this is madness......but silvio berlusconi and massimo morrati will pay whatever it takes to keep inter and milan going,so no worries there..
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Agreed, but there is a deeper problem with their philosophy, and one to which I think Juve needs to be applauded for. Reasonable spending. These teams in question just go for the big names, the flavor-of-the-month, if you will, and just spend like money grows on trees, without any regard for hwo they are going to pay off their debt.
How on earth can Milan and Inter be so far in debt, when their matches constantly sell out?? We're talking 80,000 people per match, yet they are still in the red.
Juventus has developed a different approach. Plain and simple, they've devoted their resources to advanced scouting and player development. They have also brought in players who buy into a team success outweighs personal success system. That's why our players are more willing to take pay cuts than any other team that I can think of. They will bring in a player like Zidane, have him improve his skills while he is here, and the moment he feels he is bigger than the team, then off he goes at a huge profit for the club, to which they sign cheaper, younger replacements who can develop into star players. The only exception to this is Buffon, but world class keepers are harder to come buy than any other position, but to build a great club, you start from the back and build forward, which is what Juve have done. That's probably why we don't see the big money transfers that you see other teams pull off. Sure, we as fans get upset, but what would the final cost be in the long run if Juve decides to spend extravegantly, only to fall into the same trap that these other teams have??
There really is no excuse for these teams to be in such financial trouble like they are, they play in larger venues, have greater attendance figures, and have participated in just as many tournaments as juve have, yet they are on the verge of bankruptcy.
Fiscal responsibility, and a re-structuring of player acquisition and development policies will be the only thing that can save these teams in the long run, not the government bailing them out , again.
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on a more serious note I have to agree with everything you say serge(still getting used to ur name).
altho a part of the reason for the huge debts is the pressure the players have and the responsibility on their shoulders. not just them but even the coaches.
if fans cut the top serie a teams some slack it'd all work out. trust me. that and if eccentrics like sensi and moratti would be sacked.
cuper didnt deserve to be sacked like that, nor do these teams' finances deserve to be fvcked with like that.
its the fault of the fans one way or another. after all, its the fans who influence decisions made by the GM and the board. its the fans who boo players and coaches. its the fans who riot, boycott games, send death threats, attack players and their property, whine, complain, and beotch about everything from the current form of players(sound familiar?), to the fact that the (ex-)manager looks like a pig(sound familiar?)
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Great post. A similar sight in England is Man Utd, who always make a profit. While Man U are more inclined to make a big buy, they put increadable emphasis on their youth policy. Giggs, Scholes, Beckham (yes, he's no longer there, but they made over €30 in his sale), Nicky Butt, Gary and Phil Neville, Wes Browne, John O'Shea, and Darran Fletcher are all youth products. Throw in a couple of judicious buys, and you've an EPL winning side.
Youth players cost nothing, are usually on lower wages (at least until they're successful, at which point they're worth more money anyway), and also buy into the team success over individual success thing. They places you do see them spend money, like on goalkeepers (USA Juventini's point about this position is very valid - Man U have struggled to replace the club legend that was Peter Schmeichel).
Meanwhile, Leeds are effectively bankrupt, and Barcelona are €150,000,000 in debt.
Madrid is slightly differant. Everyone talks about the government bailing them out, but Mdrid just sold them some seriously valuble property (their training ground), which has been redeveloped into four skyscrapers - it was smack in the middle of Madrid's business district! At the same time, I can't defend Madrid's buying policy as it stands. They're spending more than they can seriously afford. The only redeming feature about their new transfer policy is that they want to promote youth products too.
Youth players cost nothing, are usually on lower wages (at least until they're successful, at which point they're worth more money anyway), and also buy into the team success over individual success thing. They places you do see them spend money, like on goalkeepers (USA Juventini's point about this position is very valid - Man U have struggled to replace the club legend that was Peter Schmeichel).
Meanwhile, Leeds are effectively bankrupt, and Barcelona are €150,000,000 in debt.
Madrid is slightly differant. Everyone talks about the government bailing them out, but Mdrid just sold them some seriously valuble property (their training ground), which has been redeveloped into four skyscrapers - it was smack in the middle of Madrid's business district! At the same time, I can't defend Madrid's buying policy as it stands. They're spending more than they can seriously afford. The only redeming feature about their new transfer policy is that they want to promote youth products too.
Don't forget Ajax, who have probably the best youth system on the planet. It's expensive for them to maintain, but it pays for itself. The only problem is that they can't keep enough of their players long enough to build a strong team (in European terms). Just look at their CL winning team, and at the player who were in it. They went everywhere on Bosmans, the scourge of Ajax.
well its not just that. another struggle they face is the profile of their teams. even when ajax won the CL they werent considered a superclub like barca or milan or arsenal. and they arent.
they need to expand financially, status-wise, build an international fanbase, and couple that with european success to truly make a difference.
they need to expand financially, status-wise, build an international fanbase, and couple that with european success to truly make a difference.
Although, I may have to take back what I've said about the Superliga in a couple of years, what with all of these new and redeveloped state of the art facilities that they now have in their major cities.
It's a crying shame that there are only 4 true major league type of stadiums in Italy.
The Delle Alpi
Stadio Olimpico
San Siro.
Bologna's Stadium (forgot the name)
All the others need a serious make-over. I know that Brescia is building a new stadium, but that's Brescia.
And Bari and Napoli don't count because they are so far down the Serie B foodchain, it's despicible.
Italy really needs to do something with some of these stadiums, they're horrid.
It's a crying shame that there are only 4 true major league type of stadiums in Italy.
The Delle Alpi
Stadio Olimpico
San Siro.
Bologna's Stadium (forgot the name)
All the others need a serious make-over. I know that Brescia is building a new stadium, but that's Brescia.
And Bari and Napoli don't count because they are so far down the Serie B foodchain, it's despicible.
Italy really needs to do something with some of these stadiums, they're horrid.
I didn't say it would. It was just a stream of conciousness type of post, because I had mentioned the Portugese Superliga and all of the new stadiums that were built or renovated, and I just find it a shame that's all, that Italy couldn't do the same.
It had nothing to do with the bankruptcy thread that I had...............................
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