[Serie A] Juventus - Lazio (17 Viewers)

[PhRoZeN]

Why he left us anyway???
Let's bring him back!!!!

Well he originally left us as vialli lured him to chelsea. Also I think it may be down to us not really caring. Not really sure but I would certainly love to have him back at Juve, he may just help to reshape our old guards and certainly teach capello a thing or two. I dont know whose our current fitness coach but this guy pintus was known for his strictness he pushed the team right to the limit and TBH you could always tell he has some sort of influence on the pitch.

Well I was kind of right then, Pinto/Pintus. And he DID work at Monaco, so I was kind of right there too .

Yeah you certainly was right.

 

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[giovanotti]

Well he originally left us as vialli lured him to chelsea. Also I think it may be down to us not really caring. Not really sure but I would certainly love to have him back at Juve, he may just help to reshape our old guards and certainly teach capello a thing or two. I dont know whose our current fitness coach but this guy pintus was known for his strictness he pushed the team right to the limit and TBH you could always tell he has some sort of influence on the pitch.

Capello obviously has his own ideas.

 

[Bisco]

well lippi really was Mr Juve and you see in the "club" atmosphere he has brought to the italian national team that his greatest strength, above even his great tactical nous, was his ability to man-manage players. he made playerd want to play for him, for juve and for the fans. lippi teams played with heart and passion, something we are sadly lacking at the moment. capello on the other hand has made it clear from the outset that he is already looking for his next "project" so that will not install any great belief in the players that he is part of a long term plan to bring glory to the club. also his handling/ mis-treatment of del piero will be causing resentment with the other players. though in all fairness alex has shown great dignity in his handling of this and showing why he should be in the team with his performances this season

:toast: respect bozi superb post!!!!!!!

there is sth that has to be said about lippi or as u like to call him Mr Juve note the difference in reaction between capello and lippi. lippi is always standing on the line giving out instructions calmly i have never ever seen him shout or yell ( both during hard times and easy times he was always calm and the only explanation for that was to make sure his fears and tensions did'nt get on the field with his players so that they can concentrate andgt off the pressure and instead of worrying they would giv everything till the end). u never saw him fight with another player unlike capello and ibrahimovic during the trevico game. when a player leaves the field he is always there to congratulate him and tell him he was terrific and this adds up to morals. sth i will never forget for this legend and he truly is a legend when juventus where playing madrid in 02/03 del piero missed a scoring chance the ball went over the post can any one imagine what lippi's reaction was?????????????????? this was ashocker for me he actually got up to the line and was clapping and supporting him to do his best. sth else also in this game thurum dribbled past zizo but eventually the ball was taken from him lippi clamly told him not to over dribble and just play forward and u can see thurum taking the instructios with a smile and very polite manner.
now this is lippi if it was capello in his position this is exactly the scenrio that will occur: u will be seeing him yelling, fighting and does nothing to change the current mistakes ( never learns the bloody lesson, the english taught us a lesson twice in a row and yet we were tooooooooo thick to learn anything). regrding del pieros shot i can bet on 10000000 pounds he wouldve substituted him instantly and sent in ibrahimovic. u never heard of a problem between lippi and a player i felt they all were friends infact best friends, he respected them and gave them support and faith in themsleves and they in retun respected this calm quite man!!!!!!! honestly lippi is one of the best things about juventus and i personnally favour him to any one who came or will come to juventus and will always use him as a standard to compare between others who will come to manage juventus.
to summarize this man is a man with a spirit of a true juventini and he had the ability to have the players live with this spirit on and off the field. remeber man utd vs juvenuts ion 02/03 we lost and we did not lose 2-0 like aresnal but 3-1 (if im not mistakened) and then with a touch of magic the team morale roared and they toke on barca, real madrid, and reached the finals why??????? bec he talks to the players he charges them up the players get on the field and they have victory in there mind as if they were brain washed in the locker room!!!!!!!!!!!forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa juve forzaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Mr Juve!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
forever respect.

 

[Dominic]

Capello obviously has his own ideas.

