Should Ranieri stay or go? (4 Viewers)

Should Ranieri stay or go?

  • 1- Enough is enough, fire him!

  • 2- He is bad, but we need to keep him until the end of the season

  • 3- Keep him! He is the best option


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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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#41
People here are again forgetting the basis of our criticism yet again. We all know we have don't have a squad as great as Inter's. Our criticism and worry stems from Ranieri's idiotic decisions match after match that continue to slide out of control, thus costing us points that we could have obtained if Ranieri did the logical thing. He's shown himself to be clueless on several occasions and that's why he should be gone immediately. At least have a fucking idea.
 

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Morra10

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Apr 30, 2006
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#42
People here are again forgetting the basis of our criticism yet again. We all know we have don't have a squad as great as Inter's. Our criticism and worry stems from Ranieri's idiotic decisions match after match that continue to slide out of control, thus costing us points that we could have obtained if Ranieri did the logical thing. He's shown himself to be clueless on several occasions and that's why he should be gone immediately. At least have a fucking idea.

See I agree that raneri has made some retarded decisions but he's also made a lot of good ones. If his focus was on inter midweek then I understand why he didn't start a 4-3-3 against samp. We only have 4 strikers, so starting 3 of them in that game would of left us in a bad position for the inter game. Sacking him now would be a mistake because the players would have to learn the new coaches formation and tactics and that could take a while. Plus with a new coach we'll still be in the same situation we're in now. The management needs to go before raneri.
 

swag

L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
84,754
#45
Half time substitution at Juventus
Out -> Ranieri
In <- Mourinho

;)
How can I argue with someone down on the seaside of Cascais?

I wanna see Mourinho on the Juve bench, giving the big, fat middle finger to the rest of Serie A next year.
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
62,797
#46
I wanna see Mourinho on the Juve bench, giving the big, fat middle finger to the rest of Serie A next year.
:agree: :scarf:

ranieri should stay till the end of the season. but if we want to win something we should JOSE MOURINHO!
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
#47
Get rid of secco and the rest of the management first. Look who raneri had on the bench today. The only one he could of subbed on was tiago and he's on his way out. Give raneri players and depth and see what he can do. It's not his fault we've had so many injuries. If a team has injury problems the best thing to do is to go out and get replacements. We're being to hard on him for mistakes our management are making.
You have a point, but the guy has some kind of a affection for Sissoko that can only be compared to that of Capello and Zlatan and he apparently said no to Van Der Vaart. I don't know what other ambitious plans he has for us for next year.
 

.zero

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Aug 8, 2006
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#49
like it or not he is not going to last long in turin. i am more than sure that our board has plans to bring in a big dog manager to replace ranieri. the problem is that i dont know what they are waiting for and why they didn't do it over the summer.
 
Sep 26, 2007
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#50
I think Ranieri had a hard job coming in after Serie B. He started out fine. I didn't agree with a lot of his decisions but I put that aside. He hasn't learned from any of his mistakes and we are continuing to lose points due to his stupidity. He has no rhyme or reason to what he does. He has an obsession with Sissoko as well as his other former players. Its unhealthy if you ask me. If its true we paid 12m for Sissoko, we definitely are stupid. A player who goes from "32m" to 12m in a period of 6 months is not worth the money. :crazy:

I think we need some major changes to Juventus that does not just include getting rid of Ranieri. We need to rid ourselves of our management especially Secco. If we get rid of Ranieri and keep Secco, I think our club will continue to be this shitty for lack of a better word and vice versa. So yes I want Ranieri out asap but I also want us to do a total revamp of our management. Without either one its hopeless. Lets just pray for a UEFA Cup spot when we should have achieved a CL spot.
 

Midzata®

Senior Member
Jan 26, 2007
1,152
#52
I just hope that Mourinho will be loooking a chalenge rather thatn wages for the next season.

