Its where the manager needs to motivate the players before matches. we walked on to that pitch having come from a victory against Inter already thinking all we need to do is turn up....job done! WRONG.
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[Serie A] Lecce - Juventus (20/02/2011) (4 Viewers)
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Inter was never a turning point. Like I said to Nick last week when we were talking, it doesn't matter how we are playing because when it comes to playing Inter we always play out of our skins, this week it was back to the passionless and devoid juve. I can't believe how much Lecce were acting like premadonnas yet our players simply let them carry on diving, wasting time ect. Simply no sense of urgency.
Now it will be hard to get motivated for Bologna and even for Milan. It will take a miracle all this to end up good.
We had everything perfect and we ruined it. We simply must have started building on the success and the previous two wins. We had a perfect schedule. 4 "easy" matches against Bologna, Lecce, Cesena and Brescia, with Milan in between. With the right state of mind we WOULD have won all 5 of these and have everything in perfect position for a very strong finish, and even a top 3 chance.
We slipped right away. We didn't have the correct mentality. The players weren't fired up to grab the opportunity. They weren't prepared for it, as if they didn't even know about it.
Just terrible mentality.
We had everything perfect and we ruined it. We simply must have started building on the success and the previous two wins. We had a perfect schedule. 4 "easy" matches against Bologna, Lecce, Cesena and Brescia, with Milan in between. With the right state of mind we WOULD have won all 5 of these and have everything in perfect position for a very strong finish, and even a top 3 chance.
We slipped right away. We didn't have the correct mentality. The players weren't fired up to grab the opportunity. They weren't prepared for it, as if they didn't even know about it.
Just terrible mentality.
At least now we know what the win over Inter means: Absolutely nothing.
Also, could someone explain to me why we go out to play a possession game, knowing full well that we don't have the players to do so?
Buffon - No rating, since I figure that wouldn't make sense. Almost singlehandedly kept us in the game the first 10 min. But he should know better than to make such a challenge so early on in the game.
Sorensen 4 - Poor & extremely uncomfortable.
Barzagli 4 - Sadly, this is how I expected him to play all along.
Bonucci 4 - Not a consistent player, outsmarted too many times.
Chiellini 5 - Positionally & tactically a bad game. But he was one of the only ones who actually tried & cared about what happened.
Krasic -
Melo 5 - Not good, was just as insecure with the ball as Sissoko often is. Still, it could have been worse, I guess.
Aquilani 4 - I am very curious as to what his exact role on the pitch is. Based on games like this, he's not even worth half of what Liverpool are asking for. No determination whatsoever.
Marchisio 5,5 - Well, at least he tried. Got the feeling that he recovered more balls than Melo & Aqui put together.
Matri 4,5 - Lively, but poor.
Toni 3,5 - Amauri- esque.
Storari 5,5 - Saved what he could, but also tried to mess up what he could.
Del Piero 5 - Almost dangerous. Emphasis on almost, sadly.
Iaquinta 3,5 - Useless.
Del Neri ? - I honestly don't know what to make of this.
Also, could someone explain to me why we go out to play a possession game, knowing full well that we don't have the players to do so?
Buffon - No rating, since I figure that wouldn't make sense. Almost singlehandedly kept us in the game the first 10 min. But he should know better than to make such a challenge so early on in the game.
Sorensen 4 - Poor & extremely uncomfortable.
Barzagli 4 - Sadly, this is how I expected him to play all along.
Bonucci 4 - Not a consistent player, outsmarted too many times.
Chiellini 5 - Positionally & tactically a bad game. But he was one of the only ones who actually tried & cared about what happened.
Krasic -
Melo 5 - Not good, was just as insecure with the ball as Sissoko often is. Still, it could have been worse, I guess.
Aquilani 4 - I am very curious as to what his exact role on the pitch is. Based on games like this, he's not even worth half of what Liverpool are asking for. No determination whatsoever.
Marchisio 5,5 - Well, at least he tried. Got the feeling that he recovered more balls than Melo & Aqui put together.
Matri 4,5 - Lively, but poor.
Toni 3,5 - Amauri- esque.
Storari 5,5 - Saved what he could, but also tried to mess up what he could.
Del Piero 5 - Almost dangerous. Emphasis on almost, sadly.
Iaquinta 3,5 - Useless.
Del Neri ? - I honestly don't know what to make of this.
Zero grit, Zero determination, and no commitment whatsoever. Such an apathetic and lackadaisical display. Many of these players don't realize what it means to wear a Juventus shirt. How many shots on goal did we have today?
