Zlatan zlatan zlatan, I agree, he had a very bad game, but so did 10 other players today.
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Zlatan zlatan zlatan, I agree, he had a very bad game, but so did 10 other players today.
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TBH, the scoreline doesnt really tell the whole story IMO. We controlled the game in the first half and I was very happy wqith our midfield, especially Vieira, you copuld see how much he brought to the game, but we were unlucky to concede the first goal, due to a Vieira's deflectiona dnChimenti's shitness. We were also unlucky on Kaka's goal as the ball bounced strangely, but that was really the defence's fault, and then we were unlucky again on the last goal, also due to Chimenti's shitness. TBH, they werent all that better than us, they score from the only 3 shots they had I think.
What we did lack tho was a decent attack, we didnt manage to create any good chances, especially Zlatan. Very very poor.
What we did lack tho was a decent attack, we didnt manage to create any good chances, especially Zlatan. Very very poor.
Zlatan problem is very easy to fix, he just needs to get some bench time, then he will realice that he needs to get his act straigth... Zlatan is a great player, but what Capello is leting him uinderstand is that no matter how he plays, he is gonna get the starting place, so he sees that he doesnt have to play well to get a starting place.
Bench Zlatan 1 or 2 games, and then you will see how he will be back on bussiness.
About Nedved, he is probably a diferent case, he is losing his touch, maybe resting him could work, but definitly Mutu needs to start over him.
Andy and Denco, my compliments to you, your post were great, and I agree 100% with you both.
Capello needs to change his system, and start to put to in form players in that starting 11.
Bench Zlatan 1 or 2 games, and then you will see how he will be back on bussiness.
About Nedved, he is probably a diferent case, he is losing his touch, maybe resting him could work, but definitly Mutu needs to start over him.
Andy and Denco, my compliments to you, your post were great, and I agree 100% with you both.
Capello needs to change his system, and start to put to in form players in that starting 11.
yeah but our midfield made some very basic schoolboy errors camo,emerson,zambrotta and thuram were well below par zlatan and nedved were just embarrasing to watch, i dont hate either of then like some others seem to buthave both been awful so far this season and with any other coach they would have been dropped for there own good
Chimenti: When I read he woul play I was sure he would do something wrong.He did EVERYTHING wrong but let's not bash him.We know he can not do better.We simply need Buffon to come back
Pessotto: IMO he was not that bad.I could not find a reason why Capello subbed him.He was not the problem of our game.
Thuram and Cannavaro: Many say thay were not good but I think they were very good.How many shots Inzaghi and Gila did?They managed to stop them.Their onlly fault was the second goal but was not only theirs.
Zambrotta: He will be one of the best again when he 'll play to the left.Every time he tried to cross he turned his body to do this with his left foot.He run,he tried but was innefective
Camo: Did not play well but he is our only creative midfielder and IMO was not a good decesion to be subbed.
Emerson: Bad game.
Vieira: Nerves,fouls,confusion and our best summer buy was out of form today.He was average in defence and nothing in attack
Nedved: I think we will never see the old Pavel back.He had some good runs but his long shots and his passing were not good.We must buy a proper replacement for him in the summer.Sadly
Trezeguet: One touch,one goal.I expected nothing more.His finishing is amazing and we saw that again.He must be always one of the 2 starter attackers
Zlatan: IMO this guy every time he faces a tough defence sees that as a chalenge to prove himself.He did not pass the ball and his dribbles were awful.He must sit in the bench for a while to try harder.We always hear for this great talent and we only see that in the maches against small teams.He is entertaining but I don't support Juve to watch dribbles.He plays well with Sweeden and he does nothing with us in big games.We waited 1,5 years and my patiece is almost over.If he continue to the same way until the end of the championship get rid or him or wait another year to see what he will do.
Chiellini: Average in attack but bad in defence.He complained because he did not play.He took his chances in the last matches and he failed.Let's try Balzaretti.OVER
Mutu: He was average.Capello has to realize that his position is not to the flanks.Last week he was great alongside Trez.Play this guy in his natural position and he will give much!!!
Del Piero: Again we had to wait until the 73th minute to see someone in the pitch who knows to pass the ball.He is our most mature player.Nice passes and movement.We were more dangerous with him.He must start in the next games and be replaced ONLY if he doesn not play well.Today IMO if we had him for the start the things would be better.And I'm not a DP lover for those who think that.
Capello: What to say for this man.In the last matches he looks like amateur.He is stuck with his tactics and doesn't try something new.
Juve:When we will be able to press our opponents hard?
As one said it's a crime to have Vieira and Emerson and not to control the midfield.
Pessotto: IMO he was not that bad.I could not find a reason why Capello subbed him.He was not the problem of our game.
Thuram and Cannavaro: Many say thay were not good but I think they were very good.How many shots Inzaghi and Gila did?They managed to stop them.Their onlly fault was the second goal but was not only theirs.
Zambrotta: He will be one of the best again when he 'll play to the left.Every time he tried to cross he turned his body to do this with his left foot.He run,he tried but was innefective
Camo: Did not play well but he is our only creative midfielder and IMO was not a good decesion to be subbed.
Emerson: Bad game.
