Well I am not for the Italian blood argument but all nationalities consider there to be "Italian blood" or "Spanish blood" as in heritage but technically no there is not "Italian blood" because we all have the same blood.
I'm not Italian. That's why I couldn't really care less if Amauri plays for Italy. In fact, I hope he doesn't and comes here.
But what I demand is keeping a standard. You cannot cheer on Camoranesi while rejecting Amauri because they're both not Italian. That's where you are being a hypocrite and everyone can see it.
Camoranesi grew up in Argentina, spoke Spanish, lived as an Argentinian, learned about the culture, was raised in an Argentinian culture and only moved to Italy 23 years after his birth as an Argentinian.
Well I am not for the Italian blood argument but all nationalities consider there to be "Italian blood" or "Spanish blood" as in heritage but technically no there is not "Italian blood" because we all have the same blood.
Heritage is fine. But let me ask you this. I have German heritage, but there is really nothing German about me. Could I play for Germany or one of the other several nations I have heritage in?
I don't "cheer" on Camoranesi fwiw, and he is part Italian unlike the fully Brazilian Amauri. The fact is, Camo HAS both Italian and Argentinian, which is why he had a choice.
We're clearly not gonna agree there so its a bit pointless really, no?
Heritage is fine. But let me ask you this. I have German heritage, but there is really nothing German about me. Could I play for Germany or one of the other several nations I have heritage in?
Tbh, I am not going to argue this as I said early. I just don't see the purpose of arguing something which is purely subjective. No one is going to leave this thread believing a word you say if they didn't already agree with you when they first looked at it. Not saying you're wrong or right. Just that this is a purely subjective argument with no real right or wrong answer.
Those questions don't really help your argument. That is how club teams work not NT's. They are clearly DIFFERENT. Plus with that logic you are saying that how Inter fields a primarily South American team along with ONE Italian only and at times no Italians is the best idea. Think of something better if you want to argue like that.
I'm not going to get involved with this argument because its all opinions and no one is right or wrong in this aspect. Its all opinions which no one will change their mind. So basically its useless to argue but continue arguing.
I don't get your point here. Let's put aside for a moment the Inter example, and look at Arsenal .Arsenal only have 1 English player in their senior squad. Is this good or bad? It depends. If the foreign players are better than their English counterparts then it does not matter to the club as it only chases what is best for it.,thus they get the foreing players, and thus why they are great. But it hurts the rise of home grown players.
And I don't see how Inter fielding 10 foreigners has anything to do here. We are not talking about replacing an entire national team, we are talking about a case(s) where a very good foreign player should play for Italy ahead of average home grown counter part
I don't "cheer" on Camoranesi fwiw, and he is part Italian unlike the fully Brazilian Amauri. The fact is, Camo HAS both Italian and Argentinian, which is why he had a choice.
We're clearly not gonna agree there so its a bit pointless really, no?
So take this Italian ethnicity and divide it in half. Take 4 and divide it by 2. What do you get? You get 2, which is clearly not 4. 4 does not equal 2.
I have probably about 5% English heritage. Can I play for England?
I have about 25% Irish heritage. Can I play for Ireland?
I have about 75% German heritage. Can I play for Germany? I don't know a word of German but gosh damn, I have that lineage in me that says I can play for Germany. Call up Joachim Löw and tell him I'm ready to go!
So take this Italian ethnicity and divide it in half. Take 4 and divide it by 2. What do you get? You get 2, which is clearly not 4. 4 does not equal 2.
I have probably about 5% English heritage. Can I play for England?
I have about 25% Irish heritage. Can I play for Ireland?
I have about 75% German heritage. Can I play for Germany? I don't know a word of German but gosh damn, I have that lineage in me that says I can play for Germany. Call up Joachim Löw and tell him I'm ready to go!
I don't get your point here. Let's put aside for a moment the Inter example, and look at Arsenal .Arsenal only have 1 English player in their senior squad. Is this good or bad? It depends. If the foreign players are better than their English counterparts then it does not matter to the club as it only chases what is best for it.,thus they get the foreing players, and thus why they are great. But it hurts the rise of home grown players.
And I don't see how Inter fielding 10 foreigners has anything to do here. We are not talking about replacing an entire national team, we are talking about a case(s) where a very good foreign player should play for Italy ahead of average home grown counter part
Your argument doesn't make sense in terms of NTs. Here you are saying we can make an exception to let this one good player play for Italy. I just don't think you are making a solid argument for Amauri to join the NT with that argument is all I am saying because you say he has no connection to Italy at all but he is "better" than everyone in Italy so he should play for the NT. With that logic, we might as well replace a lot of positions on the NT with another player who plays in Italy who is slightly better. I used Inter because it is an extreme case of what you are saying should be done which is complained about in Italy regularly as well as on this forum.
No his parents are not Italian. They are Argentinian.
But no, we're talking about heritage here. I have heritage in all those different places. And like I said, if you're going to use the heritage argument, you cannot put a break in the lineage after the grandparents. That defeats the whole purpose of heritage and family trees.