[Serie A] Juventus - Sampdoria (September 12, 2010) (1 Viewer)

[tpain]

i really don't understand why is it so hard to buy a good fullback at juventus.....

and stop buying the italians...they arent that good...there isnt any good italian fullbacks these days...zambrotta was the last great fullback italy produce

 

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[tpain]

lol at the poll, I hardly have commented on the match, much less negatively. It's pretty much a "people I don't like" list from whoever did it.

Anyway, we need Amauri fit, asap. A forward pairing of Quag Iaquinta is too ordinary and Del Piero can't play more than 15 or 20 minutes. For the left back, given our situation let's give Traore a try, he can't be worse than De Ceglie...

hahaha i dont think it is a "people i dont like list" because i am not in it.

 

[Nenz]

I don't know how you could say that this isn't an improvement on last season. The attitude is 100% better going forward we just need better players and more discipline at the back. Two of the goals conceded pretty much came to poor man marking from Motta. If it weren't for a few poor individual performances there wouldn't be so much dissatisfaction.

Positives -

Melo is finding his feet.
Krasic looks amazing. This guy had BIG potential. Just needs to work on his fitness and shooting he'll be raping defences for the full 90 minutes.
Quagman is providing something we've been missing we just need a CF now.
The whole team is actually getting the ball forward, we look dangerous for the first time in a long time.


Negatives -

Motta is a liability defensively. He didn't take that knock till midway through the second half. He just can't man mark he has no physical presence. I understand that we were tryaing to give Cassano more freedom and shut down his targets instead but Motta still had a part to play and Melo and Bonucci were helping him out time and time again.
DC was also pretty shit.
DP was slow and lifeless. I really do think we should be using him as a sub.
Where was Marchisio? Didn't do much except for that excellent strike.
No effective attacking happening down the left.


All in all what we lack, and what's stopping us from fulfilling our potential is:

- A CF to put away those crosses.
- Full backs. I thought Motta might have been good and I'm not going to panic too much but he looks rubbish defensively.
- Diversity in our attacks. Most of the danger in the second half came from Krasic on the right and some nice runs forward through the middile from Melo and again Krasic. But we don't use the space on the wings enough and on the left we just don't have dangerous enough players. Pepe's passing and crossing leaves a lot to be desired.

All in all I'm relatively pleased minus the loss.

 

[V]

The win was lost with the subs and changing our complete gameplan in the dying minutes. I can understand Del Neri taking our best player in Krasic out, he really looked tired. But he really shouldn't have taken out Pepe. He should have brought on Lanzafame for Krasic and swapped Lanza and Pepe's sides. Aquilani for Marchisio and Iaq for DP. Keeping DP for the whole match was a criminal decision.

 

[chester]

Saw the match yesterday, attacking play looks ok, but the defence
Bonucci - Chiellini isn't working (yet).
Maybe a Chiellini - Legro partnership and Bonucci or Grygera on the right would be better.
DC was decent, not good but better then Motta.

And Melo, oh boy, the mistakes he made in the beginning could have costed us the match.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Entertaining & very open game, quite different from what I expected beforehand. I'm not exactly pleased with the result, but I did see some promising stuff out there.

The new guys seem to be settling in quite well & fast, the team plays with a lot of heart & effort. And, most importantly, we are already a lot less predictable going forward than we were last season. Too bad that our actual attack isn't all that at the moment.

On the other hand we also conceded 3 goals which is a very clear indicator that there's still a shitload of work to be done when it comes to concentration & organization. Nice attacking play is all fine & dandy, but when you're this vulnerable at the back, you're not going to get anywhere. Serious lack of balance & the Sampdoria players were allowed too much time on the ball in the middle & up front, which is were a player like Sissoko might have come in handy...


Storari 6,5 - A few good saves. I don't think he could have done much about the goals.
Motta 4 - Are we absolutely certian this guy is a defender? Yes, he's decent going forward & he has a sweet cross, but a fullback's first priority should be defending.
Bonucci 6 - A few niggles here and there but mostly good.
Chiellini 6,5 - Good game overall, some nice anticipation at times.
De Ceglie 6,5 - Remarkably comfortable game for him. Held his own at pretty much all times.
Krasic 7,5 - Very slow start but improved throughout the game. Very promising, but obviously not a killer in front of goal.
Marchisio 6,5 - Excellent goal, decent game but nothing spectacular.
Melo 6 - He was mostly good, but there are always a few moments when he starts messing about. I fear that he's still somewhat of a liability.
Pepe 7,5 - Massive performance. Very smart game, dangerous up front & well aware when going back.
Quagliarella 5,5 - Very involved & tried hard. Most of the things he did were quite poor though. Smart positioning & thinking for his goal, I guess.
Del Piero 5,5 - A few nice touches, but mostly slow & sluggish.

Grygera - Not on the pitch long enough to judge, but a necessary sub if I have ever seen one.
Aquilani -
Iaquinta -

 

[Nenz]

Marchisio 6,5 - Excellent goal, decent game but nothing spectacular.
Melo 6 - He was mostly good, but there are always a few moments when he starts messing about. I fear that he's still somewhat of a liability.