Vieira: Nerves,fouls,confusion and our best summer buy was out of form today.He was average in defence and nothing in attack
Nedved: I think we will never see the old Pavel back.He had some good runs but his long shots and his passing were not good.We must buy a proper replacement for him in the summer.Sadly
Trezeguet: One touch,one goal.I expected nothing more.His finishing is amazing and we saw that again.He must be always one of the 2 starter attackers
Zlatan: IMO this guy every time he faces a tough defence sees that as a chalenge to prove himself.He did not pass the ball and his dribbles were awful.He must sit in the bench for a while to try harder.We always hear for this great talent and we only see that in the maches against small teams.He is entertaining but I don't support Juve to watch dribbles.He plays well with Sweeden and he does nothing with us in big games.We waited 1,5 years and my patiece is almost over.If he continue to the same way until the end of the championship get rid or him or wait another year to see what he will do.
Chiellini: Average in attack but bad in defence.He complained because he did not play.He took his chances in the last matches and he failed.Let's try Balzaretti.OVER
Mutu: He was average.Capello has to realize that his position is not to the flanks.Last week he was great alongside Trez.Play this guy in his natural position and he will give much!!!
Del Piero: Again we had to wait until the 73th minute to see someone in the pitch who knows to pass the ball.He is our most mature player.Nice passes and movement.We were more dangerous with him.He must start in the next games and be replaced ONLY if he doesn not play well.Today IMO if we had him for the start the things would be better.And I'm not a DP lover for those who think that.
Capello: What to say for this man.In the last matches he looks like amateur.He is stuck with his tactics and doesn't try something new.
Juve:When we will be able to press our opponents hard?
As one said it's a crime to have Vieira and Emerson and not to control the midfield.
Well, I think that we do deserve some credit after all.
The first goal was an unfortunate deflection, while the second was also luck. The ball bounced around like a pinball, before settling in a perfect position for kaka to net it in. The third one... no comment (i miss buffon :down
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Other than that, the vieira-emerson partnership was solid, considering vieira is just coming out of an injury. He still had major impact in the midfield.
Zambrotta was very good. He would have played excellent as left-back, but hey.
the big problem is that capello still insists that zlatan should start. i do agree that zlatan needs to play a lot, but for me, playing del piero for the last 20mins is an insult to all juve fans. his inspiration and ball control is incredible, and he is a must. as soon as he was out, we were holding the ball down, not just playing long passes like stupid freaks. trez did what he does... score.
anyway, i truly hope we can amend this. its going to be difficult, thats for sure.
The first goal was an unfortunate deflection, while the second was also luck. The ball bounced around like a pinball, before settling in a perfect position for kaka to net it in. The third one... no comment (i miss buffon :down
. Other than that, the vieira-emerson partnership was solid, considering vieira is just coming out of an injury. He still had major impact in the midfield.
Zambrotta was very good. He would have played excellent as left-back, but hey.
the big problem is that capello still insists that zlatan should start. i do agree that zlatan needs to play a lot, but for me, playing del piero for the last 20mins is an insult to all juve fans. his inspiration and ball control is incredible, and he is a must. as soon as he was out, we were holding the ball down, not just playing long passes like stupid freaks. trez did what he does... score.
anyway, i truly hope we can amend this. its going to be difficult, thats for sure.
I sort of expected this result given our run thus far, so I honestly can't say I'm as ticked off as some are here (though perhaps I should be). I perhaps have the delusion that losses provide much more for a team to learn from than victories, and it's better to get your lessons out of the way when they don't matter as much.
To all those who would have started Chimenti over Abbiati in a heartbeat: this is what I was talking about. Neither are adequate first team starters for us. But I will take Abbiati's occasional errors over Chimenti's -- at least Abbiati comes up with more smart saves on average.
Creative midfield. Welcome to our long standing Achilles heel holdover from last season. No surprises there.
Milan absolutely had to win this game for their own self-respect, whereas Juve could afford the loss. Again, I'm not terribly surprised at the result.
Anyway, I will be concerned if I do not see the appropriate winning mentality and momentum heading into this Wednesday's revenge match against Bayern. If we aren't out for blood, then we have some serious problems to address.
To all those who would have started Chimenti over Abbiati in a heartbeat: this is what I was talking about. Neither are adequate first team starters for us. But I will take Abbiati's occasional errors over Chimenti's -- at least Abbiati comes up with more smart saves on average.
Creative midfield. Welcome to our long standing Achilles heel holdover from last season. No surprises there.
Milan absolutely had to win this game for their own self-respect, whereas Juve could afford the loss. Again, I'm not terribly surprised at the result.
Anyway, I will be concerned if I do not see the appropriate winning mentality and momentum heading into this Wednesday's revenge match against Bayern. If we aren't out for blood, then we have some serious problems to address.
posted some days before the game,
well i cant see the future but i know Juve,
Crap does?i wonder honestly,
is this man so blind?
he just sould avoid those traps i was sure he was falling into,
he gives me the impression, i could have done better if i was our coach today,he is very very predictable and everybody knows his flaws,now even crappy ancelotti,the loss and esp the way it happened was exactly what i didnt wanted to see,
Crap an monkey did it again and there are always people who will excuse them...
