Serie B: Cesena vs Juventus [05-06-2007] (4 Viewers)

Mike-e-y

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Jul 18, 2004
11,188
unfortunately matteo your probly right, we have never been a team that sacks its managers and we've always given them a chance to prove their worth, even ancelotti! i hope that when he gets some players that he wants into the squad that he can then stamp his authority on the team, but hes done nothing so far and im not sure if it would be the right decision to take the risk... its an annoying situation to be in!
 

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ZAF3000

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Feb 14, 2005
5,348
We weren't impressive today at all..
BUT what is pissing me off lately is the shit we are taking from the refs. Look at todays match.. Just look how our players were tackled harshly and the opponents got away with most of the tackles without even a warning. This is bad. This s while we are in Serie B, what do you think will happen when we face Inter?
We've been averaging atleast a PK or 2 a game that are not given to us.
Noone ofcourse will mention any of this in the press cause we are the cheaters who deserve shit on ou face.. This is where the management should take a stand.
Some of you might not like them, but the Triade did one thing right that noone can say otherwise on, THEY WERE MEN. With their image they protected Juve alot. I am not talking about manipluating refs. I am talking about proper responses to the press when needed. Whether we like it or not the after the Agnellis past away we were left with noone EXCEPT the triade. Unfortunately they weren't strong enough to protect us against Morratti and Berlusconi for long.

I ask the new management to take a stand. We might be in the Serie B today... But we are always going to be Juventus FC.
 

C4ISR

Senior Member
Dec 18, 2005
2,362
Taking Marchionni off and putting Balza in towards the end doesn't make much sense to me. Taking Nedved off, who can score late winners, and putting on Bianco, is equally confusing. Regardless, we should have been winning by than anyways.
 

Mike-e-y

Senior Member
Jul 18, 2004
11,188
We weren't impressive today at all..
BUT what is pissing me off lately is the shit we are taking from the refs. Look at todays match.. Just look how our players were tackled harshly and the opponents got away with most of the tackles without even a warning. This is bad. This s while we are in Serie B, what do you think will happen when we face Inter?
We've been averaging atleast a PK or 2 a game that are not given to us.
Noone ofcourse will mention any of this in the press cause we are the cheaters who deserve shit on ou face.. This is where the management should take a stand.
Some of you might not like them, but the Triade did one thing right that noone can say otherwise on, THEY WERE MEN. With their image they protected Juve alot. I am not talking about manipluating refs. I am talking about proper responses to the press when needed. Whether we like it or not the after the Agnellis past away we were left with noone EXCEPT the triade. Unfortunately they weren't strong enough to protect us against Morratti and Berlusconi for long.

I ask the new management to take a stand. We might be in the Serie B today... But we are always going to be Juventus FC.
:agree: 100% correct, the triade did a lot for us and they protected our honour, unfortunately we find ourselves in a climate where we are no longer allowed to protect our greatness and we are being victimised, the management is taking this all far too lightly simply as consequence of what may have happened before rather than demanding an equal footing. We have been punished, and far too harshly i must add, the punishment NEEDS to stop now
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
72,692
mike, zala was playing outstanding today

i was reaaally surprised..there was a reason why he didnt take him off..he played very well
Zalayeta ran alot and worked hard. though his passes were awful.


Anyway these are my ratings

Buffon 6.....(saved couple of good chances, should have done more though in the 2nd goal...to jump for the ball atleast)

Biri 4.5....(was slow, bad crosse, bad passes, not good marking, seems like he wasnt in his day at all....everything went just bad)

Legro 5....(looked lazy and cold to me, thought he was ok last couple of weeks, today he wasn't that impressive at all)

Boumsong 5.5...(looked better than Legro and his 2nd half was better than the first one, though he takes the blame in the first goal we conceded)

Chiellini 6...(not a good first half, but his 2nd was pretty great, what i like about him is that he got stamina, he's never tired and rans pretty much alot....whenever cesena players were near him in the 2nd half he was shutting them down)

Marchiso 5.5...(he needs lot of matches to improve, what clear is that the boy plays with heart and spirit, but he needs some experience, maybe serie a will help him a bit....his passes were a disaster tonight)

Marcho 5.5...(should have done better tonight, wasnt bad but wasnt good)

Nedved 6.5...(since not soo many players were outstanding tonight, i'd say pavel was the one. like usually running alot, giving his heart for the team and fighting for each ball...I liked when he saluted the fans before leaving the field:touched:)

Zalayeta 6...(was playing out of position, but was ok, ran alot, tried to start several counter attacks...he needs to work more on his speed acc. and passes, shows he's weak in these)

Del Piero 5.5...(looked angry and mad, you cant blame him though, first 15min 4harsh fouls on him....he had some freekicks didnt use them well, the positive thing is that he assisted Pavel to the 2nd goal.... he needs a goal and he'll bounce back)

Trezeguet 5.5...(didnt see him alot except for the goal)
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
88,000
i am happy to now that zalayeta is trying i never doubted his heart but he just doesnt have the skills we need. i say thank him for trying and sell him, well probly get a huge box of peanuts so we can feed them to urbano and he will suddenly come out of hiding so that he can play for us and score ten goals every game. its a flawless plan!!!!!
 

