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[Seven]

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Wrong.

An angry white kid with a stack of $100 bills looking to buy a gun won't have any problem finding a guy in the ghetto to do business with. That kind of shit happens all the time, same ways kids on crack go looking in "niggaville" for their next fix. Money talks and assuming it wouldn't be easy to get a gun if illegal is absolutely foolish.

BUT THEY DON'T BUY IT THERE. THEY BUY IT AT WALMART.

How hard is it to get this?

 

Buy on AliExpress.com

[Hust]

On an average day, 88 Americans are killed with guns.

http://everytownresearch.org/gun-violence-by-the-numbers/

what a retarded analysis: 62% are suicide...so if these maniacs can't find a gun they still hang themselves or pop a full bottle of pills to do the job.

35% are homicides but what this "genius" analysis doesn't seem to say anywhere are how many of these that were homicides happened in the ghetto or in areas where guns were banned.

People act that if guns are banned people that want someone killed will somehow be deterred from doing so instead of finding another weapon.

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BUT THEY DON'T BUY IT THERE. THEY BUY IT AT WALMART.

How hard is it to get this?

Ban it at Walmart they will get them in the ghetto.


How hard is it to get this?

 

[X Æ A-12]

Just saying its not that hard to acquire a gun through underground means even if you aren't little Trayvontius Jackson. it might rule out the autism spectrum kids but you really dont have to leave the suburbs for terriblehood to get one...

 

[Hust]

Just saying its not that hard to acquire a gun through underground means even if you aren't little Trayvontius Jackson. You really dont have to leave the suburbs for terriblehood to get one...

True. You could break into your neighbors house and steal one if someone wanted a gun bad enough.

 

[Seven]

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Ban it at Walmart they will get them in the ghetto.


How hard is it to get this?

Will they? You haven't tried. Clearly it would be very different to head out to the ghetto as an 18 year old white kid with the intent of buying a gun. I bet you'd deter a lot of people that way.

Just saying its not that hard to acquire a gun through underground means even if you aren't little Trayvontius Jackson. You really dont have to leave the suburbs for terriblehood to get one...

Of course it's not that hard, but you'll have another hurdle to overcome. And in this case, the more hurdles the better.

 

[Hust]

Will they? You haven't tried. Clearly it would be very different to head out to the ghetto as an 18 year old white kid with the intent of buying a gun. I bet you'd deter a lot of people that way.

Dude, take DC for example: guns are banned. Have been for some time and the amount of gun violence you see in DC is astronomical. Likewise, this 18 year old white kid in school wanting to kill someone I doubt has an issue walking into a ghetto to ask where to buy a gun. You have the money, people will listen.

 

[Seven]

Dude, take DC for example: guns are banned. Have been for some time and the amount of gun violence you see in DC is astronomical. Likewise, this 18 year old white kid in school wanting to kill someone I doubt has an issue walking into a ghetto to ask where to buy a gun. You have the money, people will listen.

Of course. It wouldn't prevent all cases. But at least you'd have to go somewhere dodgy to get the gun. Risking a serious ass whipping.

 

[Hust]

Of course. It wouldn't prevent all cases. But at least you'd have to go somewhere dodgy to get the gun. Risking a serious ass whipping.

I still think if you are a white kid with a ton of money you can probably buy your way in and out safely. Walking in empty handed is looking for trouble. Besides, I doubt peeps in the ghetto would wanna piss off an angry white kid looking for a gun.

 

[X Æ A-12]

Dude, take DC for example: guns are banned. Have been for some time and the amount of gun violence you see in DC is astronomical. .

Thats kind of a stupid point though when all you have to do is leave the immediate area and you're in fuckin Virginia it's like when people say chicago bans guns but all the surrounding areas dont...

 

[Fake Melo]

what a retarded analysis: 62% are suicide...so if these maniacs can't find a gun they still hang themselves or pop a full bottle of pills to do the job.

35% are homicides but what this "genius" analysis doesn't seem to say anywhere are how many of these that were homicides happened in the ghetto or in areas where guns were banned.

People act that if guns are banned people that want someone killed will somehow be deterred from doing so instead of finding another weapon.

The analysis is based on kids and youth to 19 years old. Every year around 10 000 kids get hurt or die from gun shot wounds.

An eight year old girl got shot and killed two weeks ago by an 11 year old after disagreeing on a puppy discussion. If you own gun and place it somewhere kids can find it you are not eligible to own it.

They might have found that out if they had better gun controls.

I really don't understand people disagreeing with more gun control. How can it hurt you? No one is saying take your guns away, but what's the harm in making it more difficult for a person to acquire guns?

 

[Hust]

The analysis is based on kids and youth to 19 years old. Every year around 10 000 kids get hurt or die from gun shot wounds.

An eight year old girl got shot and killed two weeks ago by an 11 year old after disagreeing on a puppy discussion. If you own gun and place it somewhere kids can find it you are not eligible to own it.

Absolutely.

The numbers can be misleading because a lot of youth die in rough neighborhoods where guns are already ban or they get caught in a crossfire between gang violence, etc.

Parents that are irresponsible should get in trouble for their stupidity.

 

[Fake Melo]

Absolutely.

The numbers can be misleading because a lot of youth die in rough neighborhoods where guns are already ban or they get caught in a crossfire between gang violence, etc.

Parents that are irresponsible should get in trouble for their stupidity.

Yeah, I agree. But let me ask you something, do you think there should be more difficult to someone to acquire a gun? Should there be more control, or is it fine the way it is?

 

[Ocelot]

I really don't understand people disagreeing with more gun control. How can it hurt you? No one is saying take your guns away, but what's the harm in making it more difficult for a person to acquire guns?

Yup, there is simply no serious downside to stricter gun controls.

 

[swag]

Yup, there is simply no serious downside to stricter gun controls.

No, the idea is that the way the second amendment here is is the ultimate, perfect outcome and nothing should dare be touched or changed.

So the mass murders of kids, the rate of homicide by guns, the rate of suicide by guns... these are all the ideal optimized outcomes of policy and so no one should attempt to change anything for fear of making any of this ideal situation worse off.

 

[Seven]

I still think if you are a white kid with a ton of money you can probably buy your way in and out safely. Walking in empty handed is looking for trouble. Besides, I doubt peeps in the ghetto would wanna piss off an angry white kid looking for a gun.

You might. But at least it's more difficult than Walmart. It also helps young people understand that guns are not toys and are not something you can buy at every grocery store.

No, the idea is that the way the second amendment here is is the ultimate, perfect outcome and nothing should dare be touched or changed.

So the mass murders of kids, the rate of homicide by guns, the rate of suicide by guns... these are all the ideal optimized outcomes of policy and so no one should attempt to change anything for fear of making any of this ideal situation worse off.

As an outsider this whole debate is incomprehensible..

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Ban all you want, 3d printers will fuck shit up

 

[X Æ A-12]

Ban all you want, 3d printers will fuck shit up

Good point. Totally forgot that you can get schematics to 3d print assault rifles now

 

[Seven]

Ban all you want, 3d printers will fuck shit up

Society as a whole will change dramatically the next 25 years imo.

 

[Hust]

Yeah, I agree. But let me ask you something, do you think there should be more difficult to someone to acquire a gun? Should there be more control, or is it fine the way it is?

Of course I agree it should be harder. I've said that plenty of times in tired of repeating it. Taking them away altogether is what I don't agree with.

 

[Seven]

Of course I agree it should be harder. I've said that plenty of times in tired of repeating it. Taking them away altogether is what I don't agree with.

Guns for hunting will always be around. Especially in states like Alaska. But handguns for defensive purposes? Not so sure..