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Buck Fuddy

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May 22, 2009
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Honestly, I think there's a decent chance Juve struggles to finish 3rd/4th, ala Pirlo's season
I'm having a difficult time predicting how we'll do.

On the one hand, it's Max' second season now, so that's a massive plus. Makes me think that the scudetto is a definite possibility.
On the other hand, I don't know if the squad itself is any better compared to last season. I doubt it.
 

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Bianconero_Aus

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May 26, 2009
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I'm having a difficult time predicting how we'll do.

On the one hand, it's Max' second season now, so that's a massive plus. Makes me think that the scudetto is a definite possibility.
On the other hand, I don't know if the squad itself is any better compared to last season. I doubt it.
My exact feelings as well.

I think we’ll challenge for the title for sure - even with our current squad, given the shit state of this league. But I’m not sure we are considerably better than last season.

I still expect a couple of improvements before the end of the month tho. Let’s see what happens b
 

Valerio.

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Jul 5, 2014
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as of now, merda are favs to win it

us vs milan for the second

roma ahead of napoli for cl spot
you said it "as of now"
But just today Gazzetta wrote that with Sanchez termination Inter is 140m in red.

So before the end they'll prolly have to sell Skriniar and Dumfries + the rest
and if they sell those 2 for me Milan will be the biggest contender
 

AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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How are we not stronger than last season?
- Basically swapped Bernardeschi for Di Maria
- Ramsey for (even an occasional) Pogba
- De Ligt for Bremer has to be a lateral move at worst.
- Likely to bring in Kostic it seems, so even if he isn't great, it's still a natural left-sided player that is gonna be an improvement over our star LW/LM Rabiot or an out of position Kean
- Fagioli should at least get SOME minutes now over last year's disgraces Rabiot, Arthur, and Rabiot

We should at least win something next season, even if it's just a Coppa Italia.
 

Stevie

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Mar 30, 2003
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We were so bad last year that it will take more than that for us to seriously challenge for the scudetto ( i won't even mention the CL)

We still need one or 2 big signings after Kostic

Btw the scudetto is also the bare minimum we should be aiming for at the start of each season. Anything less is failure.
 

AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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How are we not stronger than last season?
- Basically swapped Bernardeschi for Di Maria
- Ramsey for (even an occasional) Pogba
- De Ligt for Bremer has to be a lateral move at worst.
- Likely to bring in Kostic it seems, so even if he isn't great, it's still a natural left-sided player that is gonna be an improvement over our star LW/LM Rabiot or an out of position Kean
- Fagioli should at least get SOME minutes now over last year's disgraces Rabiot, Arthur, and Rabiot

We should at least win something next season, even if it's just a Coppa Italia.

On Pogba we need to see if its occasional or not, normally they need time to get in some form after an injury so we need good games from him not just the game time.
Chiellini has not been replaced and we have an aging Bonucci.

For me , we are not clearly stronger than last season (still 50-50) but on the positive side its Allegri's second season. He gets a proper full pre season to assess and implement this ideas.No last minutes star player leaving suddenly like CR7 for him to give excuse on poor start .
 

Strickland

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May 17, 2019
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How are we not stronger than last season?
- Basically swapped Bernardeschi for Di Maria
- Ramsey for (even an occasional) Pogba
- De Ligt for Bremer has to be a lateral move at worst.
- Likely to bring in Kostic it seems, so even if he isn't great, it's still a natural left-sided player that is gonna be an improvement over our star LW/LM Rabiot or an out of position Kean
- Fagioli should at least get SOME minutes now over last year's disgraces Rabiot, Arthur, and Rabiot

We should at least win something next season, even if it's just a Coppa Italia.
not taking into account speculation, only what we have done so far:
incoming: di Maria, Bremer, Pogba, Fagioli, Rovella, Gatti
outgoing: Dybala, Morata, de Ligt, Berna, Ramsey, Chiellini

there's still a lot to do yet both for incomings and outgoings, mainly too many CMs (although that problem is slowly getting solved with injuries :D) and not enough attackers, but from transfer rumours it sounds like we're also thinking about possible upgrades in CM, CB, maybe even LB or CF, in each of those cases we'd also need a pair of deals - one in and one out, as we already have a large squad.. imo we're not moving at a good enough pace in the market and it's not a good position to be less than 2 weeks before our first league game
 
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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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On Pogba we need to see if its occasional or not, normally they need time to get in some form after an injury so we need good games from him not just the game time.
Chiellini has not been replaced and we have an aging Bonucci.