Lippi didn't use Pintus either(in the latter years anyway), and in 03/04 we certainly seemed to have some fitness issues as well. You may well remember we had tons of injuries and a lot of tired legs in 2004.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Lippi didn't use Pintus either(in the latter years anyway), and in 03/04 we certainly seemed to have some fitness issues as well. You may well remember we had tons of injuries and a lot of tired legs in 2004.

I agree we certainly didnt seem fit enough then and TBH we never have been as much. Pintus has had fair bit of success even tho I dont know whether fitness coach get medals too but won chelsea FA cup and cup winners cup and not forgetting suprisingly helping monaco to the CL final under with deschamp.. so yeah weve had problems since his gone and although it may not seem that obvious to the board or the manager we certainly need to do something about it soon or later. If we dont bring him in then we should bring staff who may provide better fitness to the players.. although to a certain extent I dont blame the players now especially as capello has played the same lot week in week out.

 

[Bisco]

what really hurts me to see is the fact that juventus cant recover now from a pitiful 2-0 loss!!!!! it was harsh on every one including us but under a good coach and a good team amangement they should've been out of it maximum a game or two after aresnal not lasting till this moment with nothing but poooooooooooooor preformance ( tbh poor is not the word i want to use but to mind my language and to respect the rules of this forum i kept it to my self but u get what i am trying to say). seriously we r having morale problems, tactical problems, player exhuastion and to top all this a media silence that i consider a massive mistake done.
why is it a mistake?
answer: it shuts off any comments from the team to the public and the public in this case are juve fans like me, u and all the millions who love this team during the good and bad games. its like a mystery no one knows what was the coach thinking after the game or what he has on my mind for the next encounter. it causes loads of specultion u hear people say there is a problem between ibrahimovic and the rest of the players, u also hear stuff about fights in the locker room and loadsof crap tjhat may be true or might not be in the end. u cant put yr hands on a real tactic or in other words plan on how the players will reach the title and how they will seal it its sooooooooo secretive they beat the cia in keeping secrets off the public eyes.
this has to change, capello shuld sit witht he players and talk about the current run ask if there are problems they want him to solve sth about his mean, cheap , and insane personality that they feel he has to change. i bet cammo has a lot to say to him, i bet del piero has a lot of things he would love to say every time he is substityued on the bench and every time hee never gives 100% credit to the players who really deserve it.
we just need a win against lazio and wait and see juventus and how they will roar back into action i guarntee it but we just need to find that lost win one more time !!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Stephan]

Ofcourse not,he saved the pk!

but dp went

 

[giovanotti]

Lippi didn't use Pintus either(in the latter years anyway), and in 03/04 we certainly seemed to have some fitness issues as well. You may well remember we had tons of injuries and a lot of tired legs in 2004.

Yes I remember,Birindelli,Zambrotta,Tacchinardi,Montero,Miccoli,Di Vaio,Trezeguet(injured shoulder)....all injured for the second game against Deportivo 2004.

 

[Dominic]

I agree we certainly didnt seem fit enough then and TBH we never have been as much. Pintus has had fair bit of success even tho I dont know whether fitness coach get medals too but won chelsea FA cup and cup winners cup and not forgetting suprisingly helping monaco to the CL final under with deschamp.. so yeah weve had problems since his gone and although it may not seem that obvious to the board or the manager we certainly need to do something about it soon or later. If we dont bring him in then we should bring staff who may provide better fitness to the players.. although to a certain extent I dont blame the players now especially as capello has played the same lot week in week out.

Yup, Capello's constant use of the same team costed us in the end. I read an article somewhere today, i'll try to dig it up later; it was about how most of Capello's teams usually tend to cave in at the end of the season, how he loses his grip on the performances in the closing stages.

Yes I remember,Birindelli,Zambrotta,Tacchinardi,Montero,Miccoli,Di Vaio,Trezeguet(injured shoulder)....all injured for the second game against Deportivo 2004.

Yeah and I beleive Del Piero got injured at the start of the second leg against Deportivo. As well as other absentees such as Maresca and Tudor, though I think Miccoli, Tacchinardi and Di Vaio(I remember how he was called offside about 50 times in that match) weren't injured. We had a lot of injury problems with different people throughout that season.

