[Serie A] Juventus 2-2 Lazio [May 16th, 2022] (16 Viewers)

[Boksic]

HE DIDNT, HE EVEN STOPPED HIS RUN FFS

It was a pure luck that the ball went that way so he was able to sprint and to shoot it

He's on his toes and positioned himself well to react. Pellegrini is flat footed and drifted into the middle.

It is like you have never played the game, if you are defending and have an attacker next to you at LB with a centre back in a decent position in the middle you concentrate on not allowing the attacker to get in front of you in case there is a cross/shot or deflection.

You say about predicting where the shot goes. As I said before he doesn't need to, he just needs to position himself well to defend the ack post and be aware of the attacker behind him. Even if he did want to predict where the ball would go it is a shot across goal, there are only 2 places it is likely to go. The most obvious is the back post via the momentum of the shot off the keeper or off the far post. The second most likely place is the middle if the keeper gets more of a hand to it but De Ligt is relatively well positioned for that.

 

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[Juventino[RUS]]

A decent comment.
He has many faults this season for sure, but the state of our squad negates all of our supposed conclusions.
We have progressively become worse since Ronaldo joined and that is a fact.

He has failed to deliver because of his unwillingness to change in the first place, Juventus had a roster that was more than enough to fight for scudetto.

 

[Badass J Elkann]

A decent comment.
He has many faults this season for sure, but the state of our squad negates all of our supposed conclusions.
We have progressively become worse since Ronaldo joined and that is a fact.

BTW according to pedulla the club just redeemed kean for 38 million.
You can start laughing now and blame Allegri next year when kean misses chance after chance.

38 fucking mill... fucking spent the Kulusevski money wisely there then!

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

He's on his toes and positioned himself well to react. Pellegrini is flat footed and drifted into the middle.

It is like you have never played the game, if you are defending and have an attacker next to you at LB with a centre back in a decent position in the middle you concentrate on not allowing the attacker to get in front of you in case there is a cross/shot or deflection.

You say about predicting where the shot goes. As I said before he doesn't need to, he just needs to position himself well to defend the ack post and be aware of the attacker behind him. Even if he did want to predict where the ball would go it is a shot across goal, there are only 2 places it is likely to go. The most obvious is the back post via the momentum of the shot off the keeper or off the far post. The second most likely place is the middle if the keeper gets more of a hand to it but De Ligt is relatively well positioned for that.

He went closer to Perin to kick the ball away after the save was made in case of the rebound, defenders ARE ALWAYS supposed to do it to avoid tap in goals jesus christ by your logic he should have stayed near savic, right? And then savic would have scored even an easier tap in

 

[kappa96]

He has failed to deliver because of his unwillingness to change in the first place, Juventus had a roster that was more than enough to fight for scudetto.

No it doesn't. There are currently only 4 or 5 player worthy enough to start for Juventus.(excluding Chiello and dybala).
De Ligt cuads loca Chiesa and DV7, maybe Zakaria.
The rest, bench options at best and a bunch of trash players.

 

[JuveJay]

For Allegri's cultists there is a scapegoat in every single match. Always the players - never the coach.

Why does it have to be either? We switched off because it's the end of the season for us and we gave some young players some minutes. Lazio had something to play for.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

No it doesn't. There are currently only 4 or 5 player worthy enough to start for Juventus.(excluding Chiello and dybala).
De Ligt cuads loca Chiesa and DV7, maybe Zakaria.
The rest, bench options at best and a bunch of trash players.

Vlahovic was turned into Amaurovic
Rabiot as left wing midfielder
Murdered Kulusevski's career here
Wanted Chiesa to be the defending midfielder
They gave him pure DM Zakaria and he decided to turn him into the b2b player
No freedom for fullbacks to do overlap runs
433 with Dybala and Morata as RW and LW
an endless desire to play with regista despite not having one - hernanes, pjanic, bentancur, rabiot, arthur
Allegri 21/22 is a complete failure and a walking disaster.

 

[kappa96]

Vlahovic was turned into Amaurovic
Rabiot as left wing midfielder
Murdered Kulusevski's career here
Wanted Chiesa to be the defending midfielder
They gave him pure DM Zakaria and he decide to turn him into the b2b player
No freedom for fullbacks to do overlap runs
433 with Dybala and Morata as RW and LW
an endless desire to play with regista despite not having one - hernanes, pjanic, bentancur, rabiot, arthur
Allegri is a complete failure and a walking disaster.