For me , we are not clearly stronger than last season (still 50-50) but on the positive side its Allegri's second season. He gets a proper full pre season to assess and implement this ideas.No last minutes star player leaving suddenly like CR7 for him to give excuse on poor start .
Pogba at his worst is still better than Rabiot at his best, that is improvement right there by definition, but it'll come down to health of course. Even then, I think Fagioli is an improvement over the bullshit of last season.
not taking into account speculation, only what we have done so far:
incoming: di Maria, Bremer, Pogba, Fagioli, Rovella, Gatti
outgoing: Dybala, Morata, de Ligt, Berna, Ramsey, Chiellini

there's still a lot to do yet both for incomings and outgoings, mainly too many CMs (although that problem is slowly getting solved with injuries :D) and not enough attackers, but from transfer rumours it sounds like we're also thinking about possible upgrades in CM, CB, maybe even LB or CF, in each of those cases we'd also need a pair of deals - one in and one out, as we already have a large squad.. imo we're not moving at a good enough pace in the market and it's not a good position to be less than 2 weeks before our first league game
A lot left to do because we're not perfect, but instead as I said we have improved.

Losing Chiellini is a downgrade, but no one can touch him anyway at his best.
 

Strickland

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Screenshot 2022-08-03 at 23-21-14 SSC Napoli (@officialsscnapoli) • Instagram photos and videos.png


So 80M of their fans don't have access to smartphones and social media :boh:
instagram (or any social platform) isn't exactly global, instagram seem to have a bit over a billion users in total and probably a lot less active, real users. surely most of tuz dont have an active instagram acc. also you can't assume that every instagram follower of Napoli is a Napoli supporter, I'm definitely not a fan of everything that I follow on social media, f.e. I tend to follow a lot of local politicians and parties, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for each of them. it's an indicator, but I don't think it tells you a lot.

for me the commercial revenue of a club is probably the best indicator on how many supporters the club has, as the sponsors will pay more for more exposure in all the channels, not just social media, the more fans you have, the more kits you are going to sell etc. Based on that Napoli definitely isn't at the top in Italy. acc to Deloitte Juventus is undoubtedly the leader with ~190m yearly commercial revenue, then theres Inter with ~110m, Milan on ~70m and Napoli is probably in a group with Roma and Lazio below 50m (they dont have the revenue breakdown for clubs below top20, but it's pretty safe to assume). if you have 83m fans and on average one fan brings you less than 1 EUR per year, the conclusion is that either your fans are not very dedicated or you're doing something seriously wrong or the estimate is wildly off :D
 
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ALC

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instagram (or any social platform) isn't exactly global, instagram seem to have a bit over a billion users in total and probably a lot less active, real users. surely most of tuz dont have an active instagram acc. also you can't assume that every instagram follower of Napoli is a Napoli supporter, I'm definitely not a fan of everything that I follow on social media, f.e. I tend to follow a lot of local politicians and parties, but that doesn't mean I'm going to vote for each of them. it's an indicator, but I don't think it tells you a lot.

for me the commercial revenue of a club is probably the best indicator on how many supporters the club has, as the sponsors will pay more for more exposure in all the channels, not just social media, the more fans you have, the more kits you are going to sell etc. Based on that Napoli definitely isn't at the top in Italy. acc to Deloitte Juventus is undoubtedly the leader with ~190m yearly commercial revenue, then theres Inter with ~110m, Milan on ~70m and Napoli is probably in a group with Roma and Lazio below 50m (they dont have the revenue breakdown for clubs below top20, but it's pretty safe to assume). if you have 83m fans and on average one fan brings you less than 1 EUR per year, the conclusion is that either your fans are not very dedicated or you're doing something seriously wrong or the estimate is wildly off :D
he’s counting the 45 million Argentinians
 
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Crazy how a hoe basically ruined Illicic's career. He was probably a top 20 player in football in 2019 and had he been available for the PSG tie Atalanta would've likely made a run to the final.

Real shame what happened with him.
 
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