[Serie A] Juventus v Roma (9 Viewers)

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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Holdon said:
This match says alot about the 2 managers, and what they did with the different resorces available to them.
and whats that? we played 45 minutes with 10 men. we where close to win the game, well it didnt happen, but roma pushed more and it was obvious a team who has more players will attack more.
 

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L'autista
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Well, after Neddy's first half sendoff, I think this was the ultimate result we were all afraid of... and expecting.

Did we look like a team ready to take on Arsenal? Far from it. But then this was a match where we should have rested a few stars, and ultimately we really weren't able to.

For the record, Roma blows. I mean seriously. How this squad actually won 11 consecutive matches is a freak of science, because every one of their players on the pitch today looked like they were playing for a relegation-battling club, but without having any of the motivation of a relegation. Why the hell is Perotta on the Italy NT? Without Totti, or Cassano or Montella for that matter, I couldn't tell the difference between AS Roma and Empoli. Mancini is their only worthy player on the pitch these days, and Zambro largely shut him down -- he was practically invisible in this match.

And Dacourt? A week after Roma's entire front office goes sucking their own wankers over how much De Rossi's fair play gesture exemplifies the spirit of Roma, here we had a guy who was down and injured, no he's back up, and, "Ooh -- Juve have possession and are advancing?" -- he is suddenly overcome again with injury after not being touched by anyone and cannot go on.

Nedved -- you've been so instrumental for us of late. Why the idiotic fouls? I thought you learned something when you missed the CL Final in '03 with a stupid foul. But I cannot lay the blame fully for the lost points on him. We may have come out in the second half looking surprisingly aggressive in Roma's half with 10 men, but our attack had no teeth and was laughable. And by putting Balza in back in for Trez, we were obviously playing the waiting game -- flipping the coin between 3 and 1 point for the outcome of this match.

Ultimately, giving away the corners a man down did us in. Just really disappointing.

Buffon - A couple of good saves. Can't blame him much for the goal. 6

Thuram - Good speed to get back. Generally good match. 6.5

Canna - Some great stops. No major mistakes. I hate to call him MOM, but he's my best option. 7

Zambro - A mixed bag. Big points for essentially taking Mancini out of this match. But he turned the ball over in a dangerous position in the first half, and he didn't mark his man close enough for the Roma goal. 6

Chiellini - Wasn't distastrous, as I half expect these days. He added little on attack and took a lot of fouls. 6

Camo - I was hoping for some better penetration on the wing and better crosses from him. Otherwise, he had an unusually decent day at the middle of the pitch. 6

Emerson - Nice goal. And I always get worried when this team relies on Emo to press forward and contribute more in attack ... always a bad sign. 6.5

Vieira - OK at ball control, but some of his passes were off. Better than usual of late, but then consider the competition. 5.5

Nedved - Good ball movement and pace. But the silly fouls killed us. On that alone, you get the anti-man-of-the-match. Fortunately we're only playing Treviso next. 4.5

Del Piero - Barely in. NR

Ibrahimovic - Some good, unselfish pass choices for a change, but his execution of them was all wrong. Nice shot on goal that was blocked by Roma at close range. Not effective with possession. 5.5

Subs:

Trezeguet - Added little, but didn't get a lot of touches. Not half bad with the ones he had, but missed target. 5.5

Balzaretti - Weaker ball-handling, but made a small impact in defense. 6

Mutu - No chance to even see him. NR

Capello - Played not to lose -- didn't play to win. And we got exactly that. Balza for Trez sub sealed our fate for really ever scoring again in this one. And why Mutu so damn late in this match? 4.5

This Scudetto race is not over yet, folks...
 

zizoufan

Z.Z T h e M a s t e r
May 25, 2004
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Stephan said:
so dp is injured, mutu has to play nedved position. our only sub striker is zalayeta.


this doesnt look good anymore at all

is the injury of delpiero is really serious ?
if it's true then it's ibra or zalayeta time to prove something for juventus
 
Sep 14, 2003
5,800
Cronios said:
I red the some comments just before the Werder games,
but we werent any hungrier when we had to be,
i hope we wont run out of excuses again...

