[Serie A] JUVENTUS 0-1 Napoli [April 22nd, 2018] (2 Viewers)
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back then we had plenty of italian players who knew what it meant to wear the jersey.
on sunday, after chiellini's injury, our 40-year-old keeper was the only italian left in our team. a couple of years ago, we had plenty of italian players either tied to the club (buffon, chiellini, marchisio) or who were completely aware of what juve is in italy (barza, bonucci, pirlo, or even matri). i remember a coppa game against avellino when conte was able to start the match with 9 italians (+ caceres, asa). this team moved far away from its roots i guess.
on sunday, after chiellini's injury, our 40-year-old keeper was the only italian left in our team. a couple of years ago, we had plenty of italian players either tied to the club (buffon, chiellini, marchisio) or who were completely aware of what juve is in italy (barza, bonucci, pirlo, or even matri). i remember a coppa game against avellino when conte was able to start the match with 9 italians (+ caceres, asa). this team moved far away from its roots i guess.
That's such a gross exaggeration. We have won multiple league titles and reached CL finals without many Italian starters.
Stupid tactics from the coach has nothing to do with a team moving away from its 'roots'. There is scarcity of quality Italian players atm so the next best thing to do is to get talent from abroad to keep the team competitive.
I don't know what people want. Should Juve load the line-up with 11 Italian players and boast about it's 'roots' or do people want Juventus to win ? which it has been doing for the past 6 years with or without Italian players
Stupid tactics from the coach has nothing to do with a team moving away from its 'roots'. There is scarcity of quality Italian players atm so the next best thing to do is to get talent from abroad to keep the team competitive.
I don't know what people want. Should Juve load the line-up with 11 Italian players and boast about it's 'roots' or do people want Juventus to win ? which it has been doing for the past 6 years with or without Italian players
Ronaldo and Messi have been holding their respective clubs back for years, should have been replaced with Suso and Michu respectively.
Whilst we're at it, we should have persisted with Matri - Giovinco.
enough with this 'wE neEd iTAliAnZ" mentality please. We need the best players for each position and role, in case you haven't noticed the best team Italy can muster up is fucking awful and would finish maybe 6th in Serie A.
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Until now, nobody spoke of Napoli other than in passing in England (Source: I live here sadly)
But this season, there's been a lot of jacking off where Napoli are concerned. Expect their MVPs to mostly be gone in the next 2 seasons.
Whilst we're at it, we should have persisted with Matri - Giovinco.
enough with this 'wE neEd iTAliAnZ" mentality please. We need the best players for each position and role, in case you haven't noticed the best team Italy can muster up is fucking awful and would finish maybe 6th in Serie A.
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Until now, nobody spoke of Napoli other than in passing in England (Source: I live here sadly)
But this season, there's been a lot of jacking off where Napoli are concerned. Expect their MVPs to mostly be gone in the next 2 seasons.
If anything , the ones holding us back in the CL this year were the old Italians. If not for the foreign talent we have bought over the years, I don't think we'd be making 2 finals. There's no way you can really point a finger at them for their supposed lack of 'pride' for wearing this jersey. Allegri set up the team to play for a draw and the players followed his instructions. Simplez
we also need loyal players who are willing to give their all for the jersey. ronaldo would not need extra motivation for any showdown, while benatia's lack of concentration cost us dearly on multiple occasions lately. allegri didn't tell him to let koulibaly break free or watch the crotone guy's bicycle kick as a well-payed spectator. khedira played great against real, was piss poor and lethargic against napoli. licht's introduction turned the spurs tie around, he gave away countless of balls on sunday.
of course we can't have a team full of italians. but juve always had a strong italian core, which vanished over the last couple of seasons. i do have great expectations about caldara and bernardeschi for next season, though. these guys might also be more loyal to the club than mercenaries like alex sandro, pogba or fucking dani alves who left the club because nobody understood him. and yes, bonucci can screw himself, too.
of course we can't have a team full of italians. but juve always had a strong italian core, which vanished over the last couple of seasons. i do have great expectations about caldara and bernardeschi for next season, though. these guys might also be more loyal to the club than mercenaries like alex sandro, pogba or fucking dani alves who left the club because nobody understood him. and yes, bonucci can screw himself, too.
You are just looking for reasons to bash foreign players at the club just so you could get your point across.
Buffon and Chiellini's collective blunder led to one of the greatest goals in CL and subsequently a 3-0 lead which is what lost us the tie in the first place. Why are you not mentioning that ? But it's all Benatia's fault because apparently he doesn't have the 'spirit' of the Italians to play for this club.
If the players are unmotivated and showing a lack of effort , that's down to the coach to fix that. Stop trying to push an agenda when there's no need for it.
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Lastly Juventus should maintain the tradition but it should not be compromised at the expense of quality. The older players no longer have the legs or the motivation and it's time we overhauled our squad with new additions.
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-Khedira and Cuadrado was responsible for our comeback win against Milan
-Dybala's winner against Lazio is why there is still a race atm in the first place
-Douglas Costa isnt certainly short of motivation when he plays in Serie A who now helps the team defend by tracking back
What motivation do you need ? Can we just admit some of our players don't have the legs/are past it and just need to be replaced? Having more Italians wouldn't be effecting the outcome differently no matter which way you look at it.
Buffon and Chiellini's collective blunder led to one of the greatest goals in CL and subsequently a 3-0 lead which is what lost us the tie in the first place. Why are you not mentioning that ? But it's all Benatia's fault because apparently he doesn't have the 'spirit' of the Italians to play for this club.
If the players are unmotivated and showing a lack of effort , that's down to the coach to fix that. Stop trying to push an agenda when there's no need for it.
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Lastly Juventus should maintain the tradition but it should not be compromised at the expense of quality. The older players no longer have the legs or the motivation and it's time we overhauled our squad with new additions.
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-Khedira and Cuadrado was responsible for our comeback win against Milan
-Dybala's winner against Lazio is why there is still a race atm in the first place
-Douglas Costa isnt certainly short of motivation when he plays in Serie A who now helps the team defend by tracking back
What motivation do you need ? Can we just admit some of our players don't have the legs/are past it and just need to be replaced? Having more Italians wouldn't be effecting the outcome differently no matter which way you look at it.