[Serie A] Palermo - Juventus (14 Viewers)

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
TBH, that is not true, I give every player criticism when criticism is due, be it Del Piero, Zlatan, Trezeguet, Camoranesi or Buffon.

But fact is that Trezeguet and Del Piero, for example, have very different roles. While it is Trez's job to wait around for the ball, without creating anything himself, it is Alex' job to create something, and more often than not, he fails miserably.

If we draw Del Piero can be blamed for missing an opportunity or two for example, but if we lose we have to blame the defence as well, like tonight. IMO the goal is totally Buffon's fault, he made a mess out of that cross, and IMO there was no need to go after the ball, and if he did he should have done it much better. Also, and I've notice this before, this team has big problems defending set pieces.
I really wish what your saying is right, alot of Pressure on the Captain wont help you know:)...
 

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Zlatan

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Jun 9, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Dp can do alot Don:)...Yes you can laugh or die laughin, but a smart coach knows how to use the best of a player, i don't think capello can use the best of Dp while benching him:)....

TBH, I dont think he can. Like I've said before, Del Piero has lost it, not just physically, but mentaly as well. He doesnt have the courage to go at defenders any more, nor the cockiness to get by them.
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++


And I suppose Trappatoni didnt know how to use him, as well as Ancelotti and Lippi.

6 years have passed since DP's serious injury and he still hasnt regained his form, what makes you think he ever will, especially as he's getting older, more injury prone and physically weaker.

Even Agnelli said that waiting for Alex to regain form is like waiting for Godot.
Wrong, Dp was among the best if you check his status under Lippi, and Under Trappatoni, you google now and check wethear Italy would have Qualified without the Dp's 5 or 6 goals during the qualification:)....if you wanna say anything about the WC02...Just watch the Mexico game again:)
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++



TBH, I dont think he can. Like I've said before, Del Piero has lost it, not just physically, but mentaly as well. He doesnt have the courage to go at defenders any more, nor the cockiness to get by them.
nah, Dp is Class, and i believe Classy players can get back at anytime but not under Capello:)...Only cassano can....
 

Zlatan

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Just watch one game, huh?

OK, maybe I should watch the game against France in the EUro 2000 Finals, or the CL Final against Milan, when Lippi was in charge and DP was "Excellent", or maybe the matches against Barcelona, or the missed penalty against Deportivo that saw us kicked out of the CL, or almost every big match where he has choked...

Thats another thing about him, Del Piero is a choker.
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
Just watch one game, huh?

OK, maybe I should watch the game against France in the EUro 2000 Finals, or the CL Final against Milan, when Lippi was in charge and DP was "Excellent", or maybe the matches against Barcelona, or the missed penalty against Deportivo that saw us kicked out of the CL, or almost every big match where he has choked...

Thats another thing about him, Del Piero is a choker.
yes, he is a choker just like any other great players "Raul, Zidane, Ronaldo, many other great names"
 

Zlatan

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I dont want to compare him to other players, especially not Zidane who scored a fantastic goal in the CL final, or two goals in the WC 98 Final or who was the main player in Euro 2000, but the fact is that Del Piero is a choker.
 

ZhiXin

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Oct 1, 2004
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Capello: Don't panic Saturday 5 February, 2005

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Fabio Capello has urged his side not to get too concerned despite their second defeat on the trot, while Palermo are relishing every moment of their victory.

“We gifted the goal to Palermo after 12 minutes and until that point the game was in the balance,” stated the Juve boss after their 1-0 loss.


“They were very well organised on set-pieces and were able to make the most of the counter-attack in the second half when we poured forward in search of an equaliser.”


This was a more disappointing overall performance than the midweek 1-0 defeat to Sampdoria and alarm bells are ringing, especially if Milan beat Lazio on Sunday evening and cut the gap to just two points.


“We must keep our heads up and look forward,” insisted Capello. “Let us not forget that we are still top of the table and will get ourselves back on track.”


Francesco Guidolin was on Cloud Nine after Palermo’s first League victory over Juventus since 1948-49.


“I think this was the best Rosanero performance of the season so far,” commented the Coach. “We were up against a fantastic team, so we had to raise our game.”


The Sicilians sent a packed out Stadio Renzo Barbera wild with joy after Franco Brienza’s winning goal, especially as goalkeeper Matteo Guardalben barely made a save.


“We dominated the match and deserved to win it. The thing that gave Juve the most problems was our constant pressure in midfield and determination. This is an incredible squad that surprises even me with its achievements.”


Palermo are now temporarily in sixth place and battling for the Champions’ League spots despite playing their first Serie A season in three decades.


“This day will remain in the history books,” said Luca Toni as the Sicilian celebrations raged on through the night.


