Cronios you probably know me more than the rest here how I am patient with managers and players. While everyone was against Capello, I was probably the only one to argue with everyone to support him. It was the same at Ancelotti time. You said it yourself, and I agree with you, that bringing Ranieri was a crime from the first place. And it is justified now, so what is the point in keeping him if he is the wrong guy? If we had balance, consistence and a good performance, why would I want him go? People are bullshitting me that taking Del Piero off from Sampdoria game was the reason he did good against Inter. That move cost us two golden points from serie A, what is this bullshit about? Is Coppa Italia our new Champions league?? is it our primary target to play careless in Serie A?? Everyone is forgetting that we played a shitty performance against Inter, and Del Piero's goal was totally an individual skill, not something Ranieri taught him to do. We were playing pathetic against a 10 men reserve team, and were down 2-0 down, that's is not an acceptable! and above that you add another defender to the team?? Everyone is claiming that that was a good move, doesn't know what football is about!
What balance? what teamwork? what stability?
We (Juventus) are now risking future. Look what Ramos did with Tottenham!! miracles are not needed. Just common sense. We need vision, concrete idea of how our teem should look like. Most of people here stand by and have a vision (even Lampoard). The man at the side line right now is clueless and is not limited at all with players at disposal and injuries. He is the one who let them out of the team, and YES, managers have "some" responsibility.
Guys dont make me defend CR, i hate it, as i m one of his main bashers,
no need to convince me of his non-value.
But the concept of changing the coach at mid-season has been repeatedly proven as bad idea and i m against it!
One way or another, CR hasnt got disastrous results as of yet and it is not a necessity.
We have already made a mistake, by bringing him, from the very beginning and trying to correct it now, would only make things even worse, its too late.
Thats why i was against this move from the beginning, because i predicted this moment and because i know there is no easy fix, using a radical solution!
Our noob managers should have given a second thought to this, but they found CR's salary too tempting to pass on...
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I accuse our incompetent managers for CR's mistakes!
Thats what managers do, they are always a few steps ahead and make the right strategic decisions.
Teamwork isnt build within a day and we still lack of it, the more we change our starters and our coach, the more we are getting away from it.
If we bring another urgent solution now and change it for a better permanent solution within a year, we lose more and more in the long run, for sure!
At this very moment we need stability, as much as we need results.
We are building a new team.
As long as we are third and we have no internal problems, a new risky move woulnt be a wise choice, since we have more to lose than to win.
Our managers could bring an even worse coach that could lead us to uefa positions,
or someone as stubborn as Capello, that would provoke problems within our team and players, a sector, where CR keeps some balance. There is no guarantee that things will work any better,with a new coach and we are not that desperate just yet. I m not any confident that our owners would do any better than CR.
CR's team, is only 3 months old and they managed not to lose the derbies and keep up with the top teams, even surpassing giants, like the CL winner, Milan.
This is not smth we could call a horrible performance and it can not easily surpassed or repeated.I was expecting much less from CR.
A draw with that Inter is much much more valuable than a draw with the older, weaker Inter and us having in our disposal, the Capello's team, instead of this pitiful team with starters like Molinaro.
Capello had the better team and he didnt manage to gain from than superiority,
CR has an inferior team and manages to cope with them. For my standards CR has done a better job than Capello,(in the derbies at least), considering the circumstances...
For a coach to make things better now and present a miracle, covering all the lost time would be, a task almost impossible to do, even for the best coaches in the world.
So unless we have the chance to bring one of them and keep him as a permanent solution, i m against of any coach changing, that would unbalance any kind of balance we have, or we may have in the near future and is currently growing up day after day.
Just look at the Milan clubs, they have average coaches but keeping them so long time, are now benefit of great teamwork and a certain gameplan infused in the team's spirit.
This cannot happen within a day.
Its unfair to expect from CR to present the same performance and compare his work to theirs, when he had only 3 months and a summer to build his team.Not to mention the material he has.
And its entirely impossible for any coach that would bring now to do that within a week's time!
If we had the option on Mourinho, even if that would compromise the rest of the season, i would agree with that move,
but any other coach of CR's caliber or worse, wouldnt help us now...
Bringing in a Sissoko to replace Nocerino, wouldnt help our creativity problems, some thing is valid more ol less, for a coach similar to CR's caliber, if we had no option to buy anyone better in the summer, we wont have any much better options now.
Besides, a new coach would only risk to lose CL qualification and destroy his prestige/carrier,
if he finishes at top 3, he would only repeat CR's performance,
to reach in the top with that point+material handicap, would be almost impossible for anyone now.
No sane, high class coach, would join us now under those circumstances!
(only Lippi's affection for our team would, probably)
Having secured the CL position, a new big budget and a summer to adjust the team, would be very tempting though...:eyebrows:
I think you ppl have been too emotional after the Inter struggle,
i was too, but i tried to be rational and i voted for option 2
and then i had to defend it,
later on, i saw i was the first one to do and the vast majority vote for option 1,
but i was sure that, in the second day, things would chance,
as ppl calm down and become as objective as before,
i advice you, never to make on the spot decisions, when you are nervous
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