[Serie A] JUVENTUS 2 - 0 Milan (Oct. 2nd 2011) (6 Viewers)

Man of the Match: 2011-10-02 : Juve 2 - 0 Milan

  • Buffon

  • Chiellini

  • Barzagli

  • Bonucci

  • Lichtsteiner

  • Pepe

  • Vidal

  • Pirlo

  • Marchisio

  • Krasic

  • Vucinic

  • Giaccherini

  • Conte


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Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I'm not so keen on De Ceglie. I think apart from the Parma game in which everyone played well, De Ceglie has been hugely problematic especially defending. Grosso is crap but I trust him more under pressure in our defensive half. Its important that Chiellini gets back on form immediately to play against Ibra.

Matri might have had a poor game but that's because he's no lone striker. I don't expect him to miss easy opportunities when he gets them like many of our player did against Catania and I think have that target man is essential for balance in our team. Not all our possession will be neat ground passing against Milan especially if they mark us like Catania did in that first half. Pirlo will have to move around and draw markers out of space in which case I see some of our not so good passers possessing it and taking the long ball option. Matri is important for those kinds of scenarios and besides he is mobile for his size and provides dangerous runs when Pirlo has it.

Krasic should without doubt play over Giacherini. Good second half from him just needs some game time to get his touch back. We need to be patient and not pretend like its the end of the world and bring up his january transfer every time he fumbles the ball.

Vidal should play. He had a mostly scrappy match against Catania but he at least took the game on and made himself available out there, using his physicality to keep the ball in our possession. That's all I wanted to see from Marchisio, just some initiative. He also needs game time to get his touch and fitness up there.


Buffon

Licht--Barza--Chiello--Grosso

Krasic--Vidal--Pirlo--Pepe

Vucinic--Matri
That's like trusting a hungry lion with your new born baby. The guy is ridiculously bad in defence and attack, plus he has zero speed to make up for it. Though what pisses me off about him the most is his indecisiveness with the ball at his feet whereby he holds the ball for ages feinting to pass this or that way until he just boots it upfield. The guy is useless in all aspects of the game.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
DC is almost guaranteed to cause a goal a game.

Elia certainly shouldn't start ahead of Pepe, especially for a game like Milan.
Pepe will almost definitely start. I still think Elia is a better option even though not a single soul will agree with me due to Pepe's performance in the last match. Elia wasn't bad at all though. I would like to say though, I was pleasantly surprised with Pepe's decision making last game. I am quite sure he'll return to his brainless self however.

Lately so is Chiellini. We have no options at LB. The only reason I'd go DC over Gross-O is because DC at least has some speed. Gross-O has nothing but an undeserved WC medallion.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
This is a perfect opponent for us, they're soft, old and slow (especially after a mid-week CL game that they have to win).
Forget their name and we will own them.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
De Celgie is a far worse defender than Grosso. Grosso might be poor but I don't think all the blame should be put on him for that goal which was also partly Chiellini's fault. De Ceglie loses his touch and makes poor decisions with the ball in his possession in the worst areas of the pitch. At least Grosso has the brains to just boot it out in those cases. DC has caused two goals so far and almost caused even more if it weren't for a bit of luck.
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,782
Pepe will almost definitely start. I still think Elia is a better option even though not a single soul will agree with me due to Pepe's performance in the last match. Elia wasn't bad at all though. I would like to say though, I was pleasantly surprised with Pepe's decision making last game. I am quite sure he'll return to his brainless self however.

Lately so is Chiellini. We have no options at LB. The only reason I'd go DC over Gross-O is because DC at least has some speed. Gross-O has nothing but an undeserved WC medallion.
If it was another game, starting Elia might be okay but it's too much of a risk for a game like this, especially when our LBs are ass.

Chiellini. Meh, 2 games. It happens to the best. With DC, that's normal. Anyway, no big deal whoever starts. Each has his faults.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,131
Yeah agree with Linebreak. We are just setting ourselves up for an even bigger fail with Grosso at the back. Sure, De Ceglie has had two very ordinary games, but this guy was injured for 80% of last season. He needs game time to build his confidence back up and to get some much needed match fitness. DC is still just 25, he can offer us a lot more and it will benefit us more in the long run to let this guy have an extended run of games until we buy a better LB.

