I did not say you are provoking, I said that other come here just to provoke and leave...so far you are a nice dude and I hope you will stay, this is why I asked you
Buy on AliExpress.com
[Seria A] Roma - Juventus (11 Viewers)
- Thread starter Ramin
- Start date
Buy on AliExpress.com
romanista you really seem to be a nice dude,
its nice to have another point of view,
please dont take any of the stuff i post as personally insults,
btw i have two questions:
1- what the roma funs were singing on zebina and helped him to make a great performance?
2- it was a big rain before the match? the pitch wasnt soo muddy, it had an effect on the game speed?
its nice to have another point of view,
please dont take any of the stuff i post as personally insults,
btw i have two questions:
1- what the roma funs were singing on zebina and helped him to make a great performance?
2- it was a big rain before the match? the pitch wasnt soo muddy, it had an effect on the game speed?
I know you hate Zebina now and I guess we can't blame you for that, however he played a great game while being targeted by Totti and the fans.
Yes, that should not have been a penalty. However the referee was behind a few players, obstructing his view of the box and the infraction. I think the linesman would have seen it though, but he did not speak up. Shit happens.
In the end of the day it does even things out. If the score was 1-1 going into halftime Juve would have come out for the second half attacking, not sitting back like we did. It's difficult to say what would have happened, but I doubt the scoreline would be something other than 2-1 for Juve.
One team was playing physical, the other taking cheap shots. You must admit that Totti and Cufre were dirty on the night, especially the latter basically running into the back of Zebina. Even Totti went in cleats up a few too many times. I think Roma was much more dirty than Juve on the night.
I don't understand the problem here. Camoranesi was clearly injured but Cassano was pushing him off the pitch. Don't you lot know what injury time is for? Pushing around an injured player is unacceptable.
Indeed, it was a major joke. Too many silly fouls called, too many wrong decisions made.
Yes, that should not have been a penalty. However the referee was behind a few players, obstructing his view of the box and the infraction. I think the linesman would have seen it though, but he did not speak up. Shit happens.
In the end of the day it does even things out. If the score was 1-1 going into halftime Juve would have come out for the second half attacking, not sitting back like we did. It's difficult to say what would have happened, but I doubt the scoreline would be something other than 2-1 for Juve.
One team was playing physical, the other taking cheap shots. You must admit that Totti and Cufre were dirty on the night, especially the latter basically running into the back of Zebina. Even Totti went in cleats up a few too many times. I think Roma was much more dirty than Juve on the night.
I don't understand the problem here. Camoranesi was clearly injured but Cassano was pushing him off the pitch. Don't you lot know what injury time is for? Pushing around an injured player is unacceptable.
Indeed, it was a major joke. Too many silly fouls called, too many wrong decisions made.
Buffon - Didn't have to that much. Did what he had to do. .Was positioned well when Roma shot wide, except maybe for Totti's powerful header, but that wouldn't have been his fault. [6.5]
Zebina - Impressed me more today helping out the attack in ithe first half and doing well on counter attacks in the 2nd. He hussled extermely well and was relatively cool. I liked how he was covering up things in the central defense when Thuram and/or Cannavaro were out of position. He also did well implementing the offside trap. Unusual for him. At the same time, while he was positioned well, he almost scored two own goals. The first, the ball came pretty unexpectedly towards him and it hit his leg and went wide of the goal. Lucky really. The second one was even more dangerous. he kicked the ball towards goal, but lucky for him, it landed right in Buffon's arms and the ref didn't count it as a passback. Lucky again. Extra points for having to face his former team and having to put up with all the wistling. [6.25]
Thuram - What a rock in defense. Made some awesome last-gasp tackles and was ice cold ( "ice cold" [/man from distance ]). Loses half a point for Roma's goal. Too bad he made one bad choice. He chased the ball instead of sticking with Cassano who pulled the 1-2 with Totti that lead to the goal. Canna had Totti covered. Blasi made the same error. Damn good for someone who was comming up with the flu [7]
Cannavaro - While Thuram did the "distance" and more "smart defending," Fabio did mostly the dirty work of jumping, marking, and hastling their attackers (specially Montella). I love his strength and fighting spirit. It's so great to have a guy like Cannavaro on a team. It amazes me how he fights so hard (in the air too) while always looking composed. He makes the sloppy defending look so great. I love his attitude. He gets and extra .5 for scoring a tough goal that most strikers wouldn't be able to score. [7]