Marchisio did shit all the entire game you could barely notice he was there. Melo did far more.

 

[Zidaninho]

People are judging Krasic to not have a Killer instinct infont of goal as though the best strikers in the world haven't ever missed one on one's.

 

[Azzurri7]

Zidaninho, did you mix up Algeria for Brazil? You know they're both different countries in different continents.

 

[Zidaninho]

Zidaninho, did you mix up Algeria for Brazil? You know they're both different countries in different continents.

Missing Beirut?

Are you an Arab Italian wannabe?

 

[Azzurri7]

Yes.

No.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Marchisio did shit all the entire game you could barely notice he was there. Melo did far more.

Marchisio was a lot less noticeable, that's true. Unlike Melo though (in the 1st half especially) he didn't assist Samp with their attacking play.
Plus, Marchisio scored at a critical point in the game, right before half time.

People are judging Krasic to not have a Killer instinct infont of goal as though the best strikers in the world haven't ever missed one on one's.

And if said "best striker" misses said chance, he would be criticized as well.



Reading through the thread though, I realize that I saw things differently from most. Excluding Motta, the individual performances of our defenders really weren't that bad imo, but there seem to be some balance issues. And, let's face it, a complete lack of protection from the midfield at times.

 

[Zidaninho]

Marchisio was a lot less noticeable, that's true. Unlike Melo though (in the 1st half especially) he didn't assist Samp with their attacking play.
Plus, Marchisio scored at a critical point in the game, right before half time.




And if said "best striker" misses said chance, he would be criticized as well.



Reading through the thread though, I realize that I saw things differently from most. Excluding Motta, the individual performances of our defenders really weren't that bad imo, but there seem to be some balance issues. And, let's face it, a complete lack of protection from the midfield at times.

1. Wth is "said"
2. Ibra missed a penalty for Milan - is he a bad striker or one of the best in the world?

 

[noussa]

i watched this game with my friend who by chance an arsenal fan boy....this is our conversation:

arsenalfanboy: who the fuck is your LB?
me: Paolo de ceglie...an italian youngster
arsenalfanboy: jesus dude....he suck like hell, can he play football?or at least a footballer?
me:...........
arsenalfanboy:didn't you guys buy our player Traore?
me:yeap actually we do
arsenalfanboy: well use him for god sake...replace that amateur!traore is young and going improve game by game if you give him a chance. he is good on attack, fast, can pass and he can defend his side better than that loser but the most important is...he is a footballer, he can't do much worse than you guy ceglie
me:...........

 

[Buck Fuddy]

1. Wth is "said"

You could for example say "the aforementioned best striker" instead of "said best striker". It refers to something that was said earlier, in this case your post about the best strikers.

2. Ibra missed a penalty for Milan - is he a bad striker or one of the best in the world?

Oh, I didn't realise I called Krasic the worst winger / player / Nedved impersonator / Serbian ventriloquist earlier. My bad.


Ffs, read what people post instead of fabricating some conclusion. Krasic missed a one on one. It happens. But I'll still criticize him (or anyone else for that matter) for it since he should have done better in that moment.

 

[JuveBoy]

Marchisio did shit all the entire game you could barely notice he was there. Melo did far more.

Indeed, Marchisio was really bad. Melo was very good. Question: where is Sissoko? Sissoko and Melo will be great

 

[Zidaninho]

Zidaninho, did you mix up Algeria for Brazil? You know they're both different countries in different continents.

Btw - Algeria, France and Portugal are in quite close proximity to one another - figure that one out.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

there were only two non-great things about the game
-everything juve did before their first goal
-keeping del piero till the end

 

[Nenz]

Marchisio was a lot less noticeable, that's true. Unlike Melo though (in the 1st half especially) he didn't assist Samp with their attacking play.
Plus, Marchisio scored at a critical point in the game, right before half time.
.

Far too much emphasis on his giving away the ball once or twice. I would have prefered that he had the ball and made a few mistakes during what was a pretty solid performance then him barely playing a part in the entire game except for one 'right place right time' goal. If Melo played the same sort of game Marchisio had played then we would have been much worse off. That's why those ratings make zero sense.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Far too much emphasis on his giving away the ball once or twice. I would have prefered that he had the ball and made a few mistakes during what was a pretty solid performance then him barely playing a part in the entire game except for one 'right place right time' goal. If Melo played the same sort of game Marchisio had played then we would have been much worse off. That's why those ratings make zero sense.

For you they might make zero sense, for me they make a lot of sense. But like I said, I realise that I saw things different from most.

If Melo played the same game... : Fair enough. But you can use the "if" in more ways than one.

If Sampdoria capitalized on one of Melo's mistakes we would have been down 0-2 (or even 0-3) after 40 minutes.
If Marchisio missed his chance (not an easy one at that) we may have never gotten back in the game.
If Melo wasn't so adamant on slowing up play numerous times we might have hurt Samp on the break.
If ...