[SERIE A] Chievo vs JUVENTUS (09/11/08) (5 Viewers)
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I agree that playing Giovinco might not be good at the moment, because the new system needs the wings to defend and go back to help. It's also partially why Molinaro has been looking a bit better.
But at the same time, I do think that instead of bringing in Grygera when we were 2-0 up, we could have brouht in Giovinco. The guy needs some playing time to get better, keeping on the bench will just lose him. I would rather see him loaned out for another season if he's going to stay on the bench the whole time!
But at the same time, I do think that instead of bringing in Grygera when we were 2-0 up, we could have brouht in Giovinco. The guy needs some playing time to get better, keeping on the bench will just lose him. I would rather see him loaned out for another season if he's going to stay on the bench the whole time!
what if ranieri just wants to give de ceglie precious playing time so that he can develop and get to know our system. he can "learn" to defend easier, when he is not responsible for the whole left side and he can learn how to make runs and give crosses too.
i think it is a great "playing ground" for de ceglie so he can slowly get a better understanding of our system and get better in helping out at the back, so he will be a good substitute or even replacment for molinaro.
another theory was, that ranieri knows that molinaro is not the strongest in the defense so he wants de ceglie to help him shut his side down. giovinco would not fit the bill here ... but we will never know.
i must admit i do worry about giovinco, but try to be optimistic that he will get much playing time in the italian cup and when he does good things in our 4-4-2 system and shows he fits there he will get his time in serie a.
Thumbs up for Ranieri, I know we are in a very good shape and all but this not playing Giovinco is getting on my nerves. Seemingly there is no place for him in the team and the coach doesn't believe in him neither when we need to score nor when we are to defend a result, neither against the strong teams nor against the weak ones. Shouldn't we loan him back to a mid/low table team? This way he at least could get some minutes and wouldn't lost his form.
So who wants to analyse whether our penalty was a penalty? Everyone was very keen to when Milan got a soft penalty.
My initial reaction was that it was a penalty, but having seen it again, it hit the guy's knee before hitting his hand.
Lecce on the other hand had a few shouts for penalties when the ball hit Juve arm's which were at the player's side.
In my view, if we got ours, Lecce probably should have had a penalty, too.
Not much to say about the performance. It was a win.
We matched Lecce's workrate and our superior quality told.
My initial reaction was that it was a penalty, but having seen it again, it hit the guy's knee before hitting his hand.
Lecce on the other hand had a few shouts for penalties when the ball hit Juve arm's which were at the player's side.
In my view, if we got ours, Lecce probably should have had a penalty, too.
Not much to say about the performance. It was a win.
We matched Lecce's workrate and our superior quality told.
All were good decissions.
If it didn't hit Chievo player's hand then Iaquinta would have found himself one on one with the goalkeeper.
By handlling the ball the Chievo player stopped what was going to be a 100% chance.
Our handballs were the same as the handballs Milan were being awarded penalties. A cross that was going nowhere, ball to hand, and even if we didn't stop those balls with the hand, there wasn't any risk for a chance for Chievo.
Great decissions by the ref.
If it didn't hit Chievo player's hand then Iaquinta would have found himself one on one with the goalkeeper.
By handlling the ball the Chievo player stopped what was going to be a 100% chance.
Our handballs were the same as the handballs Milan were being awarded penalties. A cross that was going nowhere, ball to hand, and even if we didn't stop those balls with the hand, there wasn't any risk for a chance for Chievo.
Great decissions by the ref.
we played ok...
probably shouldn't have had to rely on a penalty and a DP free kick against a team like Chievo.
I can't believe Ranieri didn't play Giovinco, why didn't he start him for a creative line up (we may have scored a proper goal) and subbed him with DC (defensive lineup) when we had a lead? Only saw very elaborate highlights.. a win is a win but if we play without creating chances against a Milan team then we're in trouble.
probably shouldn't have had to rely on a penalty and a DP free kick against a team like Chievo.
I can't believe Ranieri didn't play Giovinco, why didn't he start him for a creative line up (we may have scored a proper goal) and subbed him with DC (defensive lineup) when we had a lead? Only saw very elaborate highlights.. a win is a win but if we play without creating chances against a Milan team then we're in trouble.
