[Serie A] Genoa 1-3 JUVENTUS (16th September 2012) (33 Viewers)

[dann10]

about that, wtf happened? what will happen, I mean will he get suspended?

but no he didn't deserve a red, 1st yellow was uncalled considering genoa player hand balled in the 2nd half and got nothing, not even a penalty! 2nd yellow, boriello or immobile dived, IIRC though

Bonucci didnt get the first yellow. Pirlo did. Hence why bonucci wasn't sent off. I initially thought bonucci got booked for the handball but apparently he didnt. According to rai

 

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[Lion]

OK, this game will be useful so we can think about some of our weaknessess.

Firstly, it shows that 352 is all about keeping possession. Very good when we can do it, because we play with a high line and keep the ball and press all game long.

But it's really worrisome when the opposite team plays so intensely like Genoa. Our defenders play in a high line and are too slow. Chelsea will do stg similar to what Genoa did today in the first half. This worries me a lot.

yes, but keep in mind we will be playing with an actual ball winner, and pacey wing backs against chelsea.

 

[radekas]

about that, wtf happened? what will happen, I mean will he get suspended?

but no he didn't deserve a red, 1st yellow was uncalled considering genoa player hand balled in the 2nd half and got nothing, not even a penalty! 2nd yellow, boriello or immobile dived, IIRC though

Bonucci only got 1 yellow card.

 

[PedroFlu]

Also Bonucci cannot be trusted as a starter. Marotta gotta think about getting a new player to be in his place. Marrone should be tested more times.

Barzagli was absolutely horrible, his worst game in a Juve jersey I've ever seen.

In the mid we have good depth, though. Pogba, Marrone and Giaccherini.

Also, Caceres showed he's not good enough to play as a RWB. He's good as a RB or a RCB. But for this position we also have Isla, who normally would have played this game.

De Ceglie is soft and slow, he can't play in CL. But in Serie A games agains weak sides it'd be enough. So I'd say we're good in depth in the mid and also wings.

 

[Nzoric]

OK, this game will be useful so we can think about some of our weaknessess.

Firstly, it shows that 352 is all about keeping possession. Very good when we can do it, because we play with a high line and keep the ball and press all game long.

But it's really worrisome when the opposite team plays so intensely like Genoa. Our defenders play in a high line and are too slow. Chelsea will do stg similar to what Genoa did today in the first half. This worries me a lot.

Who is going to do the running for Chelsea? Lampard and Mikel? They play a 4-2-3-1 , don't expect much - if any - defensive work from Hazard, Mata, Oscar.

 

[PedroFlu]

yes, but keep in mind we will be playing with an actual ball winner, and pacey wing backs against chelsea.

Yep, this makes a huge difference, 'cause the team will be able to press and win the ball. But if we don't win the ball.. that's what worries me.

 

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[Joe]

Juventus: 5 wins in a row & 42 unbeaten games.

 

[Cheesio]

No way

 

[napoleonic]

Bonucci didnt get the first yellow. Pirlo did. Hence why bonucci wasn't sent off. I initially thought bonucci got booked for the handball but apparently he didnt. According to rai

but I think I saw that the referee awarded 2nd yellow on that bonucci hand ball incident, if pirlo already got the yellow then who got the 2nd?

 

[PedroFlu]

Who is going to do the running for Chelsea? Lampard and Mikel? They play a 4-2-3-1 , don't expect much - if any - defensive work from Hazard, Mata, Oscar.

I guess maybe the problem is not the opposite team's running, but their posession of the ball. Also, Ramires, Mata and Hazard are pretty quick.

Today the lineup was shitty, it was obviuos that the back 3 would be exposed with such a soft mid.

 

[Lion]

Yep, this makes a huge difference, 'cause the team will be able to press and win the ball. But if we don't win the ball.. that's what worries me.

one more thing. the team would also need pirlo to be in god mode. a game like he played today would mean juvents would lose possesion game easily

 

[Van Helsing]

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[ZoSo]

Who is going to do the running for Chelsea? Lampard and Mikel? They play a 4-2-3-1 , don't expect much - if any - defensive work from Hazard, Mata, Oscar.

They will play on the counter. Expect fast breaks like this game except worse. Vidal, Licht and Asamoah should help A LOT though. Not to mention Vucinic being on and adding more danger up front too.

 

[PedroFlu]

Also, our depth in the attack department is simply horrible. U can't count on Matri, Quags or Bendtner not even for Serie A games. This is the biggest issue, along with defense fragility - Bonucci insecurity and Barzagli's sloweness.

In January Marotta will have to offload Matri and Quags and bring in youger and more talented players. Immobile replacing one of them would do.

 

[Nzoric]

But the fast breaks in this game occured as a result of their midfield outrunning us, not us losing balls against their defenders. I'm so much more calm for the Chelsea game than I was today with Genoa on the programme.

 

[TARU]

if we are resting so many key player 3-5-2 will be shaky for us.

 

[PedroFlu]

one more thing. the team would also need pirlo to be in god mode. a game like he played today would mean juvents would lose possesion game easily

IMO him and Marchisio, who are the heart and brains of the Italian NT, were tired today. One of them should have rested. Asamoah is a beast, Pirlo is definitely more fragile. Can't understand Conte's options. But I don't expect Pirlo to play very well against Chelsea, he should rest for a week now. Let's remember how much him and Marchiiso played in Euros.

 

[Joe]

But the fast breaks in this game occured as a result of their midfield outrunning us, not us losing balls against their defenders. I'm so much more calm for the Chelsea game than I was today with Genoa on the programme.

Same here.

I have a good feeling about the Chelsea match.

 

[dann10]

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