next year we just need to add Audero instead of Rubinho. If Marrone leaves too then replace him with Clemenza or something.
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Our media is going nuts over this. While I hate that he probably is cutting his competitive career short, it'll be great for TFC. They just sold that asshat Defoe back and hopefully Giovinco will show the quality of Calcio. Tfcs fanbase reminds me of United fans and it makes me sick. It'll be nice to see some italian players.
It's pretty funny. If you go on ESPN, or other North American sports news sites that are reporting this, the comment sections are flooded with people saying how awesome this signing is, and how it's crazy that "a player of his calibre" from a top European team would come to the MLS in his prime, and "this move will be a game changer" and "the floodgates are opening" for top European players to start playing in the MLS.
Little do they know... just how talented la formica atomica really is.
Little do they know... just how talented la formica atomica really is.
It's pretty funny. If you go on ESPN, or other North American sports news sites that are reporting this, the comment sections are flooded with people saying how awesome this signing is, and how it's crazy that "a player of his calibre" from a top European team would come to the MLS in his prime, and "this move will be a game changer" and "the floodgates are opening" for top European players to start playing in the MLS.
Little do they know... just how talented la formica atomica really is.
Little do they know... just how talented la formica atomica really is.
I've seen the games live including TFC play Roma. Roma played its 'B' team and it looked like they were playing games with TFC. Pjanic even scored on a trick shot. Also, there were more Totti jerseys than TFC jerseys.
Why is everyone shitting on his decision? If I was him I'd do the same thing...
Why would I want to go play for a Fiorentina type team, and earn less than 2M a season, not play in the CL, probably wouldn't be a star.
When I can go to TFC, probably crush the league, earn 7M (More than triple of what he'll earn in Italy, and more than anyone is making in Serie A currently I believe - I don't think some people understand how much money that actually is...), and be the star of the team.
Giovinco isn't a world beater, there's no real benefit of staying in Europe. Why? So he could make the 5th striker spot for the Azzurri and sit on the bench...which isn't even a guarantee with the young kids coming up.
I don't know..I just think he made the right choice career wise.
Why would I want to go play for a Fiorentina type team, and earn less than 2M a season, not play in the CL, probably wouldn't be a star.
When I can go to TFC, probably crush the league, earn 7M (More than triple of what he'll earn in Italy, and more than anyone is making in Serie A currently I believe - I don't think some people understand how much money that actually is...), and be the star of the team.
Giovinco isn't a world beater, there's no real benefit of staying in Europe. Why? So he could make the 5th striker spot for the Azzurri and sit on the bench...which isn't even a guarantee with the young kids coming up.
I don't know..I just think he made the right choice career wise.
He made a great choice, absolutely fantastic.
People seem to forget that not every player in your club is a die hard fan willing to do hard time on the bench in their primes when they could go elsewhere, make ridiculous bank and probably be THE man.
He flopped at Juve compared to what people expected of him, but I will always say that half of that was down to us especially after we got him back from Parma only to play the Worlds tallest midget in a 3-5-2 predominantly with his back to goal doing ridiculous hold up play, when he needs space to operate and doesn't need to be dueling with CBs twice his size.
He's not starter material, really. But we made him look 3x worse than he really is.
People seem to forget that not every player in your club is a die hard fan willing to do hard time on the bench in their primes when they could go elsewhere, make ridiculous bank and probably be THE man.
He flopped at Juve compared to what people expected of him, but I will always say that half of that was down to us especially after we got him back from Parma only to play the Worlds tallest midget in a 3-5-2 predominantly with his back to goal doing ridiculous hold up play, when he needs space to operate and doesn't need to be dueling with CBs twice his size.
He's not starter material, really. But we made him look 3x worse than he really is.
I tend to agree with that. I know Parma is a "provincial side" but you don't play that well if you're terrible. His 2011/2012 year was flat out dominant.
I think it was a combination of Conte's system, the lack of game time, and the shot to his confidence that really hurt him. He wasn't Juve material but he'd start on most other Serie A sides, and he'd probably fair pretty well in a 4-3-3.
I totally agree with the notion that forcing a 5 foot 5 weakling to hold up play, dual with center backs, and act as a decoy for Vidal makes very little sense. While Conte's system was great for us, it certainly wasn't great for Giovinco.
The funny thing is the lack of understanding of where players play in tactical formations in Toronto. Toronto media has been suggesting he'll play in a formation like this, which is clearly out to lunch:
------Altidore--------Gilberto--------
--------------Giovinco----------------
Both of those forwards are prima puntas who can't pass. Gilberto will hold up play well, while Altidore can't because his first touch is terrible. Then they have Giovinco playing behind the as a trequartista, which Allegri literally just commented on...
Also the first article "TFC signs Midfielder Giovinco"...Midfielder? Really?
I think it was a combination of Conte's system, the lack of game time, and the shot to his confidence that really hurt him. He wasn't Juve material but he'd start on most other Serie A sides, and he'd probably fair pretty well in a 4-3-3.
I totally agree with the notion that forcing a 5 foot 5 weakling to hold up play, dual with center backs, and act as a decoy for Vidal makes very little sense. While Conte's system was great for us, it certainly wasn't great for Giovinco.
The funny thing is the lack of understanding of where players play in tactical formations in Toronto. Toronto media has been suggesting he'll play in a formation like this, which is clearly out to lunch:
------Altidore--------Gilberto--------
--------------Giovinco----------------
Both of those forwards are prima puntas who can't pass. Gilberto will hold up play well, while Altidore can't because his first touch is terrible. Then they have Giovinco playing behind the as a trequartista, which Allegri literally just commented on...
Also the first article "TFC signs Midfielder Giovinco"...Midfielder? Really?
He has some year to play good football, he is too young to play for MLS...bad decision from him. He should go to Fiorentina or wherever he wants. 
Overall though, it's a fantastic decision. Money really does matter, his life will probably take a huge up turn with this move.
But why is he criticized now? Football is his job and it's obvious he does it for money. I didn't see so many people criticizing Vucinic who did the exact same thing. It's his choice and I wish him all the best. It's obvious he's not good enough for Juve so I'm good with his departure, even for free. Luckily we're not extending his contract.