Sergio Agüero - ST - Atletico Madrid (42 Viewers)

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icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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Fix possession and give the team confidence and add a couple WC players to the team. AND two new fullbacks we will be fine.
You see we are talking the same thing! Just that you think we need more firepower up front while I think we have enough. My concern is that like every year since Calciopoli we'll ignore the defence while we run behind offensive players. We have a potent strikeforce in Serie A and that's the only competition we are playing. I'm not against signing Aguero (you can read back a couple of pages if you want) but it shouldn't be priority.

And Sorenson shouldn't be a right back. He's solid defensively and that's about it. I'd take him every day of the week and twice on Sundays over Motta, but we shouldn't be playing him at RB if we are going to build a solid defensive unit who can complement the offense.
 
May 4, 2004
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As much as I want Aguero, forget about him. He doesn't have the desire to come and he'll cost us 45 million. Get Sanchez for 25-30 million, he'll be cheaper, we can afford to spend more money on another quality player and Sanchez can play on so many positions and adapt to different formations whether its as a winger, a trequartista or an SS, he can do it all.
:tup:
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Since the defense was mentioned, this is how much we spent on it in the post-Calciopoli serie A seasons:

- Bonucci 15.5m
- Andrade 10.5m
- Criscito 7.5m
- De Ceglie 3.5m
- Molinaro 2.5m
- Grosso 2m
- Motta 1.25m loan
- Knežević 0.75m loan
- Gastaldello 0.65m
- Rinaudo 0.6m loan
- Traoré 0.5m loan
- Sorensen 0.45m
- Barzagli 0.3m
- Grygera free
- Salihamidzic free
- Mellberg free
- Cannavaro free
- Caceres free loan
- Camilleri free loan
- Stendardo free loan

Total = 45.5m eur for 20 players or 2.2m eur per player.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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You see we are talking the same thing! Just that you think we need more firepower up front while I think we have enough. My concern is that like every year since Calciopoli we'll ignore the defence while we run behind offensive players. We have a potent strikeforce in Serie A and that's the only competition we are playing. I'm not against signing Aguero (you can read back a couple of pages if you want) but it shouldn't be priority.
Signing Kun is not a priority, but signing a player of his caliber should be. Aside from ticket/shirt sales, we need a game changer. We don't have one. Matri-Quag will not "outfirepower" us into the top 3. I share your concern about neglecting the defense to date, but that is changing it seems and there are some magnificent players possibly available this summer that could quite literally catapult us this club into the CL next year...that's what worries me the most. I think our defense will stabilize this summer but that alone will not get us to the top 3. We need an allstar LM to help Krasic out in terms of creativity from the flanks, but we also need a WC player that just being on the pitch alone will draw defenders to him opening up space for Matri or Quag, etc. There is so much more than goals from a WC player up top that we need...nevermind shirt sales, but more like assists, opening up play, pulling defenders, link up, possession, fear factor...list goes on and on that a player like Kun could give.

You can't say Quag-Matri is a guaranteed top 3...no way man, not with all top 4 teams making bank off of CL this year that will look to make their team even stronger. Landing 2-3 WC players needs to be a priority. We already have half the problem fixed in defense. It is no coincidence that lower level teams out performed our defense for varying reason and you can't convince me that they had "better players"...it's a combo of a better coach, better tactics, etc.
 

Suns

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May 22, 2009
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Since the defense was mentioned, this is how much we spent on it in the post-Calciopoli serie A seasons:

- Bonucci 15.5m
- Andrade 10.5m
- Criscito 7.5m
- De Ceglie 3.5m
- Molinaro 2.5m
- Grosso 2m
- Motta 1.25m loan
- Knežević 0.75m loan
- Gastaldello 0.65m
- Rinaudo 0.6m loan
- Traoré 0.5m loan
- Sorensen 0.45m
- Barzagli 0.3m
- Grygera free
- Salihamidzic free
- Mellberg free
- Cannavaro free
- Caceres free loan
- Camilleri free loan
- Stendardo free loan

Total = 45.5m eur for 20 players or 2.2m eur per player.
I know its weird.
 
Apr 15, 2006
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Since the defense was mentioned, this is how much we spent on it in the post-Calciopoli serie A seasons:

- Bonucci 15.5m
- Andrade 10.5m
- Criscito 7.5m
- De Ceglie 3.5m
- Molinaro 2.5m
- Grosso 2m
- Motta 1.25m loan
- Knežević 0.75m loan
- Gastaldello 0.65m
- Rinaudo 0.6m loan
- Traoré 0.5m loan
- Sorensen 0.45m
- Barzagli 0.3m
- Grygera free
- Salihamidzic free
- Mellberg free
- Cannavaro free
- Caceres free loan
- Camilleri free loan
- Stendardo free loan

Total = 45.5m eur for 20 players or 2.2m eur per player.
:sergio: No wonder.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Since the defense was mentioned, this is how much we spent on it in the post-Calciopoli serie A seasons:

- Bonucci 15.5m
- Andrade 10.5m
- Criscito 7.5m
- De Ceglie 3.5m
- Molinaro 2.5m
- Grosso 2m
- Motta 1.25m loan
- Knežević 0.75m loan
- Gastaldello 0.65m
- Rinaudo 0.6m loan
- Traoré 0.5m loan
- Sorensen 0.45m
- Barzagli 0.3m
- Grygera free
- Salihamidzic free
- Mellberg free
- Cannavaro free
- Caceres free loan
- Camilleri free loan
- Stendardo free loan

Total = 45.5m eur for 20 players or 2.2m eur per player.
Very nice, thanks Alen. :tup:
 

Cheesio

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Jul 11, 2006
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for all people who are sayin we don't need aguero, getting aguero will not just mean that will be like 10x better as a football team, but it wiil also be a statement that juve is back , it well help the team regain some of it lost popularity, with aguero we will attract more quality players
 

Fake Melo

Ghost Division
Sep 3, 2010
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Kun is 22 and already scored 145 official goals in his career. That's like half of Del Piero's official goals, on top of the 15 year age difference.
I am not downplaying Aguero's talent but DP scored those goals in a very tough Serie-A while Aguero have been playing in Mickey mouse league. I'd like to see how he is outside Spain.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
10,893
Not sure even where to start here...

You can have a great defense but if we can't score we won't win. If we can't have a game where we control possession, we won't win and that cause breakdowns on the field. I'm not bailing out the defense at all but maintaining possession falls on all 11 players on the field, not just the back four.
You don't need to control possession to win games. Far from it.
 

Osman

Koul Khara!
Aug 30, 2002
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Since the defense was mentioned, this is how much we spent on it in the post-Calciopoli serie A seasons:

- Bonucci 15.5m
- Andrade 10.5m
- Criscito 7.5m
- De Ceglie 3.5m
- Molinaro 2.5m
- Grosso 2m
- Motta 1.25m loan
- Knežević 0.75m loan
- Gastaldello 0.65m
- Rinaudo 0.6m loan
- Traoré 0.5m loan
- Sorensen 0.45m
- Barzagli 0.3m
- Grygera free
- Salihamidzic free
- Mellberg free
- Cannavaro free
- Caceres free loan
- Camilleri free loan
- Stendardo free loan

Total = 45.5m eur for 20 players or 2.2m eur per player.
That says it all of why we had terrible defences, only two real investments, and one of them only played 4 games, and the other one isnt much of an improvement, just ok/decent.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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We should have kept Criscito....I tried telling you guys. We could have sold him this year or last year to an investment...but nooooooooooooooooooooo we were "afraid"
 
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