The Arif

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Jan 31, 2004
12,564
Del Piero 5.5...(looked angry and mad, you cant blame him though, first 15min 4harsh fouls on him....he had some freekicks didnt use them well, the positive thing is that he assisted Pavel to the 2nd goal.... he needs a goal and he'll bounce back)

Good old Rab and his Del Piero bias. :D


Just joking bro, thanks for the ratings.
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,059
pathetic, pathetic, pathetic and even more pathetic......

just read the report on channel 4 and it sounds like we were completely out played for almost the whole game apart from the 5 miniutes we scored 2. and im not suprised in the slightest.

DD is a bumbling idiot that is incapable of making intelligent decisions no matter what situation he is faced with, his first idiotic decision was the choice to play in a 4-3-3, WHAT THE HELL WAS HE THINKING?????? and if you are going to be stupid enough to play that system at least chose the right f***ing players! ZALAYETA and TREZEGUET???? 2 OUT AND OUT STRIKERS???? you cant play 2 out and out strikers in a 4-3-3 it just is not going to work EVER. palla and DP should have supported trez, they are both more than capable to track back and help out the team as well as stretching the opposition defenders with width..... but no, why make a sensible decision when you can just be an idiot??? - DD's theory

the second utterly stupid choice was biri at RB, as soon as i saw him on the team sheet and realised who he was marking then i knew we were in for a long hard night. Papa Waigo has caused us an enormous amount of trouble in all the games we have played against cesena this season, he has absolutely destroyed us down the left with his pace and skill, so who do we send to mark him????? a clumsy old age pensioner who's only link to pace is the pacemaker he had fitted 5 years ago.

dont even get me started on DD's fear of using substitutions during the second half, although i'm sure turning to one of your players and saying "you will have 30 minutes to change this game" is a frightening concept it is something that HAS TO BE DONE to seize the initiative, ESPECIALLY when playing away from home and the lads are struggling, i appreciate that our bench was pretty diabolical but FFS these players are shattered after playing the whole season.

his first sub, was balza who came on for marchionni...... so a defender for a midfielder? leaving us with.... 5 defenders... 2 midfielders... 3 strikers.... when we are struggling like that you need to flood the midfield to keep posession not take people away from it, Zala should have been subbed for palladino and IF marchi HAS to be taken off then boji will have to do a job on the right, then biri should have been replaced by balza. And if your going to make a sub it should be with at least 20 mins of the game remaining, its just demoralising to bring a player on with 10 mins to go, thats what teams do to waste time not make an impact, and FFS when we are away from home... scrap that WE SHOULD ALWAYS FULLY UTILISE THE 3 AVALIABLE CHANGES WE ARE ALLOWED AND NOT IN THE LAST 5 MINUTES!!!!!!


I HATE YOU DD!!!!!!!!!!!!

oh shut up will u? hardly didi's fault that he didnt have a proper dm at his disposal, he took a gamble by playing the only none proper defensive midfielder into that position - being marchisio and thats y we were a little exposed, to be honest to have even come off with a point is sumthing im grateful for with the squad didi had at his disposal
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Mike Da Don has already said basically how I feel...

We were fucking sloppy the whole game, we cannot play a 4-3-3, and DD has no tactical sense

Dont start the celebrations just yet......
 

Badass J Elkann

It's time to go!!
Feb 12, 2006
69,059
Mike Da Don has already said basically how I feel...

We were fucking sloppy the whole game, we cannot play a 4-3-3, and DD has no tactical sense

Dont start the celebrations just yet......
hold on so who else were we suppose to play in the central midfield? nobody cuz marchisio was the only player available who was closest to being considered as a defensive mid even tho hes attacking minded. anyone with a tactical sense wud realise u cant field injured or suspended players, didi had no other choice so quit ur whining and moaning

paro,zanetti,giannichedda, were all out, so who else besides marchisio who yes is not the ideal defensive mid play instead? nedved? zalayeta? oh man some of u need to give didi a break, im sure lippi wud of done the same thing
 

X Æ A-12

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Sep 4, 2006
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i think DD needs a chance next season his so far record at juve has been bad but our squad sucks anyway so we should either get lippi or quit bitching and give DD a chance with a decent team in a decent league
 

Vinman

2013 Prediction Cup Champ
Jul 16, 2002
11,482
hold on so who else were we suppose to play in the central midfield? nobody cuz marchisio was the only player available who was closest to being considered as a defensive mid even tho hes attacking minded. anyone with a tactical sense wud realise u cant field injured or suspended players, didi had no other choice so quit ur whining and moaning

paro,zanetti,giannichedda, were all out, so who else besides marchisio who yes is not the ideal defensive mid play instead? nedved? zalayeta? oh man some of u need to give didi a break, im sure lippi wud of done the same thing
listen Inter lover, he had choices..he should have stuck with the 4-4-2., and played with this lineup-



___________________Buffon__________________

Balzaretti___Legrottaglie___Boumsong____Chiellini

Marchionni____Marchisio____Nedved_____Palladino

__________Del Piero________Trez___________


with this lineup and formation, we wouldn't have looked so sloppy, and would have walked away with 3 points
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
chiellini's 2nd half was very impressive.

DP played like shit today, whether you like him or not.

Legro might try to use his little piece of blue plastic as a disguise, but we all know it's him letting the other team score again.
 

3pac

Alex Del Mexico
May 7, 2004
7,206
You know, I think if we bought Cech and Casillas as back up keepers, cannavaro, nesta, terry, and zambrotta as defenders, gattuso, pirlo, messi, ronaldinho, seedorf, kaka, and deco as midfielders, and a rotation of eto'o, henry, and sheva up top, we would totally dominate serie B

while we're at it, we could invest in paparesta and de sanctis to win serie A as well
 

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