[Serie A] Cagliari - Juventus (05/02/2011) (5 Viewers)
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It's the main reason why we were so unsuccessful this and last year. After Ranieri left our defence has gone downhill in its orginazation and it's especially the bullshit goal like Acquafresca's that result in point loss. It takes a lot of time until we grasp up on that we concede and move further, when we conceded it took a good 15 min until we had something to say in the match. From the 50th minute 'till Matri's goal, we weren't dominating although the end we showed our skills and had 3 or 4 minutes posession of the ball. This defence need step it up, we were the better side against Udinese, Palermo in the second half and this match. In two out of that three matches it didn't come off for us cos of his defence.
we have to see that again next week matri 
Situation #1:
You can see here our defence line letting the man alone in a very dangerous zone ... Bonucci, Chiellini and Martinez (allthough Martinez had to stay close to Nainggolan) are simply just looking how the opposition player jumps in front of them while Sorensen and Barzagli are already unable to do anything 'cause of the ball height.
Situation #2:
At this attack our defence isn't positioned how it should be. The ball first comes to Cossu on the left and he's totaly alone 'cause Sorensen is covering one of the two players inside the box. Barzagli also covers one while Bonucci and Melo both standing in empty space with no one to cover. Krasić is to much inside the field.
Cossu here recieves the ball and after smooth drible chips it on the second post. Krasić hasn't closed him as he should have. Aquafresca is on the other side ahead of Martinez and behind Giorgio who goes forward to prevent a player in front of him to threaten Gigi. There he makes a mistake but he had to do it 'cause Melo didn't cover any of Cagliari players.
Here you can clearly see that Martinez stays not folowing Aquafresca while Giorgio is late to make offside trap. After that Aquafresca scores.
Sitution #3:
Free kick now. Cagliari player easily chips the ball over the wall and Conti is alone there. Our CB's didn't closed him and are giving him a lot of space to react. Martinez stays on his side.
Conti now shoots but badly and it goes over the bar but it is obvoius that our defence have reacted very bad again. Only Martinez tried to get the ball but he was to far from the start so he couldn't cach up.
Situation #4:
Disallowed goal. Canini did pull Toni but our defence line isn't positioned as it should be, again. I think that Nene stayed alone this time. Aquilani doesn't cover anybody, Giorgio is in front of two Cagliari players and Melo is with Aquafresca and Conti.
Barzagli takes one while Sissoko is late to prevent Nene's header. Luckily Canini drags Toni down and referee whistles for a foul. In most cases referees don't make this decisions.
Toni is on the ground, Nene scores and Sissoko haven't got a single clue what's happening ... he made a mistake by letting Nene alone and going to Barzas player to double him up. Bonucci is just a little bit too short and he couldn't get the ball.
I think that this is out biggest flaw throughout entire season - defence line, positioning and reacting on free kicks, korner kicks and crosses as well. What they do on trainings is clearly a pure crap. They are letting opposition players to walk and move as they wish. It is embarassing at the moments but fortunately last night we were not punished for our mistakes.
You can see here our defence line letting the man alone in a very dangerous zone ... Bonucci, Chiellini and Martinez (allthough Martinez had to stay close to Nainggolan) are simply just looking how the opposition player jumps in front of them while Sorensen and Barzagli are already unable to do anything 'cause of the ball height.
Situation #2:
At this attack our defence isn't positioned how it should be. The ball first comes to Cossu on the left and he's totaly alone 'cause Sorensen is covering one of the two players inside the box. Barzagli also covers one while Bonucci and Melo both standing in empty space with no one to cover. Krasić is to much inside the field.
Cossu here recieves the ball and after smooth drible chips it on the second post. Krasić hasn't closed him as he should have. Aquafresca is on the other side ahead of Martinez and behind Giorgio who goes forward to prevent a player in front of him to threaten Gigi. There he makes a mistake but he had to do it 'cause Melo didn't cover any of Cagliari players.