“After a difficult week, we really wanted to give these fans something to enjoy and we managed it. We’re playing well and must keep our feet on the ground.”

source:channel4.com

Capello urges every1 not to panic.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
I dont want to compare him to other players, especially not Zidane who scored a fantastic goal in the CL final, or two goals in the WC 98 Final or who was the main player in Euro 2000, but the fact is that Del Piero is a choker.
C'mon but still he's a choker, remmber his last one with the barca derby?? I repeat Dp is a choker JUST like any other player, what your saying doesn't make a sence...
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by ZhiXin ] ++
Capello: Don't panic Saturday 5 February, 2005

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Fabio Capello has urged his side not to get too concerned despite their second defeat on the trot, while Palermo are relishing every moment of their victory.

“We gifted the goal to Palermo after 12 minutes and until that point the game was in the balance,” stated the Juve boss after their 1-0 loss.


“They were very well organised on set-pieces and were able to make the most of the counter-attack in the second half when we poured forward in search of an equaliser.”


This was a more disappointing overall performance than the midweek 1-0 defeat to Sampdoria and alarm bells are ringing, especially if Milan beat Lazio on Sunday evening and cut the gap to just two points.


“We must keep our heads up and look forward,” insisted Capello. “Let us not forget that we are still top of the table and will get ourselves back on track.”


Francesco Guidolin was on Cloud Nine after Palermo’s first League victory over Juventus since 1948-49.


“I think this was the best Rosanero performance of the season so far,” commented the Coach. “We were up against a fantastic team, so we had to raise our game.”


The Sicilians sent a packed out Stadio Renzo Barbera wild with joy after Franco Brienza’s winning goal, especially as goalkeeper Matteo Guardalben barely made a save.


“We dominated the match and deserved to win it. The thing that gave Juve the most problems was our constant pressure in midfield and determination. This is an incredible squad that surprises even me with its achievements.”


Palermo are now temporarily in sixth place and battling for the Champions’ League spots despite playing their first Serie A season in three decades.


“This day will remain in the history books,” said Luca Toni as the Sicilian celebrations raged on through the night.


“After a difficult week, we really wanted to give these fans something to enjoy and we managed it. We’re playing well and must keep our feet on the ground.”

source:channel4.com

Capello urges every1 not to panic .

:rolf:
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Zlatan ] ++
And I suppose if Del Piero had played today he would have scored a hattrick, saved a penalty, helped an old granny get to her seat, catched Osama Bin Laden and made a chocolate cake for the players, all by himself?

:howler: Of course.
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Fliakis ] ++


how ****ing ignorant. well he didnt play. and we still lost. tell me, how is trez-zlatan better than any other partnership?
Drunk Fli. Its okay buddy do not worry, everything will be A-okay. :)
 
Dec 26, 2004
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I begin to hate it....
First Capello declared to be happy that we have 8 points margin..
After our lose with Sampdoria he said that we should not forget we r 5 points ahead of Milan...
And now he said we still top of the table !!!!!
What will he say next week??? 1 point margin is not a big deal??
 
Dec 26, 2004
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I think we played a very bad match, I don't care what Capello said about dominating the game if we cannt create dangerous scoring opportunity.....
My rating:
Buffon 6: I don't think the goal was his responsibillity as our deffenders were very bad markers in sit-pieces... and as always when we need him we can count on him...

Zebina 6: most of Palermo's action came from his flank.... But he was OK...

Canna 6.5: not a great match but solid as always ...

Thuram 6: a deffender of his tall should make a better presense in air balls...

Birindelie 6.5: He is not class but every time u play him u know he will give 150%.... I think he was our best player in first half and subbing him wasnt the best decision Capello made...

Tacchi 6: not an impressive match for Tacchi he should work more if he wanna win a starting spot...

Emerson 6.5: the performance of Puma is rarely effected by the presseure of matches.... he win a lot of balls in the middle and rarley lose it... u cannt ask for more...

Zambro 6.5: but him in the left but him in the right he will do the job....

Oliviera 4.5: every touch, cross, free kick he made tell one thing "I'm not MATURE enough" I have said this before and no one seem to agree.... just watch Zlatan's face each time Oliviera play a stupid free kick...

Zlatan 5: Mr. Palermo deffenders success on controlling him...

Trezeguet 4.5: I read in many internet sites that he wil be a starter... i see his name in the match starting lineup... but in the game I couldnt find him and first time I saw him was seconds after the reffere final whistle shecking hands with Palermo players....
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by DelpieroForLife ] ++
I begin to hate it....
First Capello declared to be happy that we have 8 points margin..
After our lose with Sampdoria he said that we should not forget we r 5 points ahead of Milan...
And now he said we still top of the table !!!!!
What will he say next week??? 1 point margin is not a big deal??
:D
 

Maher

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Dec 16, 2002
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It seems this is the start of the fall for mighty juve , samp started it and know palermo and next udinese . i was not surprised at all with the loss, in fact i was surprised how we managed to hold on to 1-0 loss. the team is pathstic , all our players plays separatly , no solid performance , everybody touch the ball want to get rid of it , capello says we were dominating ??????

bye bye scudetto
bye buy CL , i hope next season is better :(
 

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