Sergio Agüero - ST - Atletico Madrid (75 Viewers)

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baggio

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I would like to believe the deal broke down when Athletico disregarded our intent or inability to come back with a counter offer. For all you know, it maybe made Aguero feel we didn't want him as badly. And perhaps changed his mind to go to a club that wanted him since he couldn't go to Madrid anyway. I think he would go to the club that wanted him most eventually. Speculation perhaps, but that's all that we can do now. But seeing Marrotta's all talk no cock with every deal, I'd be lead to believe that he doesn't necessarily deserve the benefit of the doubt. I don't think it's the will of the player to go to ManCity. It's Marrotta's job to have convinced him IF we considered him our primary target.
 

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Osman

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He wants to go a club that gives the best chances to win titles/play in a better league, its funny if you think that isnt the main reason, and the deal fell because we didnt want him enough. The part of this equation that doesnt want enough is Aguero when it comes to Juve, we are his last resort/backup option. Nothing more, it was obvious before, and his last comment makes it way more clear.
 

baggio

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@Osman: Don't think so. Obviously more has transpired than we know at this point. And a part of that, is us giving Atletico a scoff able offer. What does that indicate to Aguero as far as our ambitions are concerned? I don't think Marrotta was able to sell the project well enough, unfortunately.
 

Osman

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@Osman: Don't think so. Obviously more has transpired than we know at this point. And a part of that, is us giving Atletico a scoff able offer. What does that indicate to Aguero as far as our ambitions are concerned? I don't think Marrotta was able to sell the project well enough, unfortunately.
Our lack of ambitions that puts him off has been shown ON the pitch, not on the negotiation table, where no one offers the best possible offer off the bat, unless they are fools or have too much money for their own sense.
 

baggio

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We're not debating whether he signed! I think he agreed terms. We're questioning the very real possibility of this deal breaking down with the club. Giving other clubs the time, and space to out manoeuvre us. In no way, all things considered, is ManCity a better option than Juventus as a long term career choice.
 

Cheesio

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The only offer he got is ours.
Marotta pays the money Aguero is ours. Simple is that, you guys need to read what he said on the Interview. He was asked about England and he said that he would like to play there .
If he was asked about Italy he would've said he would like to play there. =
Our offer wasn't good enough or Marotta backed off from The negociations, it's not Aguero who rejected us.
 

baggio

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Agnelli and Marrotta even acknowledged they wouldn't get into a bidding war. I think that co es down to their inability to beat other clubs with the same amount of money.
 

Osman

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The only offer he got is ours.
Marotta pays the money Aguero is ours. Simple is that, you guys need to read what he said on the Interview. He was asked about England and he said that he would like to play there .
If he was asked about Italy he would've said he would like to play there. =
Our offer wasn't good enough or Marotta backed off from The negociations, it's not Aguero who rejected us.
He spefically did not mention Italy, not just us, where we show ourselves to be 7th best twice in a row, but Italy that has more alluring Milan and Inter, he didnt mention the league as an enticing one, because it isnt if you have better options. As EPL and the La Liga he plays in are.

I find your above post borderline deluded, his choice is Real Madrid, and if not them, one of the main top/richest more ambitious clubs IF they go for him. We are NOT one of his more preferred options, heck, not even the league is. Yes he would come if there arent any other options, but its still fairly early into the summer market, why would he accept first offer if its not a club that is his preferred destination? It says ALOT that our selling point, and MAIN reason to get him is "we are the only offer". That defacto says we have no chance, he wouldnt come, if there were others. He is clearly exploring his options, since its early july, before deciding on whats best in the options he got.
 

Osman

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Agnelli and Marrotta even acknowledged they wouldn't get into a bidding war. I think that co es down to their inability to beat other clubs with the same amount of money.
That goes down to establishing bargaining chip in negotiating, meaning establishing they wont go all out for a target no matter what, meaning being held ransom, even if its one they want alot. Plus knowing their more limited then others budget.
 

Osman

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Its not over at all, but its a reality check for many of the deillusioned posters here, Aguero is waiting for better options. Our shot is he doesnt get any other options. It depends on other marquee strikers moving from their clubs or not. One sale of a top striker in a big club can stat a domino effect of transfers, that wouldnt be good for our chances with him.
 

Cheesio

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@ Osman, I like you think that RM was his first choice, but i don't see him going there with them getting Neymar, his agents also confirmed our interest and said that Aguero would like to play here and that he have no preference, as confirmed by His teammates Palermo.
Why would the negociations stop and we would turn for Rossi, The only logical answer that ATM didn"t accept our offer and we backed off. I still beleive that bar RM if we made an acceptable offer for ATM, Aguero would be ours. the problem is that we didn't and now we are looking forr the second option who is Rossi.
 

baggio

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That goes down to establishing bargaining chip in negotiating, meaning establishing they wont go all out for a target no matter what, meaning being held ransom, even if its one they want alot. Plus knowing their more limited then others budget.
Unfortunately, at this time, we can't run a market on our terms as far as a list players are concerned. That means less room for negotiations and using nudgers to buy players that justify their price tags. And with a guy like Aguero, you know he's more likely to justify what we pay for him than not. We need to realise that at this stage in our post calciopoli history, we need to pay a premium to get a particular type of player here. And if we have the money, and are intent on signing him, then we should, without acting like we've just come off a 3-1 win over ManUtd at Wembley.
 
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