So Who Should Play for the Azzurri? (1 Viewer)
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It's really simple. If you live in a county for x number of years and gain a passport that says you are Italian, or American, Or Spanish (you get the point) and if you can travel around the world with that and if you can are subject to country x's culture, language, taxes, politics and life then playing for the national team of x is no different.
And I can't understand this "if player x is not from country A, not B, then he does not love country B as much as country A" .....this argument is flawed. First of all you don't know how much said player loves a country. Look at fans here for example. A lot of people have no Italian roots, yet they love the Azzurri more than they love their own teams. second, most players these days are professionals. They want to play well for whatever team they play.
this argument about a player playing for for team B because he got rejected by team A is also flawed. Players do not get paid for representing their national team (at least not in the big teams) they do it for love, pride and personal glory. If Amauri decides to play for Italy it's because he wants the best for himself, which naturally would mean helping whatever team he plays for win cups. So how can this be bad for Italy if a good player helps them win?
Also I do find this argument of "the only reason player x plays for country A is because he got rejected by country B so he should not play there" really stupid. Hey maybe if I an employer and the next time a really good potential employee comes my way I should not hire him even though he is great, because he wants to join only because he got rejected by another company.
Maybe I should not go out with girls because the only reason they would go out with me is because they could not date Brad Pitt
And I can't understand this "if player x is not from country A, not B, then he does not love country B as much as country A" .....this argument is flawed. First of all you don't know how much said player loves a country. Look at fans here for example. A lot of people have no Italian roots, yet they love the Azzurri more than they love their own teams. second, most players these days are professionals. They want to play well for whatever team they play.
this argument about a player playing for for team B because he got rejected by team A is also flawed. Players do not get paid for representing their national team (at least not in the big teams) they do it for love, pride and personal glory. If Amauri decides to play for Italy it's because he wants the best for himself, which naturally would mean helping whatever team he plays for win cups. So how can this be bad for Italy if a good player helps them win?
Also I do find this argument of "the only reason player x plays for country A is because he got rejected by country B so he should not play there" really stupid. Hey maybe if I an employer and the next time a really good potential employee comes my way I should not hire him even though he is great, because he wants to join only because he got rejected by another company.
Maybe I should not go out with girls because the only reason they would go out with me is because they could not date Brad Pitt
If his parents, parents are Italian, I think that is a connection.
The thing is though, Amauri is a Brazil team reject, surely you can see that?
He isnt picked for Brazil, so he has this mentality that many Brazilians have. "If Brazil wont pick me, i'll play for someone else". Just like Eduardo, Deco, Pepe many, many others.
Why does it matter if im Italian or not? My opinion still counts doesnt it?
The thing is though, Amauri is a Brazil team reject, surely you can see that?
He isnt picked for Brazil, so he has this mentality that many Brazilians have. "If Brazil wont pick me, i'll play for someone else". Just like Eduardo, Deco, Pepe many, many others.
Why does it matter if im Italian or not? My opinion still counts doesnt it?
STOP CALLING HIM A REJECT. It's dumb. Brazil is the greatest football nation in the world, surely you can see that? They have thousands of great players to choose from.
Yet that idiot Donadoni picks players like Gilardino who is utter crap right now. Amauri is better than pretty much every striker Italia has right now yet Azzurri fans still call him a "reject." It's just stupid.
Every single Italian striker barring Del Piero would be a Brazilian "reject" right now, so don't give me this rubbish.
Perhaps that's because Brazil has thousands of talents to choose from?
And again, you'd have no problem if the new Maradona wanted to play for Italy.
Ohh, it does matter my boy. It does.
Yet that idiot Donadoni picks players like Gilardino who is utter crap right now. Amauri is better than pretty much every striker Italia has right now yet Azzurri fans still call him a "reject." It's just stupid.
Every single Italian striker barring Del Piero would be a Brazilian "reject" right now, so don't give me this rubbish.
Perhaps that's because Brazil has thousands of talents to choose from?
And again, you'd have no problem if the new Maradona wanted to play for Italy.
Ohh, it does matter my boy. It does.
and guess what? they happen to be fantastic players both their world class clubs and National teams. So where is the harm?
But no perhaps when selecting player for Azzuri, we should do it based on a test of how much knowledge you have of Italian culture, language and such instead of foot ability. Maybe this way we can see true real lovers of Italy be selected. After all if Bonera is more passionate about Italy than Chiellini then Bonera should go for the national team
But no perhaps when selecting player for Azzuri, we should do it based on a test of how much knowledge you have of Italian culture, language and such instead of foot ability. Maybe this way we can see true real lovers of Italy be selected. After all if Bonera is more passionate about Italy than Chiellini then Bonera should go for the national team
Look, when was the last time you watched Brazil? They DONT have this wealth of strikers to choose from that you seem to think they do. Look at the options please if you have single clue about them. Vágner Love, Afonso Alves etc. These are not great players.
Brazil has many great players, for sure, but if you look strikers are not their best area by any stretch. It is their weakest area. Yet, they still overlook the almighty Amauri?
If you think Pepe is world class then you really are short of a clue.
Brazil has many great players, for sure, but if you look strikers are not their best area by any stretch. It is their weakest area. Yet, they still overlook the almighty Amauri?
If you think Pepe is world class then you really are short of a clue.
The discussion is about the rules in general. These rules are applied to all FIFA nations and there are loopholes in everything.
Now, if we want to use your birthplace as one of the rules for where you can play, Claudio Gentile could not play for Italy because he was born in Tripoli and spent about a year there.
Now, if we want to use your birthplace as one of the rules for where you can play, Claudio Gentile could not play for Italy because he was born in Tripoli and spent about a year there.
This is just really dumb.
What, you think Amauri is a terrible player because he wasn't called up by Dunga? Who cares! Doesn't matter whatsoever.
The brilliant Donadoni didn't call Del Piero up recently... does that mean Del Piero is an "Italian Reject"?
It doesn't mean anything. And what matters is that Amauri is better than most Italian strikers whether he's been called up for whatever NT or not.
What, you think Amauri is a terrible player because he wasn't called up by Dunga? Who cares! Doesn't matter whatsoever.
The brilliant Donadoni didn't call Del Piero up recently... does that mean Del Piero is an "Italian Reject"?
It doesn't mean anything. And what matters is that Amauri is better than most Italian strikers whether he's been called up for whatever NT or not.