Serie B: Vicenza vs Juventus [02-10-2007] (17 Viewers)

engonga

Senior Member
Jul 22, 2005
525
for the first time in my lifei hope juve losts.
i hope we will lost our next two games so this fuckin DD go away with his fuckin tactics,choices,and transfrers.
as i'm sure our team can get the promotion to serie A even without a coach,i hope we can get rid of him now before the beginning of next season because i'm sure that with a coach like him we wont be by any mean near from this fourth place we are planning to have.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
84,786
I'm not ready to have DD's head like some of you, though. The guy screwed up today, but the real telling point will be in how he redeems himself in the coming weeks. That will be telling more than this match.
 

sateeh

Day Walker
Jul 28, 2003
8,020
I'm not ready to have DD's head like some of you, though. The guy screwed up today, but the real telling point will be in how he redeems himself in the coming weeks. That will be telling more than this match.
am not calling for his head, far from it.We shouldnt even think about it.

My problem with him is only the fact that hes not learning from his mistakes. Also he needs to think about the results and finishing up games, instead of just leaving most games(especially away games) open for the opponents to attack us.
 

Joaco

the cronopio
Dec 11, 2005
5,213
DD made a huge mistake today. Change a defender, if he's not injured, it is one of the best mistake ever. A CB always must be focus on the game, ready to act in the most inopportune moment, just like the GK. Anyway, we can't call for his head. He will learn of this mistake, I'm sure.
 
Sep 2, 2004
3,115
for the first time in my lifei hope juve losts.
i hope we will lost our next two games so this fuckin DD go away with his fuckin tactics,choices,and transfrers.
as i'm sure our team can get the promotion to serie A even without a coach,i hope we can get rid of him now before the beginning of next season because i'm sure that with a coach like him we wont be by any mean near from this fourth place we are planning to have
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i agree, this guy sucks in serie b...how he gon be good in serie a?? we have the best squad is serie b and we're still struggling
 

metalhead

Junior Member
Sep 23, 2005
154
Attack is NOT the best form of defence. Thats DD's problem, expecally with Camo's substitution. He might've been forced into changing Chellini but he wasnt forced to put Camo instead of Marcioni. Another DM would've been more helpful than Camoranesi -who usually has a questionable attitute, expecially given that we were winning 2-0 at the time- But he didnt have any options on the bench.

I question DD selections mostly. Why do we need DP, Palladino, Trezeguet, Bojinov, and Zalayeta all in the squad? If we secure a lead, then 2 or 3 players hitting on the counter is more than enough to keep opposition on their toes. At that point our concern should be our defence NOT attack.

Also, DD doesnt come close to Capello. Capello is a winner -like his style or not- while DD is nothing much yet. His case is not helped when he makes 2 substitutions and still doesnt manage to finish off what was a comfortable game for us.
 
Sep 1, 2002
12,745
Motivation was always going to difficult: Seria A beckons, but for most of these players dreams of Scodettos and Champions League games haunt their nights.

Not a bad result, in any case.
 
Jan 7, 2007
865
Attack is NOT the best form of defence. Thats DD's problem, expecally with Camo's substitution. He might've been forced into changing Chellini but he wasnt forced to put Camo instead of Marcioni. Another DM would've been more helpful than Camoranesi -who usually has a questionable attitute, expecially given that we were winning 2-0 at the time- But he didnt have any options on the bench.

I question DD selections mostly. Why do we need DP, Palladino, Trezeguet, Bojinov, and Zalayeta all in the squad? If we secure a lead, then 2 or 3 players hitting on the counter is more than enough to keep opposition on their toes. At that point our concern should be our defence NOT attack.

Also, DD doesnt come close to Capello. Capello is a winner -like his style or not- while DD is nothing much yet. His case is not helped when he makes 2 substitutions and still doesnt manage to finish off what was a comfortable game for us.
When most people say offense is the best defense... that usually doesn't mean sending the defense forward. It means having the midfield & forwards keeping the ball away from the opposition so our D doesn't have to do much work.

