Pogba wasn't good, at least in the second half. If he had scored he'd be good. And there were some other instances where he should have shot and chose to try and make the extra dribble, and did nothing in the end.
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[Serie A] JUVENTUS 2-1 Hellas Verona (September 22, 2013) (17 Viewers)
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We weren't so static, as much as we were confused. Many teams are marking Pirlo, but Verona had a man literally on Pirlo's back, which, probably for the first time in Conte's +2 years forced us to play with our Cbs as play makers, deep into the opponent's half.
On the other hand, it's normal that it will take Llorente some time to get used to our style and that's why his movement (even though he ran a lot) wasn't ideal. That movement of his didn't allow Pogba and Vidal to play their game close to Verona's box.
Our players were confused, as I said. Pirlo was out of the game, and for some time we didn't know who should occupy the empty space in midfield and how it should be done. Vidal and Pogba were finding empty space behind them, but not the usual space Vucinic provides for them in the final third. That's why for some good 20-30 minutes we looked like we don't have a plan. Later we adjusted to the situation and fortunately Tevez and Llorente found the target in the meantime.
On the other hand, it's normal that it will take Llorente some time to get used to our style and that's why his movement (even though he ran a lot) wasn't ideal. That movement of his didn't allow Pogba and Vidal to play their game close to Verona's box.
Our players were confused, as I said. Pirlo was out of the game, and for some time we didn't know who should occupy the empty space in midfield and how it should be done. Vidal and Pogba were finding empty space behind them, but not the usual space Vucinic provides for them in the final third. That's why for some good 20-30 minutes we looked like we don't have a plan. Later we adjusted to the situation and fortunately Tevez and Llorente found the target in the meantime.
For once he sent a perfect ball for Vidal's header in the 1st half. He had some good moves but I expect much more from him. Your statement that he barely did anything suggest that either you haven't seen the game or you're desperately trying to push your agenda and that would be to start Marchisio at his expense.
76 passes today and 84% completion,
17 duels won, incredible stat,
8 areal duels won,
3 chances created.
76 passes today and 84% completion,
17 duels won, incredible stat,
8 areal duels won,
3 chances created.
We were simply toothless today.And I am sick of non marking from our defence and stupid goals.Pogba was bad.Also Pirlo.I like Llorente but it is obvious that whole team must work in order he to score.Tevez was fine.We must change something that we miss otherwise we will have problems in future games,starting from next game Chievo
Yes.
Scorelines don't indicate performances, that makes zero sense. Low scoring performances indicate a lack of goals, not whether that is down to not creating chances or not taking them. We saw what happened today and in Copenhagen, the commentators and observers saw it, we are being profligate. I'm not saying we are playing champagne football, but at another stage of the season these two teams would be buried.
http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/758024/MatchReport/Italy-Serie-A-2013-2014-Juventus-Verona
So 40% of chances inside the area today, 60% outside. That's 14 shots inside the area, 21 outside. I can recall a spell from just 45-55 mins where we wasted between 3-5 chances or great openings to score. Tevez had two strong chances to score before he did. Just off the top of my head. A good chance isn't just about having a shot from 6 yards outside, with the quality of players at our level anything around the area where there is a bit of time and space is an opportunity, and it also depends on the attributes of the player.
Like I said, we could easily have scored 4 today. We scored 2 as it was, it's not as if we're talking about rebuilding the pyramids here.
Scorelines don't indicate performances, that makes zero sense. Low scoring performances indicate a lack of goals, not whether that is down to not creating chances or not taking them. We saw what happened today and in Copenhagen, the commentators and observers saw it, we are being profligate. I'm not saying we are playing champagne football, but at another stage of the season these two teams would be buried.
http://www.whoscored.com/Matches/758024/MatchReport/Italy-Serie-A-2013-2014-Juventus-Verona
So 40% of chances inside the area today, 60% outside. That's 14 shots inside the area, 21 outside. I can recall a spell from just 45-55 mins where we wasted between 3-5 chances or great openings to score. Tevez had two strong chances to score before he did. Just off the top of my head. A good chance isn't just about having a shot from 6 yards outside, with the quality of players at our level anything around the area where there is a bit of time and space is an opportunity, and it also depends on the attributes of the player.
Like I said, we could easily have scored 4 today. We scored 2 as it was, it's not as if we're talking about rebuilding the pyramids here.
I know - I wasn't directing anything at you. I just think we as fans should just be a bit more patient with him. Pressure will get to him considering his age/inexperience. It's only natural when you're often the youngest dude on the pitch.
Pogba has the potential to be a great player, so Conte will facilitate that over the coming 24-48 months.
In any case, he was lively today and was creating space for himself and those around him at times. He seemed more comfortable playing smack in the middle rather than down the left - it's more natural for him.
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I agree. We should employ this tactic if we ever verse an U-5 side in a pre-season friendly.
Pogba has the potential to be a great player, so Conte will facilitate that over the coming 24-48 months.
In any case, he was lively today and was creating space for himself and those around him at times. He seemed more comfortable playing smack in the middle rather than down the left - it's more natural for him.
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I agree. We should employ this tactic if we ever verse an U-5 side in a pre-season friendly.
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