Such an alarming and disgusting display; Del Neri needs to be decapitated for his incomprehensible subs, nonexistent tactics, and defeatist mentality. Real Madrid had Casillas sent off after 2 minutes last week, and yet went on to dominate their opponents, play the better football and win the game. A red card, whether it is early on or not, is not an excuse for defeat. We are supposed to be Juventus ffs, which implies that the players need to give their all, in 11, 10, or 9 men, for the entire 90 minutes and whatever additional time is played.
The only positive to take from all of this is that we are more likely to win our next 2 games before our next defeat (since we are probably going to struggle to win 3 in a row for the remainder of the season)!
Such an alarming and disgusting display; Del Neri needs to be decapitated for his incomprehensible subs, nonexistent tactics, and defeatist mentality. Real Madrid had Casillas sent off after 2 minutes last week, and yet went on to dominate their opponents, play the better football and win the game. A red card, whether it is early on or not, is not an excuse for defeat. We are supposed to be Juventus ffs, which implies that the players need to give their all, in 11, 10, or 9 men, for the entire 90 minutes and whatever additional time is played.
The only positive to take from all of this is that we are more likely to win our next 2 games before our next defeat (since we are probably going to struggle to win 3 in a row for the remainder of the season)!
I think DN never heard of TURN-OVER.
we paid for playing the same line-up that was used vs Inter.
Iaquinta should be fucked by every juventino, he doesn't have the motivation to play anymore, he is just fucking lazy
this is the second time in row he is on the field and he is just bad
ffs let Krasic get some help and use him in the second half, he is our most dangerous player but he is tired and need some rest.
and he can be lethal vs tired players
one of Marchisio and Aquilani should be rested.
or just change the fucking 4-4-2 formation cause its just useless against minnows
we paid for playing the same line-up that was used vs Inter.
Iaquinta should be fucked by every juventino, he doesn't have the motivation to play anymore, he is just fucking lazy
this is the second time in row he is on the field and he is just bad
ffs let Krasic get some help and use him in the second half, he is our most dangerous player but he is tired and need some rest.
and he can be lethal vs tired players
one of Marchisio and Aquilani should be rested.
or just change the fucking 4-4-2 formation cause its just useless against minnows
totally agree, and DN dont stop shouting but they don't even look at him. he doesn't have strong enough personality, Juventus is just too big for him. we need someone as big as Lippi-Capello.
some people will disagree with me about it because we dont have strong enough players but well... we are much stronger than lecce. but we still get owned and doesnt have single shot on goal
some people will disagree with me about it because we dont have strong enough players but well... we are much stronger than lecce. but we still get owned and doesnt have single shot on goal
I don’t expect much from a team busy in the process of cleaning its own home
We got rid of some pathetic players but we still hold a big bunch of them
Iaq, Martinez, Momo, Grygera, Luca, Storari, Motta,Traore,Grosso,Lanzafame,Salihamidzic
Fuck, that’s a quite long list
Agnelis family are not living their best days
a lot of financial problems and that’s why the above mentioned players are still wearing Juve's shirt
and that’s why we have a director like Marotta and a coach like DN
And on the other hand, Juve have spend more than 240 Million over the last 4-5years:luckyluke:
I don’t see us playing in CL next year
actually i don’t want to see Juve get humiliated and thats why i don’t want to see them in CL next year
Actually i dont think Juve will be able to do any better than what they did last season, if not worse, hmmm they are already doing worse
We got rid of some pathetic players but we still hold a big bunch of them
Iaq, Martinez, Momo, Grygera, Luca, Storari, Motta,Traore,Grosso,Lanzafame,Salihamidzic
Fuck, that’s a quite long list
Agnelis family are not living their best days
a lot of financial problems and that’s why the above mentioned players are still wearing Juve's shirt
and that’s why we have a director like Marotta and a coach like DN
And on the other hand, Juve have spend more than 240 Million over the last 4-5years:luckyluke:
I don’t see us playing in CL next year
actually i don’t want to see Juve get humiliated and thats why i don’t want to see them in CL next year
Actually i dont think Juve will be able to do any better than what they did last season, if not worse, hmmm they are already doing worse
I understand your point, and yes sometimes our players are capable of doing some good things. But in sports, when you are in a big game situation, many times you play out of ur mind, better than you generally would, and outdo yourself even, when you are playing against a team that you perceive as better than you. Many times in my own life experience in tennis and football, you play down to the level of shit teams, and you play up to the level of better teams, because there is less pressure, if we lose to Inter people wont be like OMG U LOST TO A RELEGATION TEAM, and we are somewhat underdogs, so we have less pressure, a ton of motivation cuz its Merda or Milan, and we play great. But once its not one of those few big games. We are garbage, cuz when it comes down to it, the team is average, and an average team every once in a while gets rly motivated and does special things. A league is about consistency, something this team will never have, because we are not a good team. Just average players who try hard on special occasions.