physical for fear of being sent off quite easily. Forwards today have way more freedom in terms of how they can run past the whole team and nobody will go for his knees.
As you said, without the violence Maradona today would not be stopped and would have just as much goals and trophies as Messi-Ronaldo.
Oh, I know. Both have biological as well as recreational purposes. That doesn't mean you question why the profession exists.
Serious 34 years of butt hurt. Worse: it's that lame historical revisionist mentality that believes if you revert one play the entire match would swing in their favor.
England would have still been losers without that goal.
Depends on your tastes, really.
A FK, yup.
Serious 34 years of butt hurt. Worse: it's that lame historical revisionist mentality that believes if you revert one play the entire match would swing in their favor.
England would have still been losers without that goal.
Depends on your tastes, really.
A FK, yup.
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