Zambrotta - By his standards, his game was quiet. Didn't do that much in attack. Tried to outpace players a couple of times but always lost possesion. He tracked back well enough though Roma didn't play much on his side in the first half anyway. Got more action defensively in the 2nd. Not bad, but not not great either. [5.75]
Pessotto - Did well. I thought it was very strange to see him in the middle of the pitch. Hustled well when he could. Obviously very slow, but it's amazing to see him keep a consistant form. He's always been consistantly average when playing regularly, and now he continues to do so when being a sub. [5.5]
Emerson - Husstled very well. Made some good tackles and was mostly responsible for stopping Totti. Another good game. Extra .5 for facing his former team and facing all the boos and whistling. [6.5]
Blasi - Looked bad today because everyone was a dirtly little Blasi out there tonight. While everyone else did "dirty work," he was the only won not to provide something extra. He's not good going forward and his touch wasn't great. Did help out the defense though, and when you face someone like Totti, your job isn't that easy. [5]
Camoranesi - Every time I watch Camo this season, he impreses me more and more. He has provided so much help for the team this year, yet he still doesn't get the recognition he deserves. You would swear that he isn't the same person from last year who made all the wrong passes, had the worst first touch, was lazy, complained a lot, and most of all, surpassed DP as being the most inconsistant. He really deserves his starting spot for Juve now. Excellent ball control, smart passes, great crosses, extremely helpful dropping back and defending. He fought so well, yet complained so little when receiving tackles. [7.5]
Zalayeta - I thought he did fairly well. He could have done better when he had a clear shot towards goal though. [6]
Ibrahimovic - Why the hell Rai sport gave him a 7 rating is beyond me. He made one or two moves for 80 minutes. He had a ligit goal disallowed, but it was only a tap in really. His passes were Camoranesi-2003-style! This guy needs a break. Get's an extra .5 for his header that lead to Fabio's goal and his ligit goal. [5.5]
Del Piero - had some bad touches. Fell down when being slightly shuves (as usual) and really didn't make any shots towards goal. He made an uncharacteristic faul in the middle that lead to a yellow card. On the positive side, he did keep his cool when tackled, and he was composed (as usual) with his powerful PK. Overall, I think he did enough to not deserve any critizism from the Media. [6]
Trez - No vote.
Capello - Got his tactics right, and IMO, made the right choices with Subs. Trez needed to get some playing time before Real Madrid. Zlatan wasn't doing much anyway. On current form, Zala kept the ball better than Zlatan. As for the DP-Pessotto sub, I think it was the right choice. Mancini has just come in and Juve needed more player playing out wide. Zambrotta dropped back instead of Pessotto because Zambro is a lot faster. Pessotto covered the LM and even CM because Blasi and Emerson were dropped back further. Great move.
As for Tacchi vs. Blasi, some members disagree with Don Fabio's choice and they suggested bringing Tacchi on instead. I disagree for two reasons. (1) We needed a faster player in a 3 man midfield to close down spaces. Blasi's a lot faster than Tacchi. (2) IIRC, Blasi is suspended for the Madrid game, so resting Tacchi was the best option. This might not count for a real reason, but I think Blasi has a cooler head than Tacchi in these messy games. [6.5]
............
I'll reiterate what I (and other members have been saying), we have no offensive midfield presence. When we see Zebina(RB), Blasi , and Emerson trying to penitrate their offense from the middle, you know that there's a huge gap. We miss Nedved, but we also need a natural offensive mid.
As for the bad refereeing, there's not really much to say. Juve scored two contraversial goals and the ligit goal was disallowed. Roma scored a ligit goal, but their players were too rough.
Cassano should have gotten a yellow for kicking the flag off. Cufre hit players who didn't even have the ball. Cassano shuved an injured player while the ball wasn't in play. IMO, and I'm usually harsh towards Juve, I think it all evens out. Juve were a bit lucky, but I don't see how Roma's play deserved a win, and by how their players acted, they didn't even deserve a draw.
............
On a more positive note, we finally won an important away game and against Roma nontheless. It's been too long really...
Also, I'm no expert, but for many patches durring the game, I thought I head Juve fans chanting and singing in between all those Romanisti.
PS It's comforting to see DP and Zlatan hug.
............
This should give enough boost for our players ahead of Madrid's game. While I continue to predict that this is our last CL game for the season, I think we'll give them a run for their money.