Or we can always loung for Lippi!!! I would be thrilled with either of them:tup:
 

Amaurisimo

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Dec 8, 2007
4,622
#53
You have a point, but the guy has some kind of a affection for Sissoko that can only be compared to that of Capello and Zlatan and he apparently said no to Van Der Vaart. I don't know what other ambitious plans he has for us for next year.
Have you ever seen Sissoko?
He is much better than Nocerino, and other one is in first 11. And "apparently said "
simply is not good enough. Management will never tell real targets, don't you get it?
 

Zé Tahir

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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
#54
Have you ever seen Sissoko?
He is much better than Nocerino, and other one is in first 11. And "apparently said "
simply is not good enough. Management will never tell real targets, don't you get it?
Sure he's much better than Nocerino, is that what we need right now? 'A much better' players to each of our players? Let's get a much better Del Piero, a much better Trezeguet, a much better Nedved... No, we need defenders now. We don't need to fork our 12 million euro's on a much better Nocerino.

Well you're probably right, but when he decides to bring in Sissoko in January it sends out a bad message.
 

Amaurisimo

Senior Member
Dec 8, 2007
4,622
#58
I think Ranieri had a hard job coming in after Serie B. He started out fine. I didn't agree with a lot of his decisions but I put that aside. He hasn't learned from any of his mistakes and we are continuing to lose points due to his stupidity. He has no rhyme or reason to what he does. He has an obsession with Sissoko as well as his other former players. Its unhealthy if you ask me. If its true we paid 12m for Sissoko, we definitely are stupid. A player who goes from "32m" to 12m in a period of 6 months is not worth the money. :crazy:

I think we need some major changes to Juventus that does not just include getting rid of Ranieri. We need to rid ourselves of our management especially Secco. If we get rid of Ranieri and keep Secco, I think our club will continue to be this shitty for lack of a better word and vice versa. So yes I want Ranieri out asap but I also want us to do a total revamp of our management. Without either one its hopeless. Lets just pray for a UEFA Cup spot when we should have achieved a CL spot.
Ranieri had much harder job than any other coach this season. He had new, young team with few senior players who did not perform up to level. Remember Neddy & DP. Just last 6-7 games they are playing as they should. He had so many injured players, he had to fight against referees too. Now against journalist as well.
He gives interviews in Italian mainly and many of them are misinterpreted.

Thing about Sissoko is that Rafa did not want to sell him at beginning of season, and its only natural to put price up in that case.
Now Rafa wants Mascherano who is bit different player, but they would need £17 mil to keep him, and i dont think they would have him. But their midfield is so crowded as they have Gerrard, Mascherano, Alonso, Babel, to mention few off.

Also I am really surprised to read that some of you cheered up for Inter after 2:0..
He would not loose his job even if it stayed like that, as our 11 is not even close to Inters at the moment. Shame on you.

In regards to new coach, lets wait until end of the season , and if we achieve what we planed than there is no reason for changes. If not , well..
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,594
#59
Ranieri was never going to be the one who would take Juventus back on the top again.Hell,he wasnt even the first choice to replace Deschamps.Ranieri was always going to be temporary solution.My criticism of him stems from the players that he wants,and the players that he aparently doesnt want.I dont really give a fuck about the Tiago or Almiron situation.The fact is,that Ranieri was never a winner.He isnt a winner right now either.He could stay on for another year,but all he would give us is a regular top 4 finish.Not a scudetto.And Juventus is about scudettos,not a top 4 finish only.You could give him Deigo,Mascherano,Terry,or whoever he wants.Ranieri is simply NOT a winner.This club needs someone who knows what it feels like to hold a trophy in your hand.Not someone whose going to stare at Trophies from the stand.
 

HelterSkelter

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2005
20,594
#60
. A player who goes from "32m" to 12m in a period of 6 months is not worth the money. :crazy:
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Im not a Sissoko fan,but that doesnt say anything about his quality,or the lack of it,as a player.VDV could go for 1m after June,and he's worth around the 10m mark right now.But he is worth the money.The point is,the value of a player does not define how good/bad he is everytime.
 
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