[Serie B] Brescia vs Juventus [03-10-2007] (18 Viewers)
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Yeah, and if Kapo comes back, that'll be good because he adds a bit of depth as a sub (he's not that bad).
I'm not sure what to think of Trezeguet. Starting from about the eighth game into the season, I've had this feeling that he doesn't want to be here. Now, the true colours have started to emerge and he really doesn't want to be here. I don't blame him.
Badass Devil, you said Buffon wasn't playing with spirit? You're an idiot through and through. Just because he didn't make seven spectacular saves doesn't mean he didn't play with spirit or heart or whatever you said. I'm sure subbing Zalayeta in the net would have added more heart to that team, right?
This backline...it probably would've been a good idea to pick up a central defender in the winter transfer window, eh?
I'm not sure what to think of Trezeguet. Starting from about the eighth game into the season, I've had this feeling that he doesn't want to be here. Now, the true colours have started to emerge and he really doesn't want to be here. I don't blame him.
Badass Devil, you said Buffon wasn't playing with spirit? You're an idiot through and through. Just because he didn't make seven spectacular saves doesn't mean he didn't play with spirit or heart or whatever you said. I'm sure subbing Zalayeta in the net would have added more heart to that team, right?
This backline...it probably would've been a good idea to pick up a central defender in the winter transfer window, eh?
Nobody is questioning Mauro's loyality.
I understand that you like the player and he's probably your fav, but there's a diff when someone has a bad game and someone doesn't really feel like running, I've seen several games this season and thats the impression I got about Camoranesi.
But again, I can't blame him as much as we should blame our mang for forcing the player to stay, If It was up to me, I'd let him go without thinking twice. Like I said before and I'll say it again, who doesn't want to play and thinks he's forced to play he shouldn't stay 1 second., we're Juventus, we don't oblige players to stay.
Thats what Mauro said and we all read that, you can't deny the fact that he's not happy with his current team. I'm sure everyone isn't happy about Serie B, but really the situation doesn't really allow us to moan and bitch about it.
I understand that you like the player and he's probably your fav, but there's a diff when someone has a bad game and someone doesn't really feel like running, I've seen several games this season and thats the impression I got about Camoranesi.
But again, I can't blame him as much as we should blame our mang for forcing the player to stay, If It was up to me, I'd let him go without thinking twice. Like I said before and I'll say it again, who doesn't want to play and thinks he's forced to play he shouldn't stay 1 second., we're Juventus, we don't oblige players to stay.
Thats what Mauro said and we all read that, you can't deny the fact that he's not happy with his current team. I'm sure everyone isn't happy about Serie B, but really the situation doesn't really allow us to moan and bitch about it.
i cant wait for vinmans game report, i cant really find a logical explaination to how we went 3-1 today!!!
@rab: u have really good points bro regarding cammo, but i think he did try his best specially before the january transfer window. i have seen nearly all juves game and specially the ones he played and he seemed for active. ithink the biggest mistake our management did was insist that our team was fine with out any reinforcements at this stage. they made me believe i was watching the wrong juventus games!!! i honestly hate our new management i think they dnt know what theyr doing and this will cost us alot in the near future.
@rab: u have really good points bro regarding cammo, but i think he did try his best specially before the january transfer window. i have seen nearly all juves game and specially the ones he played and he seemed for active. ithink the biggest mistake our management did was insist that our team was fine with out any reinforcements at this stage. they made me believe i was watching the wrong juventus games!!! i honestly hate our new management i think they dnt know what theyr doing and this will cost us alot in the near future.
Yeah...
I just read Channel 4's report and it contains huge critics for Zebina...
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/breps27.html
I just read Channel 4's report and it contains huge critics for Zebina...
http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/breps27.html
thats it
I feel honored that you feel honored.
Is that something new though? Camoranesi through the years has often had 'lazy' games(which I of course do not condone). Being in Serie B would add to that effect i'd presume. Also contrary to the previous, in the first half of the season after joining the team later at the start(due to fitness worries), Camoranesi was consistently one of our topperformers. I agree that his recent outings have been poor, but I see that as no reason to go on a crusade against Camoranesi and use his name in profanity so much.
In essence I would agree that we should not oblige anyone to stay, though we were in a very particular situation. We needed to keep hold of some stars, with an eye on the tough upcoming serie b season and the future, if we were eyeing to be the topcompetiters again. Letting Camo leave would've probably also seen Trezeguet and maybe also Buffon leave. Big part of our backbone gone. Deschamps and Secco still argue that they all want to stay now. There were difficulties earlier this season (ironically, when camo played better), but they've all come around and wish to stay.
Anyway this isn't just about Camoranesi. Just the trend and style of this forum, completely burning a player and/or the staff to the ground if he plays a bad match. Trezeguet's been getting so much shit as well. Sure he's not playing his best, but still no reason to call him crap and all. He's been so often and so long so very valuable for us, one would expect a little loyalty to such a player. Even if these players wanted to leave or had left, i'd have hoped for a little decency towards these players. Not this fickle bullshit.
Is that something new though? Camoranesi through the years has often had 'lazy' games(which I of course do not condone). Being in Serie B would add to that effect i'd presume. Also contrary to the previous, in the first half of the season after joining the team later at the start(due to fitness worries), Camoranesi was consistently one of our topperformers. I agree that his recent outings have been poor, but I see that as no reason to go on a crusade against Camoranesi and use his name in profanity so much.
In essence I would agree that we should not oblige anyone to stay, though we were in a very particular situation. We needed to keep hold of some stars, with an eye on the tough upcoming serie b season and the future, if we were eyeing to be the topcompetiters again. Letting Camo leave would've probably also seen Trezeguet and maybe also Buffon leave. Big part of our backbone gone. Deschamps and Secco still argue that they all want to stay now. There were difficulties earlier this season (ironically, when camo played better), but they've all come around and wish to stay.
Anyway this isn't just about Camoranesi. Just the trend and style of this forum, completely burning a player and/or the staff to the ground if he plays a bad match. Trezeguet's been getting so much shit as well. Sure he's not playing his best, but still no reason to call him crap and all. He's been so often and so long so very valuable for us, one would expect a little loyalty to such a player. Even if these players wanted to leave or had left, i'd have hoped for a little decency towards these players. Not this fickle bullshit.
i agree totally rab, its not camo's fault that he was forced to stay but he should still attempt to play his way away from the club.
@Dom- sorry mate am not really having a go at camo, if he wanted to go we should not have stood in his way. what we ahve now is a player that is unhappy with teh club, the teams he is facing and his situaton, it is undoubtadly going to affect his playing state
@Dom- sorry mate am not really having a go at camo, if he wanted to go we should not have stood in his way. what we ahve now is a player that is unhappy with teh club, the teams he is facing and his situaton, it is undoubtadly going to affect his playing state
I think we can all accept defeat from time to time, however the main concern about our away form remains and there are no signs that it's being addressed.
We go into every match knowing that our opposition will be extremely motivated and will show no fear or respect, yet we do not seem able to react to this. I realise it's difficult playing against teams in this manner, but to watch it happen in almost every away match (almost) is unacceptable.
We go into every match knowing that our opposition will be extremely motivated and will show no fear or respect, yet we do not seem able to react to this. I realise it's difficult playing against teams in this manner, but to watch it happen in almost every away match (almost) is unacceptable.
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