Zebina - Impressed me more today helping out the attack in ithe first half and doing well on counter attacks in the 2nd. He hussled extermely well and was relatively cool. I liked how he was covering up things in the central defense when Thuram and/or Cannavaro were out of position. He also did well implementing the offside trap. Unusual for him. At the same time, while he was positioned well, he almost scored two own goals. The first, the ball came pretty unexpectedly towards him and it hit his leg and went wide of the goal. Lucky really. The second one was even more dangerous. he kicked the ball towards goal, but lucky for him, it landed right in Buffon's arms and the ref didn't count it as a passback. Lucky again. Extra points for having to face his former team and having to put up with all the wistling. [6.25]
Thuram - What a rock in defense. Made some awesome last-gasp tackles and was ice cold ( "ice cold" [/man from distance ]). Loses half a point for Roma's goal. Too bad he made one bad choice. He chased the ball instead of sticking with Cassano who pulled the 1-2 with Totti that lead to the goal. Canna had Totti covered. Blasi made the same error. Damn good for someone who was comming up with the flu [7]
Cannavaro - While Thuram did the "distance" and more "smart defending," Fabio did mostly the dirty work of jumping, marking, and hastling their attackers (specially Montella). I love his strength and fighting spirit. It's so great to have a guy like Cannavaro on a team. It amazes me how he fights so hard (in the air too) while always looking composed. He makes the sloppy defending look so great. I love his attitude. He gets and extra .5 for scoring a tough goal that most strikers wouldn't be able to score. [7]
Zambrotta - By his standards, his game was quiet. Didn't do that much in attack. Tried to outpace players a couple of times but always lost possesion. He tracked back well enough though Roma didn't play much on his side in the first half anyway. Got more action defensively in the 2nd. Not bad, but not not great either. [5.75]
Pessotto - Did well. I thought it was very strange to see him in the middle of the pitch. Hustled well when he could. Obviously very slow, but it's amazing to see him keep a consistant form. He's always been consistantly average when playing regularly, and now he continues to do so when being a sub. [5.5]
Emerson - Husstled very well. Made some good tackles and was mostly responsible for stopping Totti. Another good game. Extra .5 for facing his former team and facing all the boos and whistling. [6.5]
Blasi - Looked bad today because everyone was a dirtly little Blasi out there tonight. While everyone else did "dirty work," he was the only won not to provide something extra. He's not good going forward and his touch wasn't great. Did help out the defense though, and when you face someone like Totti, your job isn't that easy. [5]
Camoranesi - Every time I watch Camo this season, he impreses me more and more. He has provided so much help for the team this year, yet he still doesn't get the recognition he deserves. You would swear that he isn't the same person from last year who made all the wrong passes, had the worst first touch, was lazy, complained a lot, and most of all, surpassed DP as being the most inconsistant. He really deserves his starting spot for Juve now. Excellent ball control, smart passes, great crosses, extremely helpful dropping back and defending. He fought so well, yet complained so little when receiving tackles. [7.5]
Zalayeta - I thought he did fairly well. He could have done better when he had a clear shot towards goal though. [6]
Ibrahimovic - Why the hell Rai sport gave him a 7 rating is beyond me. He made one or two moves for 80 minutes. He had a ligit goal disallowed, but it was only a tap in really. His passes were Camoranesi-2003-style! This guy needs a break. Get's an extra .5 for his header that lead to Fabio's goal and his ligit goal. [5.5]
Del Piero - had some bad touches. Fell down when being slightly shuves (as usual) and really didn't make any shots towards goal. He made an uncharacteristic faul in the middle that lead to a yellow card. On the positive side, he did keep his cool when tackled, and he was composed (as usual) with his powerful PK. Overall, I think he did enough to not deserve any critizism from the Media. [6]
Trez - No vote.
Capello - Got his tactics right, and IMO, made the right choices with Subs. Trez needed to get some playing time before Real Madrid. Zlatan wasn't doing much anyway. On current form, Zala kept the ball better than Zlatan. As for the DP-Pessotto sub, I think it was the right choice. Mancini has just come in and Juve needed more player playing out wide. Zambrotta dropped back instead of Pessotto because Zambro is a lot faster. Pessotto covered the LM and even CM because Blasi and Emerson were dropped back further. Great move.
As for Tacchi vs. Blasi, some members disagree with Don Fabio's choice and they suggested bringing Tacchi on instead. I disagree for two reasons. (1) We needed a faster player in a 3 man midfield to close down spaces. Blasi's a lot faster than Tacchi. (2) IIRC, Blasi is suspended for the Madrid game, so resting Tacchi was the best option. This might not count for a real reason, but I think Blasi has a cooler head than Tacchi in these messy games. [6.5]
............
I'll reiterate what I (and other members have been saying), we have no offensive midfield presence. When we see Zebina(RB), Blasi , and Emerson trying to penitrate their offense from the middle, you know that there's a huge gap. We miss Nedved, but we also need a natural offensive mid.
As for the bad refereeing, there's not really much to say. Juve scored two contraversial goals and the ligit goal was disallowed. Roma scored a ligit goal, but their players were too rough.
Cassano should have gotten a yellow for kicking the flag off. Cufre hit players who didn't even have the ball. Cassano shuved an injured player while the ball wasn't in play. IMO, and I'm usually harsh towards Juve, I think it all evens out. Juve were a bit lucky, but I don't see how Roma's play deserved a win, and by how their players acted, they didn't even deserve a draw.
............
On a more positive note, we finally won an important away game and against Roma nontheless. It's been too long really...
Also, I'm no expert, but for many patches durring the game, I thought I head Juve fans chanting and singing in between all those Romanisti.
PS It's comforting to see DP and Zlatan hug.
............
This should give enough boost for our players ahead of Madrid's game. While I continue to predict that this is our last CL game for the season, I think we'll give them a run for their money.