Now I'm not saying that DC should be our permanent solution for our LB position, but we surely have to let him have an extended run of games until we purchase a new LB, hopefully in January. I'd love if we signed someone like Cissokho or Kolarov.

Grosso has absolutely no more room for improvement, at 33 years of age his career is over and he will be gone at the end of the season. The guy can barely run anymore, cant cross for shit, gets caught out of position and has an obsession with hitting stupid, aimless long balls all the time. He also has an infuriating habit of letting the player he is marking on the wing cross and get the ball into dangerous areas almost every time. He provides fuck all defensive coverage.

We really shouldnt have loaned out Ziegler. As average/mediocre as people say he is, I still feel that was a big mistake by us.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Buffon

Licht - Barzagli - Chiello - PDC (he always performs vs Peelan)

Vidal/Marchisio - Pirlo

Krasic - Matri - il Capitano (it's time) - Pepe

Matri is a must because Milan are really weak at aerial defending, they always concede from headers.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,131
De Celgie is a far worse defender than Grosso. Grosso might be poor but I don't think all the blame should be put on him for that goal which was also partly Chiellini's fault. De Ceglie loses his touch and makes poor decisions with the ball in his possession in the worst areas of the pitch. At least Grosso has the brains to just boot it out in those cases. DC has caused two goals so far and almost caused even more if it weren't for a bit of luck.
I blame Chiellini more for Bologna's goal. Sure DC fucked up by chesting the ball instead of clearing it, but Chiellini was totally punked by Portanova. And hes supposed to be our "WC" defender FFS.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
Bologna should have scored immediately after that mistake. Team are unlucky not to have scored even more from De Ceglie's mistakes. I don't understand what people are waiting for. Everyone should know by now that De Celgie is no good especially as a defender. Looks like people have still got their hopes high after his first half against Inter last season.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Bologna should have scored immediately after that mistake. Team are unlucky not to have scored even more from De Ceglie's mistakes. I don't understand what people are waiting for. Everyone should know by now that De Celgie is no good especially as a defender. Looks like people have still got their hopes high after his first half against Inter last season.
He'll forever be more useful than Grosso though
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Buffon

Licht - Barzagli - Chiello - PDC (he always performs vs Peelan)

Vidal/Marchisio - Pirlo

Krasic - Matri - il Capitano (it's time) - Pepe

Matri is a must because Milan are really weak at aerial defending, they always concede from headers.
If you want aerial dominance you could go Toni - he'd beat Silva to a header crouching.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,131
Bologna should have scored immediately after that mistake. Team are unlucky not to have scored even more from De Ceglie's mistakes. I don't understand what people are waiting for. Everyone should know by now that De Celgie is no good especially as a defender. Looks like people have still got their hopes high after his first half against Inter last season.
It was against Milan, not Inter, and to be fair he was fairly solid those opening 6 or so games. Again, I am not over rating DC or even saying he is good, but he is surely a better option than that zombie known as Fabio Grosso, at this point in time. I fail to see how Grosso has proven himself to be a better defender than DC since he's been at Juve? Did you watch any of Juve last season (and in 09/10) with Grosso as LB? He has cost us more goals than De Ceglie ever has.

Anyway, we are probably better off using Chiellini over either of those two.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,131
Anyway now that my anger from last nights result has subsided (a little) lets get back to business...

Lets hope for a nice win against these Rossoneri pigs in our new stadium. They are old, slow and weak, lets take advantage of that. Bbilan merda!
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,000
:D

Can you let loose on some of your Meelan hatred?
I'd much rather pity them than hate them, so lets hope they suck and finish 5th or 6th so I can pity them.

Anyone knows who will miss the match for Milan? Against Cesena they were without Zlatan, Robinho, Pato, Kevin-Prince Boateng, Antonini, Bonera, Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini, Kingsley Boateng and Mexes.
Most of them are bench players anyway so I wonder if the three attackers and KP Boateng will be back.
 

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