Sebastian Giovinco (57 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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Rollie

Senior Member
Apr 15, 2008
5,143
Losing is one thing, but losing against Milan AND Inter that's unforgivable! The way they played and how they seemed to not give a fuck is what was frustrating. But I'm sure most people (namely myself) where spewing bullshit because of the anger and the frustration from the lost against Peelan was still fresh in our minds.
They were both emotional letdowns bud, kind of classic in sports, really. Big match against Inter, trying to make it 50 games undefeated in the league, but just didn't show up. Got out worked, and it wasn't close. We had been struggling for awhile up to that point, and while it hurt, it wasn't really surprising - and it actually seemed to help shake us up a bit, which was needed.

As for the Milan loss, that's the real classic letdown - coming off the biggest win really since pre-calciopoli (Chelsea match was so huge), short week, on the road against a struggling club who Juventus underestimated. Should have probably been more squad rotation for the match, the team looked tired as hell. But still, we lost because of a non-existent penalty - so just gotta suck it up, and keep rolling, one foot after the other.

It's nice to beat our rivals, win those emotional match ups, but during some of our worst seasons we've done well against the big teams, and pissed it all away against the minnows. All that matters are the tables at the end of the season. Considering we haven't had our coach on the bench yet, this club has done tremendously well so far this season.

Anyway, back to work for real this time. Have a good day, man.
 

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Apr 29, 2006
3,158
They were both emotional letdowns bud, kind of classic in sports, really. Big match against Inter, trying to make it 50 games undefeated in the league, but just didn't show up. Got out worked, and it wasn't close. We had been struggling for awhile up to that point, and while it hurt, it wasn't really surprising - and it actually seemed to help shake us up a bit, which was needed.

As for the Milan loss, that's the real classic letdown - coming off the biggest win really since pre-calciopoli (Chelsea match was so huge), short week, on the road against a struggling club who Juventus underestimated. Should have probably been more squad rotation for the match, the team looked tired as hell. But still, we lost because of a non-existent penalty - so just gotta suck it up, and keep rolling, one foot after the other.

It's nice to beat our rivals, win those emotional match ups, but during some of our worst seasons we've done well against the big teams, and pissed it all away against the minnows. All that matters are the tables at the end of the season. Considering we haven't had our coach on the bench yet, this club has done tremendously well so far this season.

Anyway, back to work for real this time. Have a good day, man.
I think it also comes down to the quality of the squad. Even in Seria B we had players the likes of which we are unlikely to see in the club for at least a decade. When ADP made RM cry was another moment where you have a mediocre team, but one genius is enough. Standing ovation at the Bernabeu - what is there more to say about his performance?
Sure some will argue that we had our fair share of garbage fill-ins as well. True, but this is where inspiration factors in. Some players give 120% because they feel that anything less will be letting the quality in their team down not to mention falling flat on their noses before an entire dressing room and the world in general.
The performance against Milan was typical for a balanced team. Everyone is shite, but since its a common thing responsibility has no face. It shows the importance of an overpaid player, but underlines the uttermost need for one with proportional shoulders. Otherwise its gets completely detrimental to the whole idea. That is also why its very, very hard to pick those players. Gigi is such a player, but being a goalie he cannot set the example... seems Pirlo can't be this player too. And the logical conclusion inevitably follows - there must be a reason strikers are the best paid players in football.

Saying that I have to admit I thought Aguero was such a guy. He was horrible/pathetic against Chelsea - sure, won a penalty, but he was nothing like Alex. I thought Dzeko was linking up better than him up to that point. Obviously Messi is that kind of a player, but it ain't news. Going on the same line of thinking Tevez wasn't better than Aguero and Balotelli has been their 4th choice due to the lack of a 5th striker in the squad. Money guarantees nothing.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Really? I didn't see anything useful from Quag. Both he and Vucinic were static receiving the ball and trying silly flick layoffs against a wall defense. Pretty much every chance broke down. Did we even have a shot on goal first half? I think maybe one from Quag, which should have been called offside.

Giovinco was certainly playing against more tired players, but they were hardly on their knees at that point. His movement and speed was far more useful in stretching the defense, it created more space for Vucinic and the Milan defense got deeper to respond. Defenders want to play against someone they can easily track, who they can directly go up against, and that's what they had with Vuci-Quag playing back to the wall football. Those Milan donkeys don't want to be chasing some little insect running across their back line.

Giovinco's problems remain that even with his movement he isn't decisive, and loses too many physical duels.