Here you can clearly see that Martinez stays not folowing Aquafresca while Giorgio is late to make offside trap. After that Aquafresca scores.
Sitution #3:
Free kick now. Cagliari player easily chips the ball over the wall and Conti is alone there. Our CB's didn't closed him and are giving him a lot of space to react. Martinez stays on his side.
Conti now shoots but badly and it goes over the bar but it is obvoius that our defence have reacted very bad again. Only Martinez tried to get the ball but he was to far from the start so he couldn't cach up.
Situation #4:
Disallowed goal. Canini did pull Toni but our defence line isn't positioned as it should be, again. I think that Nene stayed alone this time. Aquilani doesn't cover anybody, Giorgio is in front of two Cagliari players and Melo is with Aquafresca and Conti.
Barzagli takes one while Sissoko is late to prevent Nene's header. Luckily Canini drags Toni down and referee whistles for a foul. In most cases referees don't make this decisions.
Toni is on the ground, Nene scores and Sissoko haven't got a single clue what's happening ... he made a mistake by letting Nene alone and going to Barzas player to double him up. Bonucci is just a little bit too short and he couldn't get the ball.
I think that this is out biggest flaw throughout entire season - defence line, positioning and reacting on free kicks, korner kicks and crosses as well. What they do on trainings is clearly a pure crap. They are letting opposition players to walk and move as they wish. It is embarassing at the moments but fortunately last night we were not punished for our mistakes.
+REP
Good post.
It's something I've been saying, but couldn't be bothered to take the screen shots to illustrate the point.
The defence is too narrow and it causes two problems:
1. There is space round the side of the defence, but the opposition don't even have to go wide to find it. It only gets covered when the winger (who shouldn't really have to defend in the box) tracks back; and
2. There are too many people in the middle, so no one person ends up taking responsibility to make the clearance. I think Melo won more defensive headers than the CBs did yesterday, because Melo always takes responsibility and attacks the ball. Others stand and wait for someone else to act.
And I just don't understand playing zonally instead of marking when Juve have plenty players back, in general, to mark up and still have a spare man or two in the box.
It's something I've been saying, but couldn't be bothered to take the screen shots to illustrate the point.
The defence is too narrow and it causes two problems:
1. There is space round the side of the defence, but the opposition don't even have to go wide to find it. It only gets covered when the winger (who shouldn't really have to defend in the box) tracks back; and
2. There are too many people in the middle, so no one person ends up taking responsibility to make the clearance. I think Melo won more defensive headers than the CBs did yesterday, because Melo always takes responsibility and attacks the ball. Others stand and wait for someone else to act.
And I just don't understand playing zonally instead of marking when Juve have plenty players back, in general, to mark up and still have a spare man or two in the box.
I don't see how fullbacks like Grygera, Grosso, Motta, et cetera are going to do any better man-marking a player when they can't mark as it is. They can't even square up to an attacker properly. The strength of the zonal defense is that you are a compact unit and hide the flaws of the individual.
We simply don't have the players, nor coach, to be successful using any system at the back.
We simply don't have the players, nor coach, to be successful using any system at the back.
But they aren't even trying to mark.
The full backs may still get beaten, but they may at least be able to stop the player scoring unchallenged.
None of this is suggesting Juve can have a good defence until better players are brought in, but they could certainly be doing better than they are now.
Narrow is good, but Juve are ridiculously narrow.
The full backs may still get beaten, but they may at least be able to stop the player scoring unchallenged.
None of this is suggesting Juve can have a good defence until better players are brought in, but they could certainly be doing better than they are now.
Narrow is good, but Juve are ridiculously narrow.
Very good post and I agree with it 100% except I thought the goal was disallowed due to offside - not a foul.
There was a player offside and even though he never received the ball he was surely interfering with play as he sort of marked out our defenders while acquafresca scored. That's how I saw it?
There was a player offside and even though he never received the ball he was surely interfering with play as he sort of marked out our defenders while acquafresca scored. That's how I saw it?