A ain't even going to bother to say what's wrong with your post, but this made me lol.
As if we have fullbacks to do overlapping runs.
For example, Pellegrini overlapped so hard today that he forgot SMS was near him for their second goal.
Sandro overlapped so hard that he scored an own goal.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

A ain't even going to bother to say what's wrong with your post, but this made me lol.
As if we have fullbacks to do overlapping runs.
For example, Pellegrini overlapped so hard today that he forgot SMS was near him for their second goal.

So you keep on lying

 

[kappa96]

So you keep on lying

You keep showing me that Pelegrini likes de Ligt's butt.
He should have switched his sight to sms butt, but Allegri prevented him.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

You keep showing me that Pelegrini likes de Ligt's butt.
He should have switched his sight to sms butt, but Allegri prevented him.

You are absolutely deluded so he should have turned around and look at Savic instead of lookin at the player with the ball it's a new low even by allegri's cultists standards

 

[Boksic]

He went closer to Perin to kick the ball away after the save was made in case of the rebound

The less likely scenario and as I said as a full back your job is to watch the back post, particularly when there is an attacker behind you and a defender in the middle.

Every goal has a mistake and it is usually at an individual level from multiple players. This was the same. We over committed too many players when attacking, Cuadrado loses the ball very cheaply when if it wasn't a completely meaningless game I'd want him to run to the corner, Bonucci and the midfield have a chance to make a tactical foul but choose not to, Bonucci backs away and allows a shot without blocking, De Ligt and Pellegrini don't position themselves well to play an offside trap, Pellegrini follows the ball into the middle, stops defending the far post and doesn't keep track of SMS.

If you want to blame the coach too, we had too many kids on and over committed players forward. But let's be honest it ws a meaningless game in the 95 minute..

 

[kappa96]

You are absolutely deluded so he should have turned around and look at Savic instead of lookin at the player with the ball it's a new low even by allegri's cultists standards

Of course he should have looked at the player with the ball, because the player that shoots can actually hit his head from there which, in turn would have made him look at sms butt, which would have prevented sms goal.
Butt Allegri failed to transmit that to Pelegrini.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

The less likely scenario and as I said as a full back your job is to watch the back post, particularly when there is an attacker behind you and a defender in the middle.

Every goal has a mistake and it is usually at an individual level from multiple players. This was the same. We over committed too many players when attacking, Cuadrado loses the ball very cheaply when if it wasn't a completely meaningless game I'd want him to run to the corner, Bonucci and the midfield have a chance to make a tactical foul but choose not to, Bonucci backs away and allows a shot without blocking, De Ligt and Pellegrini don't position themselves well to play an offside trap, Pellegrini follows the ball into the middle, stops defending the far post and doesn't keep track of SMS.

If you want to blame the coach too, we had too many kids on and over committed players forward. But let's be honest it ws a meaningless game in the 95 minute..

Because that's what he was supposed to do as a player that was closer to Perin, in case of a "bad" rebound he was supposed to kick the ball away and it was a pure coincidence that the ball perfectly rolled out onto the trajectory of Savic's movement, if lazio player will make another 1000 of the same shots then the ball will fly off on a different trajectory from Perin's hands lmao, how can you blame Pellegrini for not predicting the rebound trajectory is beyong my understanding

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Christ, so it was a ricochet from his leg? Even here he was incredibly unlucky

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But no, let's jump on Pellegrini because of how lucky Savic was

 

[kappa96]

Because that's what he was supposed to do as a player that was closer to Perin, in case of a "bad" rebound he was supposed to kick the ball away and it was a pure coincidence that the ball perfectly rolled out onto the trajectory of Savic's movement, if lazio player will make another 1000 of the same shots then the ball will fly off on a different trajectory from Perin's hands lmao, how can you blame Pellegrini for not predicting the rebound trajectory is beyong my understanding

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Christ, so it was a ricochet from his leg? Even here he was incredibly unlucky

If Lazio make another 100 shots and Pelegrini stays next to SMS as he is supposed to, then SMS doesn't score in any scenario.
If he keeps watching de Ligt's butt and the shooter instead of the guy he is supposed to mark(like Allegri told him ), then SMS scores in all of them.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

