[Serie A] Juventus 1-0 Udinese, Nov 22nd, 2009 (2 Viewers)
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I meant that.
*We don't have the fullbacks for it, our fullbacks can't own their flank. Let's not kid ourselves, we don't have no Maicon's as fullback.
*Diego gets to isolated.
*Camoranesi is so much better when playing on that right flank in 4-2-3-1.
*Our 3 man midfield becomes so much worse when they have to act as deep lying midfielders, trying to do something creative offensively. Look at the game against Sampdoria, Melo and Sissoko only concentrated on what they are actually good at, the defensive part, and they were great together.
*We add width to the team, 4-3-1-2 means nothing from our flanks.
*Sissoko, Melo, Diego, Giovinco, Poulsen, Camoranesi, Amauri and our fullbacks have all gained from the 4-2-3-1. If we switch back to the 4-3-1-2, we're doing it only to accommodate Del Piero.
*We went from playing shit with 4-3-1-2 to playing some amazing and actually really really attractive football. Why give all that up?
If you guys want to switch back to the 4-3-1-2 then fine, but please don't say we are going to play better with the 4-3-1-2 and just admit that you guys want to see Del Piero on the field at any cost.
*Diego gets to isolated.
*Camoranesi is so much better when playing on that right flank in 4-2-3-1.
*Our 3 man midfield becomes so much worse when they have to act as deep lying midfielders, trying to do something creative offensively. Look at the game against Sampdoria, Melo and Sissoko only concentrated on what they are actually good at, the defensive part, and they were great together.
*We add width to the team, 4-3-1-2 means nothing from our flanks.
*Sissoko, Melo, Diego, Giovinco, Poulsen, Camoranesi, Amauri and our fullbacks have all gained from the 4-2-3-1. If we switch back to the 4-3-1-2, we're doing it only to accommodate Del Piero.
*We went from playing shit with 4-3-1-2 to playing some amazing and actually really really attractive football. Why give all that up?
If you guys want to switch back to the 4-3-1-2 then fine, but please don't say we are going to play better with the 4-3-1-2 and just admit that you guys want to see Del Piero on the field at any cost.
Nobody really knows if it wont be attractive or not. Yes I was against accomodating Del Piero back into the team because if something is working then there is no need to change it. However I believe Ale will make the 4-3-1-2 a formidable formation. If a 4-3-1-2 is employed however Camo starts over Marchisio everytime due to having lack of width.
- their weakness is not covered in the 4-2-3-1 either, we can see that in our recent matches
- Camo plays a pretty free role these days, he is not one to be pinned down by formations
- with Camo - Ale - Diego in operation, the 2 other MFs could lay out deck chairs and play rummy, they won't be required for offensive purposes
- Camo and Ale naturally drift to wider positions, they can cover that gap
- "accommodating" Del Piero? it ain't worth it without him, buddy
- Roma assrape at the beginning of the season?
- Camo plays a pretty free role these days, he is not one to be pinned down by formations
- with Camo - Ale - Diego in operation, the 2 other MFs could lay out deck chairs and play rummy, they won't be required for offensive purposes
- Camo and Ale naturally drift to wider positions, they can cover that gap
- "accommodating" Del Piero? it ain't worth it without him, buddy
- Roma assrape at the beginning of the season?
look at this assuming we have most of players available:
4-2-3-1
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
----------Sissoko---melo--------------
camoranesi---Diego-----Giovinco----
------------David-----------------------
4-3-2-1
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
---Camoranesi---Sissoko----melo---
------Diego-----Delpiero/Giovinco---
-------------David---------------------
4-3-1-2
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
Camoranezi---sissoko----melo------
--------------Diego--------------------
----------David---Delpiero-----------
There is a little difference there, we don't really know which formation are we using, cos either we playing camo as three man midfield or as offensive midfielder he is still going to do what he always do, so for Camoranesi is not going to make difference, same goes for Delpiero, he is always behind the striker. Someone mentioned that ferrara was not lucky with injuries that is true.
You could correct me with sissoko and melo they could be rotated. the rest in any formation the will play same game, fact the Alex will come back will make it easy for Diego... But if we have all those players in disposal we don't really need a formation just put them on the pitch and let them do the job without much complication. So when you see at bigger pictures 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-1-2 don't differ at all!
4-2-3-1
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
----------Sissoko---melo--------------
camoranesi---Diego-----Giovinco----
------------David-----------------------
4-3-2-1
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
---Camoranesi---Sissoko----melo---
------Diego-----Delpiero/Giovinco---
-------------David---------------------
4-3-1-2
----------------buffon------------------
zebina---canavaro-CHiellini--Grosso
Camoranezi---sissoko----melo------
--------------Diego--------------------
----------David---Delpiero-----------
There is a little difference there, we don't really know which formation are we using, cos either we playing camo as three man midfield or as offensive midfielder he is still going to do what he always do, so for Camoranesi is not going to make difference, same goes for Delpiero, he is always behind the striker. Someone mentioned that ferrara was not lucky with injuries that is true.
You could correct me with sissoko and melo they could be rotated. the rest in any formation the will play same game, fact the Alex will come back will make it easy for Diego... But if we have all those players in disposal we don't really need a formation just put them on the pitch and let them do the job without much complication. So when you see at bigger pictures 4-2-3-1 and 4-3-1-2 don't differ at all!
The biggest reason to stick with the 4-2-3-1 is Camoranesi!..
He is world class as a right winger and SUCKS in a three man midfield!..
And playing a 4-3-1-2 with DP and Amauri/Trez upfront is kinda the same as a 4-2-3-1 as when attacking Camo will go in front/right side while Sissoko and Melo move in the middle of the park. While DP will go left/attack..
Still changing formation all the time is not good. No matter how great of a team you have.
What if Del Piero gets injured again?.. Will we change formation again, again, again and again!
He is world class as a right winger and SUCKS in a three man midfield!..
And playing a 4-3-1-2 with DP and Amauri/Trez upfront is kinda the same as a 4-2-3-1 as when attacking Camo will go in front/right side while Sissoko and Melo move in the middle of the park. While DP will go left/attack..
Still changing formation all the time is not good. No matter how great of a team you have.
What if Del Piero gets injured again?.. Will we change formation again, again, again and again!