We actually are playing splendid against BIG teams. In fact, our only wonderful performances of the current and the last season have been against those teams. It looks like that motivation and excitement (which are growing when we play against big name teams) are everything in our team. Winning the title is about winning the mid/weak teams though and this is why I think we have a narrow chance to win the Scudetto this season. This is the impact of Calciopoli on our team. The players want to prove something to the world and this is why we haven't lost to any big team under Ranieri so far.
It's true but i'd add another reason for our good results vs the big teams, just as important as the motivation.
We all know that we're not a team that can have much possession. We score most of our goals out of nowhere. Camo to Trez, BANG. Del Piero from free kick, BANG. Nedved cross for Amauri, BANG.
We're a team well suited to play the game preffered by the serie A minnows. Defend with 10 man, hunt the opponents down all over the pitch and then strike on a counter or score from a set-piece. The difference between us and the minnows is that we have the required quality to hurt the opponent and create chances.
Ranieri noticed that we can't open up and let a strong opponent lots of space (like Real or Milan are leaving for their opponents). We don't have the required talent in midfield to play that game. He realized what's the kind of game we need to play against the big teams.
Just look at the 2 matches with Real and you'll see.
Good tactics+Motivation is the main reason for our great results vs the big guns.
We all know that we're not a team that can have much possession. We score most of our goals out of nowhere. Camo to Trez, BANG. Del Piero from free kick, BANG. Nedved cross for Amauri, BANG.
We're a team well suited to play the game preffered by the serie A minnows. Defend with 10 man, hunt the opponents down all over the pitch and then strike on a counter or score from a set-piece. The difference between us and the minnows is that we have the required quality to hurt the opponent and create chances.
Ranieri noticed that we can't open up and let a strong opponent lots of space (like Real or Milan are leaving for their opponents). We don't have the required talent in midfield to play that game. He realized what's the kind of game we need to play against the big teams.
Just look at the 2 matches with Real and you'll see.
Good tactics+Motivation is the main reason for our great results vs the big guns.
If Ranieri can turn back time, i'm pretty sure that he'll ask for Xabi Alonso instead of Poulsen.
The main reason for buying Poulsen was the fear of our weak defense. We had a choice midfielder or defender and we made the wrong one imo, but since we chose to buy a midfielder, Ranieri's opinion was to buy a strong DMC who'll protect the defense. ( back then i agreed with him. I also thought that our defense sucks and since we're not buying a defender i wanted a DMC)
Now when he can see that the defense is doing great and that even without 2 DMCs that defense can keep clean sheets, i believe he realized that Poulsen over Xabi was a mistake.
Or at least i hope he thinks this way.
The main reason for buying Poulsen was the fear of our weak defense. We had a choice midfielder or defender and we made the wrong one imo, but since we chose to buy a midfielder, Ranieri's opinion was to buy a strong DMC who'll protect the defense. ( back then i agreed with him. I also thought that our defense sucks and since we're not buying a defender i wanted a DMC)
Now when he can see that the defense is doing great and that even without 2 DMCs that defense can keep clean sheets, i believe he realized that Poulsen over Xabi was a mistake.
Or at least i hope he thinks this way.
Manninger 6 wasn't tested
Mellberg 6.5 another solid performance
Legro 6 better 2nd half
Chiellini 6.5 Solid
Molinaro 6 a bit tired
Sissoko 6 too many mistakes in the 1st half
Tiago 5.5 invisible most of the times
Marco 6 only for his defensive work
De Ceglie 5.5 not his position
Del Piero 7 MoM good he scored a splendid FK on his bday
Iaquinta 6
Ranieri 6 wasn't happy with his De Ceglie-Molinaro decision playing them on one side.
Mellberg 6.5 another solid performance
Legro 6 better 2nd half
Chiellini 6.5 Solid
Molinaro 6 a bit tired
Sissoko 6 too many mistakes in the 1st half
Tiago 5.5 invisible most of the times
Marco 6 only for his defensive work
De Ceglie 5.5 not his position
Del Piero 7 MoM good he scored a splendid FK on his bday
Iaquinta 6
Ranieri 6 wasn't happy with his De Ceglie-Molinaro decision playing them on one side.
Probably because our penalty was a 100% legit and not even an inbred maggot interista would dream of questioning it. So really, there is nothing to discuss. And we played Chievo, btw.
And yeah they could and should've had a penalty when Legro got it on his arm/hand, at least that was my initial reaction. But we would have still won it so it doesn't matter that much.
And yeah they could and should've had a penalty when Legro got it on his arm/hand, at least that was my initial reaction. But we would have still won it so it doesn't matter that much.