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Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
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I agree with a lot of what she said. But once again, she's under the premise that a lot of these shootings are based on racism. Instead, that is the easy excuse. Much of the time at least some law was broken. Even the Baltimore incident had a majority of black cops involved with the death.
But most of the time it's both - when a black guy commits some low-level crime and is caught in the act, he's much more likely to get shot than a white guy pulling the same shit.

And in some cases, the man getting shot did literally do nothing wrong at all.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
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I'm talking about racial tensions and divides

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And that is a problem in some instances. But even in the Baltimore case, the mayor and DA were both so passionate and sure about a conviction that it didn't happen because the evidence wasn't there. The police picked up the individual in question because he was breaking the law, something he could have prevented in the first place. Although, he did have something like 20 criminal convictions prior to that, so perhaps it was just his nature. There's no evidence as to what occurred in the police transport.

So the conclusion here is this: stop breaking the law and chances are you will not be shot or killed by police. The whole BLM movement is just another example of how mentally ill this country has become. Instead of fixing the cultural issues the run rampant in various communities, they blame the police who apparently killed less than the number of people who die from bee stings each year -- and that figure includes those breaking the law to begin with. Essentially, the actions of these people are not important, which is similar to a childlike mentality where they have to be rewarded for good behavior. What, Chicago had something like two fucking THOUSAND shootings in the past year from criminals breaking the law, much of which was black on black violence? Yet the cops are solely to blame? Give me a break.

Until folks start taking responsibility for their own actions, this whole discussion is a complete waste of time.

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Like I said before, those in the police that have no probable cause to discharge their firearms should face punishment. Those cases definitely do exist, but they appear to be a minority. Of course if you have a passion for hating a particular group of people you patrol, you probably shouldn't have the job.

On the grand scheme of things, how big of an issue is this, really? Take Chicago for example. 2000 shootings by citizens, or 200 or so across the country by police?
Great post :tup:
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
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I've lost count of how many times you post "great post :tup:" in reply to Andy's and X's posts. So cute.
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Not that I agree entirely with what he says but this makes me wonder how loosely the concept of feeling threatened and defending the self can be used (especially when there's no evidence to suggest otherwise). I couldn't find the article but I remember there was a piece trying to justify IDF's shooting of Palestinian teenagers by giving stats and numbers about the threat these kids may have to the soldiers. Bringing up self-defense concerns in order to avoid prosecution is one thing (i.e., understandable), having that internalized so bad that the smallest and slightest "threats" urges one to fire a gun is another, especially for a person who should feel greater responsibility because of the uniform they wear and the weapon they carry.
 

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Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
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After the Dallas shooting, individuals lined up in front of cops to send a message.



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In Baltimore.

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I've lost count of how many times you post "great post :tup:" in reply to Andy's and X's posts. So cute.
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Not that I agree entirely with what he says but this makes me wonder how loosely the concept of feeling threatened and defending the self can be used (especially when there's no evidence to suggest otherwise). I couldn't find the article but I remember there was a piece trying to justify IDF's shooting of Palestinian teenagers by giving stats and numbers about the threat these kids may have to the soldiers. Bringing up self-defense concerns in order to avoid prosecution is one thing (i.e., understandable), having that internalized so bad that the smallest and slightest "threats" urges one to fire a gun is another, especially for a person who should feel greater responsibility because of the uniform they wear and the weapon they carry.
Soldiers abroad?!? They're no more than bunch of rapist and thugs. Filth.
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
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After the Dallas shooting, individuals lined up in front of cops to send a message.



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In Baltimore.

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Soldiers abroad?!? They're no more than bunch of rapist and thugs. Filth.
Yesterday I was texting one of my relatives in Minnesota, saying that they get offended if someone tells them black American and not Somali American. Is same thing happen in Canada? :D
 

Fr3sh

Senior Member
Jul 12, 2011
37,249
Yesterday I was texting one of my relatives in Minnesota, saying that they get offended if someone tells them black American and not Somali American. Is same thing happen in Canada? :D
Bruuh here Somalis been fucking shit up so bad in Toronto/Ottawa and now Alberta, that anybody can tell who the Somalis are :lol:

They straight can tell who the Somalis is from a group of black kids

We're an arrogant bunch, I get cheesed when someone thinks I'm Sudanese or Rwandese. :lol:
 

Mohad

The Ocean Star
May 20, 2009
6,687
Bruuh here Somalis been $#@!ing $#@! up so bad in Toronto/Ottawa and now Alberta, that anybody can tell who the Somalis are :lol:

They straight can tell who the Somalis is from a group of black kids

We're an arrogant bunch, I get cheesed when someone thinks I'm Sudanese or Rwandese. :lol:
Expected :lol:

And agreed for the bolded part, my cousin would say "I'm not black, I'm Somali" :lol:
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,750
Turns out that suspect wasn't the shooter. Didn't take long for media and individuals to blindly convict the man.....calling him black supremacist and all that bullshit. The man was released from custody.

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Mark Hughes is his name.
Social media is full of retards. Look at the false suspects at the Boston Marathon bombings dug up by those citizen police ekkspurtz on reddit.

I've lost count of how many times you post "great post :tup:" in reply to Andy's and X's posts. So cute.
:lol: It's why we love you, Hoori. :touched:
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I've lost count of how many times you post "great post :tup:" in reply to Andy's and X's posts. So cute.
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Not that I agree entirely with what he says but this makes me wonder how loosely the concept of feeling threatened and defending the self can be used (especially when there's no evidence to suggest otherwise). I couldn't find the article but I remember there was a piece trying to justify IDF's shooting of Palestinian teenagers by giving stats and numbers about the threat these kids may have to the soldiers. Bringing up self-defense concerns in order to avoid prosecution is one thing (i.e., understandable), having that internalized so bad that the smallest and slightest "threats" urges one to fire a gun is another, especially for a person who should feel greater responsibility because of the uniform they wear and the weapon they carry.
Yeah, and?

The three of us agree on a lot which you obviously don't.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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After the Dallas shooting, individuals lined up in front of cops to send a message.



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In Baltimore.

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Soldiers abroad?!? They're no more than bunch of rapist and thugs. Filth.
That's a beautiful picture
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
After the Dallas shooting, individuals lined up in front of cops to send a message.



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In Baltimore.

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Soldiers abroad?!? They're no more than bunch of rapist and thugs. Filth.
Incredible photo. Need to see more like it.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
After the Dallas shooting, individuals lined up in front of cops to send a message.



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In Baltimore.

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Soldiers abroad?!? They're no more than bunch of rapist and thugs. Filth.
Sending the positive message to afro americans :tup:

But does this got into the mainstream media ?
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,750
It's powerful. It's something that's unifying and people can get behind universally. I understand not everyone agreed with MLK's strategy of inclusiveness back in the day and preferred more the Malcolm X model, but it worked.

A major flaw in a movement like BLM is it's exclusivity by its very name: people are excluded from the cause by the nature of their birth. It's gonna be a lot more effective, and less bloody, if police brutality and excessive killing is framed as a human rights thing and not just a blacks-only thang.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Yeah, and?

The three of us agree on a lot which you obviously don't.
1) they are not making as many great posts as you think, nobody is/can, 2) as a person not fluent in English, I may wait for a better writer/speaker to say what i hope to say so I can ditto it, but you're a native speaker, surely you can construct sentences eloquently on your own instead of just hiding behind others, and 3) I say this not because i disagree all the time with what you agree with but because it's weak and annoying imo.
 

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