[Seria A] Roma - Juventus (10 Viewers)

Gandalf

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2003
2,038
good performance.. the players were mentally high and focused.. even though Thuram, Cannavaro, Zebina, Emerson and also Del piero were performing well, the main reason for my joy was to see a confident Juve in the feild.. they were cool tempered, didn't tremble after roma equalized.. they played it nice and cool..

what roma players were thinking..?? they were fighting from minute 1..!! lots of actings too.. roma players were mistaken the calcio for WWF..?? and the ref was.. the ref was the worst thing in the game, he let the match get out of his control.. bad call from calcio officials to assign this big game to someone like this ref..
 

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jussiut

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Feb 22, 2005
431
It's good to see fans of other teams here at the forums also, but I'm afraid it isn't much of a discussion if you're not able to give critique to your own team also. I'm mainly talking about the actions of Cufre and Cassano here, but I guess to many Romanistas they were heroes of the game. If they had done the same actions in Juve I'd be so pissed at them, but then again I'm not a romanista.

Claiming that Cassano's pushing in the end was justified is just ridiculous. How many players have you seen rolling out of the field voluntarily? Camoranesi had been holding his ankle for about 5 seconds and Cassano is already all over him like a monkey. Cassano cost Roma at least a minute with his stupid action.
 

Gandalf

Senior Member
Jul 28, 2003
2,038
++ [ originally posted by jussiut ] ++
It's good to see fans of other teams here at the forums also, but I'm afraid it isn't much of a discussion if you're not able to give critique to your own team also. I'm mainly talking about the actions of Cufre and Cassano here, but I guess to many Romanistas they were heroes of the game. If they had done the same actions in Juve I'd be so pissed at them, but then again I'm not a romanista.

Claiming that Cassano's pushing in the end was justified is just ridiculous. How many players have you seen rolling out of the field voluntarily? Camoranesi had been holding his ankle for about 5 seconds and Cassano is already all over him like a monkey. Cassano cost Roma at least a minute with his stupid action.
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good post..

++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
Naughty naughty Ale, but check how goal.com makes Cufre look like the vicitm of wrong doing!!
someone should call Glenn.. :D
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
Very good performance by juve , and this shows why capello is the best , juve played with 4-3-3 which caused roma to dont know how to play , everybody was excellent.
this match shows :
juve must play like this formation in every game
we must attack to score even if we play milan in san siro
totti did not concentrate on the game , he was focusing on how to get to emerson and zebina and that was good for us
forza juve:D
 
Oct 1, 2002
2,090
++ [ originally posted by Majed ] ++
Naughty naughty Ale, but check how goal.com makes Cufre look like the vicitm of wrong doing!!
Sometime I feel Goal.com doesn't like Juve very much.Most of their article about Juve is very biased. such as bad refereeing, etc. in other hand, they rarely mentioned Milan.
 

swag

L'autista
Administrator
Sep 23, 2003
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I'm still at something of a loss for how we scored the goals that we did today -- when there were other, better chances that were called off as dubious offsides at best. We've also come away empty-handed in matches where we produced a lot better offense.

Still, I'll take it! :thumb: Make no mistake -- we deserved to win today. And what the team lacked with precision (as often is the case) was made up for with gutsy play, cool-headed responses to a hockey-like match from Roma, aggressive marking and man-to-man coverage, and a lot of heart and sweat on the pitch to ensure the win down to its final minute.

Certainly, Roma was victim to its share of questionable ref calls (though the Cassano goal illustrated why I think the passive offside rule is retarded). But in the end, the better team won. Roma is still a quality opponent, so to come away with three points at the Stadio Olimpico makes me about as happy as I've been as a juventino since December. :touched:

Cufre is a liability for Roma. No question. And while Totti wasn't as guilty to the level of idiocy he's certainly capable of, he wasn't up to his equal levels of brilliance either. Montella had trouble staying onside. And the Roma midfield, save for the last 12 minutes, really didn't hold on to the ball very well.

Some good play from Buffon (got us out of at least a couple of jams -- and almost the Cassano goal). Blasi was clearly responsible for that goal, however. Still, we miss something clearly without Neddy in there. The trident was a good choice given his absence.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
++ [ originally posted by Alucard Belmont ] ++


Sometime I feel Goal.com doesn't like Juve very much.Most of their article about Juve is very biased. such as bad refereeing, etc. in other hand, they rarely mentioned Milan.
very true, somethings like a clear red card foul nesta commited on Makinwa and the ref didnt saw, werent mentioned,
if we were winning so many matches like that, there would be titles like:
lucky juve won again an undeserved victory by an injury time goal and the help of the refs,
we did player better against roma, than milan against inter,
we were the better team but "we were helped by the refs",
and milan had the "derby man kaka" and the "heart of the champion" :(

i wonder where people see the media protect juve over other team.
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
My ratings :

Buffon 6 ,i dont feel safe with him as i used to be

Zebina 7 ,the best game with juve so far and he had all the pressure of the world

Thuram 7 , solid

Cannavaro 7.5 , solid+goal

Zambrotta 6 ,he had a tough rolle to convert 3-4-3 on 4-3-3 and he did well, but his participation level was less than other days

Camoranesi 6.5 ,almost no mistakes,good work

Emerson 6.5 ,the same here

Blasi 5.5 ,he did run a lot, but he cant keep the ball when its needed

Zalayeta 6.5 ,i didnt expected more from zala than winning the penalty wich gave us the victory,he is a hard worker

Ibrahimovic 6 ,i did expected more than him, a couple of good dribbles, implication on first goal and a missalowed

Del Piero 6.5 ,wasnt as good as the last games,but he was there when we needed him to score the winning goal and once again he prooved he is class,a true sportsman unlike the barbarians totti+cassano
 
Dec 26, 2004
10,656
I've conclude two thing out of this game...

