[SERIE A] Udinese 2 - 1 JUVENTUS (01/28/09) (7 Viewers)
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if you are referring to me, at least put my name to it
I didnt see the game, only the highlights...or should I say lowlights
I've also read enough here to get a good understanding of what happened
Whether anyone wants to listen or not we are an above average team with a mediocre coach, who will not be adding any trophies to the cabinet this season....sad, but true
There's only 3 days left of the transfer market, and if management was serious about making this team a scudetto or CL contender, than they would have brought in a middie like Diego, and brought in at least one more fullback. If we make no moves on the transfer market than I dont believe this management team is serious about winning fuck-all this season. The team right now is incomplete
I didnt see the game, only the highlights...or should I say lowlights
I've also read enough here to get a good understanding of what happened
Whether anyone wants to listen or not we are an above average team with a mediocre coach, who will not be adding any trophies to the cabinet this season....sad, but true
There's only 3 days left of the transfer market, and if management was serious about making this team a scudetto or CL contender, than they would have brought in a middie like Diego, and brought in at least one more fullback. If we make no moves on the transfer market than I dont believe this management team is serious about winning fuck-all this season. The team right now is incomplete
And when we talked about that I didn't say the opposite. Lippi's Juve was much stronger but at that time we had different objectives, we were coming from a different background, the needs were more demanding and many other factors that needed a stronger squad.
As I also told you once we raise our objectives the team will become stronger, these two go together. I am sure none in the team had the objective to fight for both the Scudetto and the CL but surprisingly we are which makes the team look even weaker.
Nice seeing you taking over from me a bit 
As I also told you once we raise our objectives the team will become stronger, these two go together. I am sure none in the team had the objective to fight for both the Scudetto and the CL but surprisingly we are which makes the team look even weaker.
We're so NOT DOOOMED. 
Yes, Ranieri has doing great jobs to get second place with a lot of our players injury
Even in condition like this Capello, Lippi, or Mourinho must be in hard time when a lot of key players injury
but i want to tell is CR has no character in his tactics and plays
he can't be like Mou, Lippi, or Capello to request the player he needs who fit in his tactic and formation..
I remember he failed when he buy a lot of players like Veron, Mutu, Crespo (Chelsea), Fiore, Corradi (Valencia) and Almiron, Andrade (now)
I remember when Lippi replaced Ancelotti and Zidane go to Madrid in 2001 and Pippo to Milan, he can request player like Nedved, Buffon, or Thuram and we become scudetto again those year
Also with Capello, he can manage to bring Emerson, Ibra, or Canna
If we can compare the money we spent by Capello, Lippi, and CR is almost the same.. Even when Lippi spent a lot of money in transfer but he can manage a lot of money to get by Zidane, Pippo, or Van der Sar sale
but look for now...
the formation we have on midfield: Nedved - Marchi - Momo - MM/Camo is what we have in Serie B.. with Zanetti replaced by Momo..
Also for our defensive line, our best players like Legro - Chiellini is what we have too in Serie B
I imagine if we still with Deschamps who has character and request player based on what tactics or formation he wants to play, might be there will Lassana Diarra in CM and others, better than Andrade, Almiron or Tiago
But our management sacked him
Sorry to be out of topic on this Udine - Juve match
but i really upset week after week when saw Juve played
when there is no replacement for Nedved our great player in the past
or there is no substituted for Camo when he is injured
or when i see our fullback is only average
and i can't stop to imagine if CR and our management realize that
Even in condition like this Capello, Lippi, or Mourinho must be in hard time when a lot of key players injury
but i want to tell is CR has no character in his tactics and plays
he can't be like Mou, Lippi, or Capello to request the player he needs who fit in his tactic and formation..
I remember he failed when he buy a lot of players like Veron, Mutu, Crespo (Chelsea), Fiore, Corradi (Valencia) and Almiron, Andrade (now)
I remember when Lippi replaced Ancelotti and Zidane go to Madrid in 2001 and Pippo to Milan, he can request player like Nedved, Buffon, or Thuram and we become scudetto again those year
Also with Capello, he can manage to bring Emerson, Ibra, or Canna
If we can compare the money we spent by Capello, Lippi, and CR is almost the same.. Even when Lippi spent a lot of money in transfer but he can manage a lot of money to get by Zidane, Pippo, or Van der Sar sale
but look for now...
the formation we have on midfield: Nedved - Marchi - Momo - MM/Camo is what we have in Serie B.. with Zanetti replaced by Momo..
