[Serie A] JUVENTUS 3-0 Cesena (September 24th 2014) (5 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

Capelli looks like one of those league two shitcunts

They really are terrible, I would have liked to see Magnusson get some game-time, but good luck with negative, provincial idiots like Bisoli in charge.

I suppose their theory is that they will scrape points off teams around them, and Bisoli has done a good job there to be fair, but there needs to be a big swing in form between them and their opponents for them to beat anyone with a bit of quality. Just as well for them that so many in Serie A are inconsistent.

 

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[Elvin]

Start Morata.

 

[JuveJay]

Game was yesterday, bro.

 

[Elvin]

oops wrong thread

 

[Alex-444]

Cirico

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Just finished watching this. This is how we should play against bigger teams, pressuring them and when on possession, quick and direct passing. Cause it's just too easy to do it against weak adversaries who will sit deep and won't fight back. Cesena was our bitch from the get go.

One thing is worth saying though, this is definitely not Conte's Juventus. It's pretty clear why Allegri is more successful in Europe as this was like watching a non Serie A team vs. a Serie A team. That lethargic slow-build up Juve was nowhere to be found.

Giovinco, as always, does good against a shit team but when it really matters he always disappoints.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

I'm sure he's been up all night refreshing the poll

I have visual evidence of this

 

[Mark]

I'm sure he's been up all night refreshing the poll

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I have visual evidence of this

 

[he_is_legend]

Just finished watching this. This is how we should play against bigger teams, pressuring them and when on possession, quick and direct passing. Cause it's just too easy to do it against weak adversaries who will sit deep and won't fight back. Cesena was our bitch from the get go.

One thing is worth saying though, this is definitely not Conte's Juventus. It's pretty clear why Allegri is more successful in Europe as this was like watching a non Serie A team vs. a Serie A team. That lethargic slow-build up Juve was nowhere to be found.

Giovinco, as always, does good against a $#@! team but when it really matters he always disappoints.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Just finished watching this. This is how we should play against bigger teams, pressuring them and when on possession, quick and direct passing. Cause it's just too easy to do it against weak adversaries who will sit deep and won't fight back. Cesena was our bitch from the get go.

One thing is worth saying though, this is definitely not Conte's Juventus. It's pretty clear why Allegri is more successful in Europe as this was like watching a non Serie A team vs. a Serie A team. That lethargic slow-build up Juve was nowhere to be found.

Giovinco, as always, does good against a $#@! team but when it really matters he always disappoints.

That's why I said I had shivers when thinking about us going to Calderon with 352 a month ago. The style has changed though and with it there's some hope for a good result. Now I just hope Allegri won't back off our team to sit deep in defense like Conte did. If Juve plays higher and faster there's a good chance for us to proceed from the group stages without too much trouble. If Allegri won't make the players feel like underdogs we actually stand a chance.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

our results will depend on our 2 glaring weaknesses: 1. solidity of our CBs 2. sharpness of our finishing

 

[Hust]

Cesena was so bad.

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YEs, I watched the game. Why?

I was just saying they weren't that good, it actually had nothing to do with your post.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

That's why I said I had shivers when thinking about us going to Calderon with 352 a month ago. The style has changed though and with it there's some hope for a good result. Now I just hope Allegri won't back off our team to sit deep in defense like Conte did. If Juve plays higher and faster there's a good chance for us to proceed from the group stages without too much trouble. If Allegri won't make the players feel like underdogs we actually stand a chance.

Yep. Read X's comment below that's right on the spot.

our results will depend on our 2 glaring weaknesses: 1. solidity of our CBs 2. sharpness of our finishing

I'm still unsure about both tbh. I think we lack better finishing and our defence is YET to face a strong offensive force that will force us to play on our own half. That will happen in Europe and how we react to it will be key to our progression in that tournament.

 

[LiquidPLP]

our results will depend on our 2 glaring weaknesses: 1. solidity of our CBs 2. sharpness of our finishing

Yep. Read X's comment below that's right on the spot.



I'm still unsure about both tbh. I think we lack better finishing and our defence is YET to face a strong offensive force that will force us to play on our own half. That will happen in Europe and how we react to it will be key to our progression in that tournament.

Both are good points but my main concern was the attitude. Of course I'm not downplaying things you guys mentioned. As for defending I see it in much better colors now that we play higher up the pitch and start defending on opponents half with pressing. It makes life harder for any team in the World, on the other hand CBs aren't exposed as much because Juve's defending starts much higher up the pitch and faster after we lose possession.

As for finishing, that's a whole different story. It's good we're playing in higher tempo overall, it'll definitely help. Slow motion build up play doesn't help in creating good goalscoring opportunities.
Maybe Allegri would have to make a change to 4321 or drop Llorente and put Morata who is much more faster and mobile (if he proves to be good enough), but that's just a thought, a lot has to happen before trying it out actually. My feeling is that we won't go above some level with the 352 and Pirlo and Llorente in the lineup. Not to a top class European level anyway.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Just finished watching this. This is how we should play against bigger teams, pressuring them and when on possession, quick and direct passing. Cause it's just too easy to do it against weak adversaries who will sit deep and won't fight back. Cesena was our bitch from the get go.

One thing is worth saying though, this is definitely not Conte's Juventus. It's pretty clear why Allegri is more successful in Europe as this was like watching a non Serie A team vs. a Serie A team. That lethargic slow-build up Juve was nowhere to be found.

Giovinco, as always, does good against a shit team but when it really matters he always disappoints.

Yes, exactly. It's so refreshing not seeing us painfully grind through the same slow motion moves again and again until we wear teams down.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Yes, exactly. It's so refreshing not seeing us painfully grind through the same slow motion moves again and again until we wear teams down.

Which (almost) never worked in Europe. There's still a lot of room for improvement though.

 

[Pirlo's Beard]

Yeah undoubtedly. We're still lacking pace in our starting XI tbh and we'll probably still be too reliant on Licht to double up as a Winger and do too much of our attacking.

 

[swag]

Start Morata.

Street Morata

 

[Tanu_Mz]

Can't remember this one, wasn't born then.

So how many people were at the stadium, were the ultras crazy like in the 90s?

The old Comunale used to be pretty packed up, I remember one game vs Standard Liege when there were like 3 people standing squashed on one big stone step. The Ultras were way crazier then today. I see if I can find old pictures, will have to dig into the drawers at my parents house to find something.

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@swag @JCK rejoice. you ugly asses aren't the oldest things on the form anymore. say hello to this ancient relic from the past.



all joking aside, it's nice to have an older memeber with some more perspective on Juve in the 80s that hasnt "watched tapes"


*looks at zach*

does it mean I have to act like the old wise man and all that crap? :facepalm2:

I am a rather unusual bloke, let alone a very unusual Italian, left home at 19 married in London at 24 became a father at 26 ...
As far as the perspective on the old Juve, I saw my first game when I was 3 years old, my Inter supporting uncle took me to San Siro (my parents still live 500 yards from the Stadium) trying to turn me into interista. We lost 3-0, I cried like hell and uncle realized there was no way he'll convince me to switch sides (unusal Italian, as I said).

Seriously, I'd be happy to talk to you young lads about some of my heroes.
My favourite was Gaetano Scirea as I am a Gaetano myself and I played libero as a child. I watched over and over again the tapes to study and learn his movements, he was like a God descended on Earth for me. I also loved his approach of a true gentleman of this sport, never sent off in his career, never argued with anyone but at the same time feared and respected by all.
He is sadly missed and I am getting goosebumps just writing these few notes.

 

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