I've always hate Roma, this team keep on presenting the stupid side of football to me, but I'm really surprised to see how @sshole a player of Totti's soccer ability and talent can be , we all know Totti is jerk, but seeing him lose his concentration on the field to invlove in a stupid childy battle against Zebina, Emerson make no real sense to me, this kind of player should never rated as world class regardless of the talent he had....

In the other hand, I really felt impressed last night with Zalayeta, this guy has been with us since 97, I remmber Moggi declaring after he brought him, that he brings an attacker of Vieri's charachter and ability, and now after watching him for 7 years we all know Zalayeta is no where near that, but he prove his worth on his own way
He never complain, or make problems with coaches to be a starter..
he know that his skills is limited comparing to world class players so he try to make impact depending on giving his best to Juve everytime he step to the field....
Somone might said that Zalayeta is lucky to play in a big team like Juve...
Personally I don't think so.....

FORZA ZALAYETA...
F*** TOTTI.....
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,347
I might be the only one, but I felt the referee actually favoured Roma: Totti hit the referee obviously deliberately and got away with it. Despite that he managed to earn two straight red cards IMO. Cufre was an utter disgrace as well and should have been sent off on several occasions. As for our penalty, it indeed was outside the box and it wasn't even a foul. On the other hand Zlatan's goal was unrightly disallowed.
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
++ [ originally posted by romanista ] ++

if the penalty wasnt awarded which it shouldnt have been

the game would have been very different

both teams played hard and physical thats ok
Although I don't like to start the "IF" game but since you started it i would like to participate:
I agree if the penalty was not awarded it would've been different issue. The reply showed Zalayata to be tackled on the line meaning its considered in the box meaning penalty. But lets say it wasn't a penalty..
Ok still 1-1..
How about if Totti got sent off for hitting emerson. What if Cufre got sent off for punching Del Piero. What if Cannavaro got the penatly he deserved when Dellas (if am not mistaken it was Dellas) grabbed him till he managed to drop him down on the box of Roma... What if Totti received his 2nd yellow card after shooting the ball at the ref...
yeah I bet the 2nd half would have been really different with Roma playing with 10 or 9 players rather than 11 and score 1-1 or even 1-2 if cannavaro's PK was awarded.
Still none of this took place.. First hald ended 1-2 and so did the match.
 

Maher

Juventuz addict
Dec 16, 2002
13,521
I hope this match raise the morale of the team to beat real and by the way zlatan goal was NOT OFFSIDE and yes zebina did a very good game.
notice the difference between capello and lippi , if lippi was the coach we could have lost 4-0 but capello he knew how to handle roma:D
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
27,519
++ [ originally posted by m_elayyan ] ++
I hope this match raise the morale of the team to beat real and by the way zlatan goal was NOT OFFSIDE and yes zebina did a very good game.
notice the difference between capello and lippi , if lippi was the coach we could have lost 4-0 but capello he knew how to handle roma:D
thats overeacting and unfair, lippi hadnt the players cap has now
 

ZAF3000

Senior Member
Feb 14, 2005
5,348
I have a question though,,
Whats the deal with Roma (fans, players and management).. Players transfer from one team to another so why all the trouble...
Roma go benefit from Emerson. They got good money. Zebina was on a free contract.
So why all the hate. No respect for a player who gave all his best to your club? Strange.
 

Amer

Senior Member
Feb 13, 2005
11,360
FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA JUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!

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The only thing I am angry of is that montero didnt play so he could brake fvckin toti leg in final minutes and get red card:D
toti really needs some psihological help he cant stand losing against us and I am so glad we won
I just hope montero will do his job next year when he will play for some other club;)

Milan were again so lucky, fvck them we will emerge vistorius at the end of season
 
Sep 28, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by baggio ] ++
About 50 fouls in total. That match was very hapharzard and very hectic in the middle of the park. Roma did build up well in the second half, but Juve's defense was awesome tonite. I think Zebina and Thuram played really well, as did Canna as always. Up front, Dp dint do much, and Ibra created some decent openings. As for the controversial penalty...it wasnt a penalty by any stretch of imagination. He was brought down outside the box, and I would've loved for Juve to have scored another legit goal. Which they did imo, coz Ibra was perfectly aligned with the ball at the time of putting it in to the net when he did. It wasnt given, but the penalty was, so i guess that evens itself out. I think Cassano behaved like a terror through the entire duration of the match, and I really dont see how sporting it was off him to shove Camo off the pitch. With all that talent, its a shame hes so immature. Seriously guys, do we really need to give Mutu away for Cassano?

Anyway so moving in to an important midweek fixture, lets keep our fingers crossed, coz what we could be witnessing is the turning point of our season.

i think a lot more. there were 45 fouls already in the 10th minute of second half. some lads who watched real valencia before saw that and lauged their areses off
 
Oct 29, 2004
644
++ [ originally posted by romanista ] ++


excuse me if i say thank god for that
haha yeh thank god tottis isnt DP or u mite have win something
totti is a world class player inside but stupid outside, he has so much potential but his bad attitude has always let him down. The fact is sum1 like him doesnt deserve to be called world class and i dnt no why u protect him as hes sed he wants too leave roma like a million times.
face it, totti is a failure, whos biding his time at roma until sum1 better comes along. dp is in a different league to totti not talent wise but preofessionally, totti gives football a bad name

as for cassano the talent is unquestionable but u just feel that the longer hes spending with totti the less likely it is that another manager can correct is petulance and stupidity.
 

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