Also for our defensive line, our best players like Legro - Chiellini is what we have too in Serie B
I imagine if we still with Deschamps who has character and request player based on what tactics or formation he wants to play, might be there will Lassana Diarra in CM and others, better than Andrade, Almiron or Tiago
But our management sacked him
Sorry to be out of topic on this Udine - Juve match
but i really upset week after week when saw Juve played
when there is no replacement for Nedved our great player in the past
or there is no substituted for Camo when he is injured
or when i see our fullback is only average
and i can't stop to imagine if CR and our management realize that
I do not know if they are spending the same amount of money but I do not think its very fair to compare Lippi/Capello with Ranieri in terms of team building at this point in time.
Ranieri is building a Juve badly decimated after the calciopoli debacle, he does not have a DP or Neddy or even Trez in their prime like Capello did. And I certainy felt Capello inherited a stronger Juve than both Ranieri and Lippi in his 2nd stint.
When Lippi lost Zidane, he still have a young DP and Trez, a Ferrara/Montero defensive partnership, a Davids/Conte midfield. Neddy, Thuram, Buffon are added with the team structure still firmly in placed ...
Ranieri is building a Juve badly decimated after the calciopoli debacle, he does not have a DP or Neddy or even Trez in their prime like Capello did. And I certainy felt Capello inherited a stronger Juve than both Ranieri and Lippi in his 2nd stint.
When Lippi lost Zidane, he still have a young DP and Trez, a Ferrara/Montero defensive partnership, a Davids/Conte midfield. Neddy, Thuram, Buffon are added with the team structure still firmly in placed ...
one of us ( sorry cuz i can't remember who did) said that lippi's team would kick this team's ass...as rab said about the creativity part..just think about buffon,zebina,chiellini,giovinco,camo,sissoko,del piero,amauri/trez starting up. I want these players to play soon enough..all of them god damn it. We are not giving up this scudetto, we got to believe..inter isn't the inter from the first half of the championship...wait till they play with the big teams....i am sure that they will drop 10 points for sure.
well enoran, we beat roma and milan and firenze..and we draw with lazio and firenze...ain't that bad, it is almost like last year. We play well with good teams..we just need some sparks and motivation with these udinese kind of teams too..btw i cannot tell u how mad i was when i saw that samp scored yesterday 3 goals..motherfuckers...and with inter the only chance they had was in the 90th minute.
Well, Samp had Cassano back last nite and he probably would had made a difference if he had played against Inter, something we may never know ...
Roma and Milan (esp. Roma) seems to have pick up a gear since being defeated by us earlier, so we have a got a tough match at hand the next time the sides meet.
A consolation however, is Inter will face Milan in Wk24 and Roma in Wk26 first and hopefully they will beat the hell out of each other ...
Roma and Milan (esp. Roma) seems to have pick up a gear since being defeated by us earlier, so we have a got a tough match at hand the next time the sides meet.
A consolation however, is Inter will face Milan in Wk24 and Roma in Wk26 first and hopefully they will beat the hell out of each other ...
simply outplayed, udinese knew our offside trap and how to work it, with usually one staying in a innactive offside area, then eg di natale stays in line on the opposite side and a cross ball to him using his pace to defeat it, as you could see in particularly the 2nd goal, but there was no dominance from us, and at times like these i cant understand how we could play so badly yet a meer week ago we outclassed catania, we need to stop choking when we can smell the gold (catching inter at the top) all this talk about scudetto has to stop we have to see the action, yes i applaud ranieri for what he has had to deal with in terms of injuries, dealing with 8/9 first teamers out on average is no easy task for any manager, but the attitude in some games have to change, next we deal with a very tough cagliari side, perhaps the overachievers of this season and we're going have to give the performance of the season to defeat them because i fear another slip up but as i say
"We shouldn't give up tomorrow just to lose it all today"
"We shouldn't give up tomorrow just to lose it all today"
We probably have the cash but we don't have the player (meaning: the player won't be sold by his club in January+ he's cup tied+ we'll need to pay much more in order to make his team even start thinking about selling him in January)
P.S: I don't think anyone in Juve said that we don't have enough cash to buy another player. Actually, i'm 100% sure no-one said that or smthg similar to that.
P.S: I don't think anyone in Juve said that we don't have enough cash to buy another player. Actually, i'm 100% sure no-one said that or smthg similar to that.