If Lazio make another 100 shots and Pelegrini stays next to SMS as he is supposed to, then SMS doesn't score in any scenario.
If he keeps watching de Ligt's butt and the shooter instead of the guy he is supposed to mark(like Allegri told him ), then SMS scores in all of them.

you are absolutely deluded, ball went in after ricochet from Pellegrini's leg, he did all he could and did everything right in this circumstances

 

[kappa96]

you are absolutely deluded, ball went in after ricochet from Pellegrini's leg, he did all he could and did everything right in this circumstances

Except staying next to the man he was supposed to mark, which Allegri told him to do.
That's football one on one for you. When you have an opposing player next to you that you are marking, the Rus book of football tactics says you leave the player alone and start butt watching your colleague and the shooter while neglecting your assignment, because you can't anticipate the rebound.

 

[Boksic]

Because that's what he was supposed to do as a player that was closer to Perin, in case of a "bad" rebound he was supposed to kick the ball away and it was a pure coincidence that the ball perfectly rolled out onto the trajectory of Savic's movement, if lazio player will make another 1000 of the same shots then the ball will fly off on a different trajectory from Perin's hands lmao, how can you blame Pellegrini for not predicting the rebound trajectory is beyong my understanding

You are showing a complete lack of basic understanding of both defending and physics to the point that you are clearly trolling and I will stop responding.

As I have said multiple times, a fullback's main job is defend the far post when a player is behind them and you have a centre back in the middle. It is taught at schoolboy level. He doesn't even need to predict the flight of the ball, just defend the far post area and not let the attacker get free. There is 1 Lazio attacker in the box, he is the sole danger and what should be focussed on.

In terms of physics a shot arrowed across goal is only likely to go two places. The most likely is the far post as that is the direction that the ball is traveling and would require a significant intervention to change that. The next most possible but much less likely scenario is Perin gets a strong hand and it ends in the middle.

Anyway it was a meaningless game in the 95min with a bunch of kids on. The season is effectively over. Time to relax before we have to worry about next season.

 

[Juventino[RUS]]

Except staying next to the man he was supposed to mark, which Allegri told him to do.
That's football one on one for you. When you have a player next to you that you are marking the Rus book of football tactics says you leave the player alone and start butt watching your colleague and the shooter while neglecting your assignment.

He did mark him, then after the shot was made he moved closer to perin to kick the ball away in case of rebound to avoid the tap in goal but was unlucky that the ball went with a trajectory that was out of reach for him, then he tried to block the shot and the ball went in after the ricochet from his leg lmao, but keep on blaming him, you deluded allegri's cultist.

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You are showing a complete lack of basic understanding of both defending and physics to the point that you are clearly trolling and I will stop responding.

As I have said multiple times, a fullback's main job is defend the far post when a player is behind them and you have a centre back in the middle. It is taught at schoolboy level. He doesn't even need to predict the flight of the ball, just defend the far post area and not let the attacker get free. There is 1 Lazio attacker in the box, he is the sole danger and what should be focussed on.

In terms of physics a shot arrowed across goal is only likely to go two places. The most likely is the far post as that is the direction that the ball is traveling and would require a significant intervention to change that. The next most possible but much less likely scenario is Perin gets a strong hand and it ends in the middle.

Anyway it was a meaningless game in the 95min with a bunch of kids on. The season is effectively over. Time to relax before we have to worry about next season.

he moved closer to perin to help him in case of rebound only after THE SHOT WAS MADE by Lazio's player, you are completely lost case. Look at the gif, look at the ball movement, it was a ricochet, Savic was INCREDIBLY lucky with rebound from Perin's hands and then with ricochet from Pellegrini's legs

 

[kappa96]

He did mark him, then after the shot was made he moved closer to perin to kick the ball away in case of rebound to avoid the tap in goal but was unlucky that the ball went with a trajectory that was out of reach for him, then he tried to block the shot and the ball went in after the ricochet from his leg lmao, but keep on blaming him, you deluded allegri's cultist.

In the RUS book of football tactics you may call it marking, but that stinks of football incompetence on Pelegrini's part.
As you can see from bon bon reaction as he set his eyes on the true culprit after the shot went in.
But it's Allegri's fault anyway.
From so much butt watching Pelegrini ended center of the 6 yard box while SMS kept strolling without his marker just outside.
And you can obviously see from Pelegrini's panic that he had everything under control except luck.