Are you?
And obviously its subjective and you go on about hypocrisy all the time. I dont remember me being a hypocrit once here. I will stick to my opinions.
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And obviously its subjective and you go on about hypocrisy all the time. I dont remember me being a hypocrit once here. I will stick to my opinions.
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I'm not Italian. That's why I couldn't really care less if Amauri plays for Italy. In fact, I hope he doesn't and comes here.
But what I demand is keeping a standard. You cannot cheer on Camoranesi while rejecting Amauri because they're both not Italian. That's where you are being a hypocrite and everyone can see it.
Camoranesi grew up in Argentina, spoke Spanish, lived as an Argentinian, learned about the culture, was raised in an Argentinian culture and only moved to Italy 23 years after his birth as an Argentinian.
But what I demand is keeping a standard. You cannot cheer on Camoranesi while rejecting Amauri because they're both not Italian. That's where you are being a hypocrite and everyone can see it.
Camoranesi grew up in Argentina, spoke Spanish, lived as an Argentinian, learned about the culture, was raised in an Argentinian culture and only moved to Italy 23 years after his birth as an Argentinian.
Tbh, I am not going to argue this as I said early. I just don't see the purpose of arguing something which is purely subjective. No one is going to leave this thread believing a word you say if they didn't already agree with you when they first looked at it. Not saying you're wrong or right. Just that this is a purely subjective argument with no real right or wrong answer.
I don't get your point here. Let's put aside for a moment the Inter example, and look at Arsenal .Arsenal only have 1 English player in their senior squad. Is this good or bad? It depends. If the foreign players are better than their English counterparts then it does not matter to the club as it only chases what is best for it.,thus they get the foreing players, and thus why they are great. But it hurts the rise of home grown players.
And I don't see how Inter fielding 10 foreigners has anything to do here. We are not talking about replacing an entire national team, we are talking about a case(s) where a very good foreign player should play for Italy ahead of average home grown counter part
And I don't see how Inter fielding 10 foreigners has anything to do here. We are not talking about replacing an entire national team, we are talking about a case(s) where a very good foreign player should play for Italy ahead of average home grown counter part
Okay, so Camoranesi is "half Italian."
So take this Italian ethnicity and divide it in half. Take 4 and divide it by 2. What do you get? You get 2, which is clearly not 4. 4 does not equal 2.
I have probably about 5% English heritage. Can I play for England?
I have about 25% Irish heritage. Can I play for Ireland?
I have about 75% German heritage. Can I play for Germany? I don't know a word of German but gosh damn, I have that lineage in me that says I can play for Germany. Call up Joachim Löw and tell him I'm ready to go!
So take this Italian ethnicity and divide it in half. Take 4 and divide it by 2. What do you get? You get 2, which is clearly not 4. 4 does not equal 2.
I have probably about 5% English heritage. Can I play for England?
I have about 25% Irish heritage. Can I play for Ireland?
I have about 75% German heritage. Can I play for Germany? I don't know a word of German but gosh damn, I have that lineage in me that says I can play for Germany. Call up Joachim Löw and tell him I'm ready to go!
I think he knows it but chooses not to sing it because he considers himself Argentinian if I am not mistaken.
Your argument doesn't make sense in terms of NTs. Here you are saying we can make an exception to let this one good player play for Italy. I just don't think you are making a solid argument for Amauri to join the NT with that argument is all I am saying because you say he has no connection to Italy at all but he is "better" than everyone in Italy so he should play for the NT. With that logic, we might as well replace a lot of positions on the NT with another player who plays in Italy who is slightly better. I used Inter because it is an extreme case of what you are saying should be done which is complained about in Italy regularly as well as on this forum.
Your argument doesn't make sense in terms of NTs. Here you are saying we can make an exception to let this one good player play for Italy. I just don't think you are making a solid argument for Amauri to join the NT with that argument is all I am saying because you say he has no connection to Italy at all but he is "better" than everyone in Italy so he should play for the NT. With that logic, we might as well replace a lot of positions on the NT with another player who plays in Italy who is slightly better. I used Inter because it is an extreme case of what you are saying should be done which is complained about in Italy regularly as well as on this forum.
No his parents are not Italian. They are Argentinian.
But no, we're talking about heritage here. I have heritage in all those different places. And like I said, if you're going to use the heritage argument, you cannot put a break in the lineage after the grandparents. That defeats the whole purpose of heritage and family trees.
But no, we're talking about heritage here. I have heritage in all those different places. And like I said, if you're going to use the heritage argument, you cannot put a break in the lineage after the grandparents. That defeats the whole purpose of heritage and family trees.