I share your concerns, but we must wait until after the 2 games to make any judgement on Juve, afterall, playing Arsenal, IMO, should get the team more motivated than playing against Bremen.
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
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THE CHAMPIONS said:
Just so u all know I am one of the few members here who always supported Capello all the way & I also defended him A LOT! BUT against Arsenal no mistakes are allowed ,we cant go there & play like this,where is Juve's spirit,we cant go there with this defensive mentality.Something has to be done!
Once more....
He changed his mentality because nedved got a red card, not because he wanted to play like that. I'm sure against arsenal he will play with an attacking mentality. Don't worry!
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
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Stephan said:
so dp is injured, mutu has to play nedved position. our only sub striker is zalayeta.


this doesnt look good anymore at all
I m really concirned man,I was always positive but I m afraid that we could be heading to London to lose by lots of GOals!
 

THE CHAMPIONS

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Jan 18, 2006
1,281
Juve_25 said:
Once more....
He changed his mentality because nedved got a red card, not because he wanted to play like that. I'm sure against arsenal he will play with an attacking mentality. Don't worry!
Man,we didnt even play one conter attack,we were so fuckin slow,we had no spirit,VIERA SUCKED,he cant even control a ball,we had no personality on the pitch.The thing is that Roma were so BAD,they missed Totti,Nonda,Monteall,De Rossi,Chivu.We could have even tried when we were ten.What was Chiellini doing on the left wing,why not putting Mutu to support Zlatan a little.Something is wrong Man!
 
Sep 14, 2003
5,800
Stephan said:
and whats that? we played 45 minutes with 10 men. we where close to win the game, well it didnt happen, but roma pushed more and it was obvious a team who has more players will attack more.

Did you see 10 man Liverpool easily brush aside Everton today (3-1)?
 

Juve_25

Senior Member
Jan 3, 2006
1,316
THE CHAMPIONS said:
Man,we didnt even play one conter attack,we were so fuckin slow,we had no spirit,VIERA SUCKED,he cant even control a ball,we had no personality on the pitch.The thing is that Roma were so BAD,they missed Totti,Nonda,Monteall,De Rossi,Chivu.We could have even tried when we were ten.What was Chiellini doing on the left wing,why not putting Mutu to support Zlatan a little.Something is wrong Man!
I know and I understand you. But my point is that we don't needed spirit for this match, instead we need a lot of spirit against arsenal. IMO is that against Arsenal its going to be a completely different match.
 

Joaco

the cronopio
Dec 11, 2005
5,213
THE CHAMPIONS said:
Man,we didnt even play one conter attack,we were so fuckin slow,we had no spirit,VIERA SUCKED,he cant even control a ball,we had no personality on the pitch.The thing is that Roma were so BAD,they missed Totti,Nonda,Monteall,De Rossi,Chivu.We could have even tried when we were ten.What was Chiellini doing on the left wing,why not putting Mutu to support Zlatan a little.Something is wrong Man!
Viera play good for me. He cut some passes.
I don't know what the fuck are you talking about, and, dude, we are thinking in arsenal.
 

zizoufan

Z.Z T h e M a s t e r
May 25, 2004
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Juve_25 said:
I know and I understand you. But my point is that we don't needed spirit for this match, instead we need a lot of spirit against arsenal. IMO is that against Arsenal its going to be a completely different match.

From now on I would love to see a great juventus :agree:
let's start with the arsenal game
 

THE CHAMPIONS

Senior Member
Jan 18, 2006
1,281
Juve_25 said:
I know and I understand you. But my point is that we don't needed spirit for this match, instead we need a lot of spirit against arsenal. IMO is that against Arsenal its going to be a completely different match.
Hope so Man,I was really positive for the game in London but after this game,I fell that smthing is Just aint right!
 

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