Should Beppe Marotta be sacked? (7 Viewers)

Should Marotta be sacked?

  • Yes - his signings are an embarrassment to the club

  • No - he just got us to the Scudetto and we should see where that takes us

  • WTF - When did we suddenly inherit aching ladyparts like interisti?


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Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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No one is justifying Bendtner's signing. No one.

What you are repeatedly (I don't know if intentionally or not) failing to understand is that there were no realistic options for us to sign a top player, and Marotta should not be held accountable for that. See the fees United signed RVP for, what Bilbao's president asked for Llorente, De Laurentis for Cavani, Viola for Jovetic, etc.
Ok. Keep finding excuses for why he failed. You and I are never going to agree on this matter. Funds should've been made available (perhaps they were and he misused them), and even so there were achievable targets, but he didn't push hard enough, or waited too long. A quality striker was a priority. He was required to buy one, and he failed. That is the bottom line.

When you have a job to do, you do your job, regardless of how you get it done. What you are doing is looking for excuses, and trying to find reasons as to why the man failed. What I am saying is that he failed. He had a job (simple or not, that is not my fucking problem, as I'm not the one getting paid by Juventus to take care of transfers) and he failed to do it.
 

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Klin

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May 27, 2009
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Ok. Keep finding excuses for why he failed. You and I are never going to agree on this matter. Funds should've been made available (perhaps they were and he misused them), and even so there were achievable targets, but he didn't push hard enough, or waited too long. A quality striker was a priority. He was required to buy one, and he failed. That is the bottom line.

When you have a job to do, you do your job, regardless of how you get it done. What you are doing is looking for excuses, and trying to find reasons as to why the man failed. What I am saying is that he failed. He had a job (simple or not, that is not my fucking problem, as I'm not the one getting paid by Juventus to take care of transfers) and he failed to do it.
I stopped reading there.

I'm not going to discuss something with someone who does not agree with facts.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,177
Facts? You want facts?

I'm sorry Klin. I wasn't asking for Aguero, Benzema, or Messi. However, we needed a quality striker, and Marotta failed in getting one. Those are facts. Thank you :)
 

Klin

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May 27, 2009
61,692
Facts? You want facts?

I'm sorry Klin. I wasn't asking for Aguero, Benzema, or Messi. However, we needed a quality striker, and Marotta failed in getting one. Those are facts. Thank you :)
I give up.

Keep telling yourself that and bash the guy for how long you want.
 

Ahmed

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Sep 3, 2006
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RAMI¹⁰;3838450 said:
Ahmed, bro...
We don't expect anything from a 5th striker. But when Marotta fails to bring an excellent forward that he has been talking about all summer, then the least can be done is to sack him.
no doubt he failed in that aspect, he himself has admitted that.

but look at the squad right now, it looks very formidable compared to the crap we used to have before.

looks worthy of doing well in CL even though the FW lineup looks lightweight.

am sure he will do something big in January.
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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It's not that difficult to understand, lioness.

If we win, it's Conte's (and the players') achievement.
If we lose, it's Marotta's fault.

Clear as mud.
To be honest though, if we lose, Conte will get the blame. Not Marotta. Marotta will be the one firing Conte and not the other way around. The coach usually gets the blame for bad results.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,335
Jeez, the bitterness of some people. We won the scudetto last year. Marotta was here too, right? Let's see what happens this year, instead of trying to kill the man before the season has even begun properly.
 

Bufi

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2010
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To be honest though, if we lose, Conte will get the blame. Not Marotta. Marotta will be the one firing Conte and not the other way around. The coach usually gets the blame for bad results.

In TUz, if we win its all by Conte but if we lose then its Marrota's fail.
 
Sep 30, 2006
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Pirlo..Vidal..Lichtsteiner..Giovinco..Asamoah..Lucio..Caceres..Barzagli..Vucinic..Isla supposedly..and all those combined didnt cost more than 60M i guess (the good players he signed i meant)..sack who?
 

baggio

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Jun 3, 2003
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Marotta apologists will continue to apologize for his failures. No one is saying the man should be sacked, well not yet anyway, but he should definitely be held accountable and responsible in his failure to address the team's main weakness. I am pissed that he didn't get us the Top Player in attack, and even more so with the acquisition of that useless lump Bendtner.

I personally feel we should wait and see how the season pans out. However, having said that, I feel Marotta is a limited DS and has taken us as far as he can go, kind of like Ranieri when he was coach here. He might make the squad solid, add depth, but he will never be able to make that quality signing in attack. We need someone with more vision, ambition, and the ability to perhaps be a more fierce negotiator and closer.
He operates like he would at Sampdoria. The only difference is, he has more money to play with. He has absolutely no ambition for this club. Unwilling and unable to play with the big boys, is never going to help take this team to a level it deserves. We have bought, what 30 players in his time at the club?! For all the money we've spent, it's a shame there isn't a star forward in those 30 players. He cannot seal with or for players over the 15, bracket and that is his biggest weakness. Next year, we are going to need only two or a maximum of 3 players, in that category, and he is not going to be able to deal with it, which is why we need somebody with a little more guile. He had 3 years to prove us wrong, yet he repeated the very same mistakes in each of the three years. Dzeko-Quag. Aguero-Vucinic. RVP-Bendtner. Nobody is asking you to bring a top player, you're the one promising it every season. We started needing an LwB and CF, we ended without filling either. Failed mercato for me.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Everyone can seal the deal for players over 15m. It's very easy, Viola want 30 for Jovetic, Dildao want 36 for Llorente. Marotta calls up Agnelli, Agnelli calls up a board meeting and there is a discussion if those funds should be freed. Marotta pleas his case to the board and they decide.
 

Boksic

Senior Member
May 11, 2005
14,302
Difficult to assess how he has done without the facts. Nobody knows the budget that he has been set and it looks like no "top" strikers have been available this window (other than llorente).

Obviously I would love a top player arriving but do not want us to sign a striker for the sake of it, nor do I want us to burst the bank if we do not think we can afford it.

Think we could do with a left back, but I guess they will go for asamoah in 3-5-2 with de Ceglie backup and paolo in 4-3-3 with Chiellini backup. Think we should keep zeigler for backup.

Apart from that I am very happy with the signings and the fact we have kept our best players.

Would be disappointing if he cannot sell quag though
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
I don't think we should renew his contract. Just let it expire and we can get someone else.

The problem is, I don't know who this someone else is. :boh:
The same people he was contending with when we gave him the job. The thing is, we don't know how small DS will make a move to a big club. Marrotta came on the back of qualifying Samp for the CL, but he operates here mo differently sn he would at Samp. His lack of ambition is glaring, and he cannot negotiate or close deals for players in a certain category. Corvino, Marino etc all have a similar background, but god knows what they'll do if given an opportunity like Marrotta has given. It'll all come down to the mentality of the individual. For me, Marrotta is a mid table guy in his head and hasn't quite understood how a club like Juve should function.
 

enzo

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May 14, 2012
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I don't know. The market has changed since Moggi. At the moment we just do not have the money to compete with clubs like City, PSG or Chelsea. I'm pretty sure many transfers failed because of the transfer money, not the wages.
 

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