[Serie A] Juventus 1-0 Udinese, Nov 22nd, 2009 (14 Viewers)

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
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I don't want to make the mistakes we have made with Camo over the last 2 seasons and put Ale in an intense game for more than 30-45 mins
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,025
The 4-2-3-1 without Del Piero is working very well.
The 4-3-1-2 without Del Piero doesn't work.

I have no doubts that a 4-3-1-2 WITH Del Piero will sooner or later start working well, at least as well as the 4-2-3-1 without Ale.

Now, it might take some time, some 3-5 matches until the 4-3-1-2 with Ale starts working (Diego and Ale will need some time to gel). These 3-5 matches might mean more lost points and eventually missing out on the scudetto.

I'll take the risk. Many might lose the patience if we lose points with the 4-3-1-2, but i'll still take the risk and play the 4-3-1-2 with Diego and Ale.

I'd do it because it offers something that might prove huge in the CL and next year in Italy. After a long long looong time it will give us two equally deadly formations that we can use depending on the opponent, or sometimes even in the same match. The opponents won't know what to expect from us, as they did from 2004 till now.
Being able to use different formations and having the players for that was one of the reasons why Lippi and Italy won in 2006.
Capello couldn't do it, Ranieri couldn't do it. We were bad in Europe and suffered in Italy too with Ranieri.
If Ferrara can do it, then we can achieve big things. Taking a risk in order to achieve that, is a risk i'm willing to take.

And then again, there is a chance that the 4-3-1-2 with Ale, will start working instantly. In that case it's even better.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
Who knows? maybe Alex will be used in 4-2-3-1 just like the 2002-03 season, when we reached the final of CL against Milan.

we were like this:


Tachinardi - Davids

Camoranesi - Del Piero - Nedved

Trezeguet




and this year:


Sissoko - Melo

Camoranesi - Diego/Del Pie - Del Pie/Giovinco

Trezeguet/Amauri

 

Azzurri7

Pinturicchio
Moderator
Dec 16, 2003
72,692
No way! He is out for months and playing him from the start is a huge risk, I would only bring him at the second half.
But if he's fully fit? and he also played a friendly match couple of days ago. He was supposed to be on the bench before International matches away to Atalanta but because he wasn't fully fit he didn't put him.
 

Snoop

Sabet is a nasty virgin
Oct 2, 2001
28,186
But if he's fully fit? and he also played a friendly match couple of days ago. He was supposed to be on the bench before International matches away to Atalanta but because he wasn't fully fit he didn't put him.
I don't know, I want him to play full match against Bordeaux, I wouldn't risk him playing against Udinese full match, and can he play another full match 3 days later when he was months away? I don't want to see what happened exactly with Diego to him, when we played Diego when he wasn't fit, and he struggled many matches for that.
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,751
I don't know, I want him to play full match against Bordeaux, I wouldn't risk him playing against Udinese full match, and can he play another full match 3 days later when he was months away? I don't want to see what happened exactly with Diego to him, when we played Diego when he wasn't fit, and he struggled many matches for that.
I agree with snoop here, it is seemingly essential that Del Piero plays the enitre match against Bordeaux, del piero can hit a goal in at any time during any match no matter how well or bad he is playing at the time, however with players like Amauri if he's having a bad day and missed loads of chances you know he won't be scoring a goal.
 
Dec 31, 2008
22,910
Give him proper rest for all the other games so that he plays full 90 mins against bordeaux and inter. These are the biggest matches coming and we need his full service
 

Luca

Senior Member
Apr 22, 2007
12,751
Give him proper rest for all the other games so that he plays full 90 mins against bordeaux and inter. These are the biggest matches coming and we need his full service
I still think he needs to start the other matches like against Udinese for match fitness and game time but to sub him off at around the 55-60 min mark would be wise. This is how I'd do it anyway.
 

Ahmed

Principino
Sep 3, 2006
47,928
I still think he needs to start the other matches like against Udinese for match fitness and game time but to sub him off at around the 55-60 min mark would be wise. This is how I'd do it anyway.
I'd do the opposite of that, gel him in slowly, give him a sizeable amount of minutes till he gets into his groove...but you're white, so you're obviously right.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,893
I'd do the opposite of that, gel him in slowly, give him a sizeable amount of minutes till he gets into his groove...but you're white, so you're obviously right.
Wait, you aren't white? I am so done talking to you :stuckup:


I don't think there is any chance of him starting this game. I'm not even sure if he'll get some playing time.

That being said, it would be fun if he came on and ended up scoring a useless goal a few minutes before the final whistle.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,893
whites > dogs > coloured people


Edit: I should probably clarify that those are not my actual beliefs.







It should be white men > white women > dogs > coloured people


*Proceeds to wait for the first member to treat this as a serious post*
 
May 4, 2004
11,622
Going back to a 4-3-1-2 NOW would be a mistake imo!.. No matter if we want Ale to play or not!..

I would play him in the last 35 min, sub him with Giovinco and stick with the 4-2-3-1...


But I also agree with how ever said that a 4-3-1-2 with Ale would be nice, the timing is not thou'..
 

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