That all being said, let's not hype this Pintus fellow up to some god as honestly we (I in any case) don't really know what's up in the fitness training at our club.

 

[giovanotti]

Yup, Capello's constant use of the same team costed us in the end. I read an article somewhere today, i'll try to dig it up later; it was about how most of Capello's teams usually tend to cave in at the end of the season, how he loses his grip on the performances in the closing stages.




Yeah and I beleive Del Piero got injured at the start of the second leg against Deportivo. As well as other absentees such as Maresca and Tudor, though I think Miccoli, Tacchinardi and Di Vaio(I remember how he was called offside about 50 times in that match) weren't injured. We had a lot of injury problems with different people throughout that season.

That all being said, let's not hype this Pintus fellow up to some god as honestly we (I in any case) don't really know what's up in the fitness training at our club.

True Del Piero got injured at the start of the match!

 

[sateeh]

we dont wat happens behind closed doors, mybe all the stuff thats happening is discussed between the players,coach, and management.This team isnt that foolish to let this matter go without even sitting the team down and discussing it.

And guys every manager has style of management, lippi stay calm in every situation but cap has a different approach.

i agree that this guy has failed to install the spirit in this squad, and that is a a real problem cuz a a big percent of this club's success came from the player's desire and grit and cuz they always play with their heart.Cap certainly has the ability as his roma team played their heart out in some games. So i dont know why he didnt use the same approach here at juve.

 

[JCK]

Yup, Capello's constant use of the same team costed us in the end. I read an article somewhere today, i'll try to dig it up later; it was about how most of Capello's teams usually tend to cave in at the end of the season, how he loses his grip on the performances in the closing stages.

Isn't that what happened with him and Roma the last season he was there? This problem stems from his cowardness and the fact that he does not trust players but the ones he likes.

 

[Juve_Kosova]

Yup, Capello's constant use of the same team costed us in the end. I read an article somewhere today, i'll try to dig it up later; it was about how most of Capello's teams usually tend to cave in at the end of the season, how he loses his grip on the performances in the closing stages.

This is the problem we have right now.. And its all Capellos fault.. Not the Players..

 

[Dominic]

Isn't that what happened with him and Roma the last season he was there? This problem stems from his cowardness and the fact that he does not trust players but the ones he likes.

To a certain extent, as I remember us getting closer to Roma in the closing stages of that season, despite us having been totally out of the competition at that stage.

 

[giovanotti]

alright i agree with the bit regarding capello not doing a great job with motivating and calming down the players but i strongly disagree with the bit regarding cammoranesi. i think he is a very strong player who plays with great spirit he reminds me of maraseca ( how he was a true juventini). i can understand he is acting rubbish but for heavens sake what would u expect him to do when he knows capello is showing him the door and other players who are preforming rubbish never get any fines or wont be transfered an example is ibrahimovic i mean cammo at least tries to do sth for the team he plays his best and in the end he gets fined and is set to leave juventus at a time ibrahimovic does not even care about playing and u find capello praising him and denying any rumours of his exist this summer. i am sick of capello's love story with ibrahimovic its coming on expense of the entire team morale.
mark my words " we will regret leaving cammorensie go this summer i am sure we will regret doing that as much as we regreted leaving miccoli, marascea, di vaio, zidane, and davids"

Damn right juve_ruler!!!

 

[Juve_25]

What happened to Trezeguet?

 

[JeanGuy]

Hey! Sup guys! I'm new here.

Any pre-formations for the match?

 

[Juve_25]

Hey! Sup guys! I'm new here.

Any pre-formations for the match?

Hi! Welcome!

Is too soon to predict a formation. Anyway its going to be something very similar to Fiore's match. Buffon, Zambrotta, Cannavaro, Kovac (Thuram), Chiellini; Cammo, Blasi (Emmo), Vieira, Nedved; Del Piero, Ibrah (Trez).

 

[Maher]

What happened to Trezeguet?

the same in every year , he reach the peak in scoring and then suddenly he is injured for a long time

 

[Brixity]

It's still so painful that Milan-Barca is considered a spectacle whilst a game like Juve-Barca will never be at the moment