Juve's problem today was that the offense took their foot off the gas & let the oppostion come right at them. You'll get burnt everytime.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
the same talking after every match we loose or draw , DD come and say that he is angry that the players did not do what they have to do , the only thing he did not know that he was to blame , the stupid and unexperienced coach makes a stupid sub getting legro the player who did not play for 4 months in to the game and let chellini who gave a very good game in central defense go out , after minutes the defence collapsed , legro did nothing in front of vecenza player in the first goal and i did not see him marking any player in the second goal.

once again i am saying i am not convinced of DD and i will never be , he should be replaced IF we are in Serie A next season , i am saying IF since i am not 100 % sure that we will make it.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
After we were comfortably up 2-0 into the second half, I thought I would come here and just throw out some positives and negatives about the game, and our team.


Now that my idea was blown out of the water by a 6 minute fiasco of errors, I would much rather vent my frustrations with this team, and how, as I've been saying since October, that promotion is in NO WAY a guarantee...

Lets start with the defence. As a whole, it is very shaky. Every time Vicenza came on an attack, our guys looked weak, and disorganized. Every damn time !!! Things got worse when Legro was brought into the game, as I was having flashbacks of his miserable displays of the 2003-04 season. He was 100% responsible for the second Vicenza goal, being completely out of position, and no where to be found. He doesnt belong on our team. Piccolo is young, and inexperienced... but can we afford on-the-job training(mistakes) right now, in such a delicate situation ?? Chellini is being played out of position, and Biri certainly isnt the answer at RB.

My next beef is with our set-piece defense. Do we actually practice this in training ?? I would say no, because it is nothing better than awful !!! We looked like a bunch of circus clowns on every set piece...all we were missing was the makeup !!!

Of course, most of my blame for our misfortunes goes to our illustrious coach DesCHUMPS....this guy isnt qualified enough to lead this team, and he is proving it everytime we blow a lead, or look mediocre against poor teams. It is his job to have these guys MOTIVATED and ready to PLAY 90 MINUTES, and make the correct substitutions according to game situations. He is failing MISERABLY !!!

Our guys came out and played the first half, and part of the second, and just disappeared !! This is where COACHING comes in...case and point- Palla had a good first half, and even scored a goal. Even before we scored the second goal, he became a bit anonymous....wouldnt that have been a good time to bring BOJINOV in ?? I was thinking this, and even more so when Vicenza scored their first goal. That would have been the right substitution. It didnt happen....

Part of the blame also goes to Coboli and Secco....we needed defenders NOW, and they are too busy looking past this season, and planning for Serie A next season. They are going to look pretty fucking stupid if we dont get out of B this season. I dont feel this defense is good enough to get us out of B, and our management team should have realized this as well....splashing out some money for a defender or 2 in January would have been as good as buying an insurance policy


Buffon- made some great saves...couldnt be blamed for the defensive mishaps

Biri- we need a RB

Piccolo- too young and inexperienced for B

Chellini- did what he could playing out of position

Balza- a mixed bag...we need more consistency

Marchionni- he isnt ready to be a starter, IMO

Zanetti- solid in the midfield, but needs a better partner in the middle


Paro- I dont know what everybody see's in this guy...he isnt that good.
IF we make it to A, he would definitely be a bench player

Neddy- always solid, and all over the field...assisted on both goals

DP- quiet for much of the game, and then scores a goal

Palla- he showed that he should be playing as a striker, not a midfielder.
His goal was good, his positioning during the game good, but disappeared
in the second half. Boji should have replaced him

Legro- I feel like throwing up !!!:yuck:

Camo- really didnt make a difference

Trez- not enough time to make a difference

DD- see above. The unemployment line beckons





its when people talk out of their ass without watching the game that pisses me off...

Everyone who thought this season would be a walk in the park are terribly WRONG. I have watched enough of our games to realize that we are in the fight of our lives to get out of Serie B, and NOTHING is assured !!!

i agree vinman , great analysis and the summary is DD sucks :agree:
 

Jem83

maitre'd at Canal Bar
Nov 7, 2005
22,870
We should have learned after Arezzo but obviously we didn't. I'm not calling for his head now but I have doubts whether he's the right man to lead us in Serie-A (if we can get there).

Oh, and Elvin - Wake up early on every matchday from now on, you hear? ;)
 

jukazem

Senior Member
Feb 10, 2007
4,967
Chelini's whole performance went down the drain becoz of DD. If he was to be saved for the nxt game, why was he played in the first place. Tht substitution unsettled the whole defense, its big time he takes the blame n quit at the end of the season (hopefully thts when we'll be in Serie A). DD cant even deal with the Serie B teams n its not like he won ne trophies, as coach, before he came to Juve. I dont see why we shud stick with him.
 

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