Incidentally, that mongoloid Yepes was extremely lucky to have not given a penalty away for that late challenge on Giovinco. He basically just smashed straight through him. If Giovinco had tried to control that header or delayed it then the ref would have to seriously look at it. I've noticed that defenders are generally allowed to throw him around like a doll even when it's an obvious foul, as if because he is so lightweight he would never have won the duel anyway. I'm not sure that's quite how you are supposed to officiate a game, but I've noticed it a lot in Serie A.
Well, in a way you confirm what i say

you say "giovinco's main problems remain that even with his movement, he is never decisive, and loses nearly every physical duel, is tossed around, and doesnt score. to make it worse, he isnt "protected" in the serie a, like for example messi is in la liga"

wel yes, i agree, giovinco is bad against teams that park the buss, or play with a deep defensive line. he has no room to burst into without beeing physicaly challenged.

that made him useless in the milan game



vucinic and quag werent good, but hence, they still are better options then giovinco, and they were improving in the second half. the only good option would have been bendtner or matri instead of quag. because then you could start using crosses, and have the upcomming midfielders take advantages of areal clearances.



giovinco is good for what he did against chelsea : make use of the space when leading the game, and kill with counter. but even then, he still is far to less profilic.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
Guys so many here are way too harsh on Gio. He worked hard when he came on and looked lively. We know he is not a superstar but to say he is shit is not valid.
I know it was not his type of game to come in. If he does come in, i would support him, normally.

BUT, he made the mistake of going all "i can be decisive", wich he hasent been for a while and is his main issue. he was all words, and again did nothing.

because of that, i overlook that it was a very bad situation for him to come onto the field, and focus on "SHUT THE HELL UP AND PROVE IT ON THE FIELD INSTEAD OF EMPTY TALK"


really, i cant stand players who do that. marchisio did it a few times under del neri, and i heavely criticised him for it, despite liking him. "we must spit blood on the pitch, then was the worst midfielder we had"

sorry, nope, cant stand that. i'm glad marchisio now lives up to his words and beyond. if giovinco starts doing that, i will respect him again. but right now, he has an awfull lot to prove
 

delpiero4life

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2010
690
I know it was not his type of game to come in. If he does come in, i would support him, normally.

BUT, he made the mistake of going all "i can be decisive", wich he hasent been for a while and is his main issue. he was all words, and again did nothing.

because of that, i overlook that it was a very bad situation for him to come onto the field, and focus on "SHUT THE HELL UP AND PROVE IT ON THE FIELD INSTEAD OF EMPTY TALK"


really, i cant stand players who do that. marchisio did it a few times under del neri, and i heavely criticised him for it, despite liking him. "we must spit blood on the pitch, then was the worst midfielder we had"

sorry, nope, cant stand that. i'm glad marchisio now lives up to his words and beyond. if giovinco starts doing that, i will respect him again. but right now, he has an awfull lot to prove

It doesn't bother me when players say such things. I can see Gio works hard, we can't really call him lazy?
 

Gerd

Senior Member
Dec 25, 2011
5,955
gio is second best attacker after quag.

give him more playing time and build the club around him. he will shine through
what ??? he is not WC , you build the team around pirlo around zidane around messi around ronaldo , not around giovinco . Unless your name is parma obviosly
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
81,098
They were both emotional letdowns bud, kind of classic in sports, really. Big match against Inter, trying to make it 50 games undefeated in the league, but just didn't show up. Got out worked, and it wasn't close. We had been struggling for awhile up to that point, and while it hurt, it wasn't really surprising - and it actually seemed to help shake us up a bit, which was needed.

As for the Milan loss, that's the real classic letdown - coming off the biggest win really since pre-calciopoli (Chelsea match was so huge), short week, on the road against a struggling club who Juventus underestimated. Should have probably been more squad rotation for the match, the team looked tired as hell. But still, we lost because of a non-existent penalty - so just gotta suck it up, and keep rolling, one foot after the other.

It's nice to beat our rivals, win those emotional match ups, but during some of our worst seasons we've done well against the big teams, and pissed it all away against the minnows. All that matters are the tables at the end of the season. Considering we haven't had our coach on the bench yet, this club has done tremendously well so far this season.

Anyway, back to work for real this time. Have a good day, man.
LIKE A BOSS

I think some people really do need to calm the fuck down. We have had it so good for the past year and a half, people forgot that we lose matches too sometimes.

Forza Rollie!
 

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