Sebastian Giovinco (104 Viewers)
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He doesn't defend well enough; his stamina is not up to par; he is too small and fragile 
These excuses makes me 
Play the effin guy! The team in playing like shit anyway. Screw formations! I mean, things can't get any worse; the results aren't coming, and the performances have been abysmal! Perhaps he is the "breath of fresh air" we are seeking
These excuses makes me Play the effin guy! The team in playing like shit anyway. Screw formations! I mean, things can't get any worse; the results aren't coming, and the performances have been abysmal! Perhaps he is the "breath of fresh air" we are seeking
I've been following Giovinco since his Empoli time. He has some eye candy techniques but he is not decisive. If you say he doesn't play because he can't "defend", well, it's not like Balotelli, Pato and Jovetic "defend".
Balotelli already played a bigger part than Giovinco last year when Casiraghi said these words about Azzurri? It's that simple. Players like Balotelli and Pato impressed in the limited time so they got more playing time in the process. In their first year, their playing was no more than that of Giovinco.
Giovinco the best player in the 2009 U-21 Euro? That's what some medias said and what some fans thought (some of who were impressed by some of Giovinco's eye-candy tricks). Creative kind of players draw attention. But tell me, what end products has Giovinco contributed to the team? In Olympics he scored a spectacular goal (I gave credit to that) in the match against Honduras (It's just Honduras...) and then he was largely disappointed. In Euro-21 he contributed 2 assists and one of which was mainly credit of Balotelli's great long shot. In Toulon, he scored 2 goals, one was a free-kick and another one was just pure luck (both goals were scored on one match against Coste d'ivoire). In the match against Japan U-23, Morimoto had a better match than him. Italy won by penalty. In the final against Chile, Italy won 1-0 by Olvaldo's goal after Giovinco was subtituted. He won the MVP because he was the only attacking star in the champion team Italy. Then again there weren't really stars and strong teams in that Toulon.
In the end, he just lacks end products. He scored no more than 4 goals in 30 matches in the Italian U-21 as a starter. He played in Empoli 35 matches and had 3-4 assists...
I follow the youth team very closely. Actually I've watched every match of the U-21 Azzurrini, including the qualification. They never impressed me in the attack. Other than winning teams like Albania by great scores, they draw 0-0 1-1 with teams like Greece, Croatia. Actually their best win against a decent team was when Giovinco was suspended and Balotelli scored two goals and they won Israel by 3-1. This team was decent and went in the semi-final because they had a good defense. The problem is players like Motta, Criscito, Marchisio were not the kind of players that drew attention because they are not "creative", eye-candy like. But they completed their tasks well and are the better ones compred to other players of ther age in their respective positions. In Giovinco's case, assists and goals are his obligations, a player of his posiction and characteristics should have more end products than what he produced. I can name quite some players who are better than him of his characteristics and of his age.
In their respective postions and characteristics, I doubt what Giovinco has done as an attacking force was better than that of Grosso as a LB.
As for Giovinco's Juve performances, I've watched most of the Juve matches. He only played well in 4 matches, against Bologna, against Catania, against Catania in Copa Italia last season, against Sampdoria this season. So far he has proved that he is a useful sub, but not good enough to start. Also everytime he played well as a sub, the coaches (Ranieri, Ferrara) all tried to start him and he disappointed again (and usually not once, but constantly) and the coaches had to put him again as a sub. How does he deserve a starting spot anyway it's not like he hasn't been given any.
Balotelli already played a bigger part than Giovinco last year when Casiraghi said these words about Azzurri? It's that simple. Players like Balotelli and Pato impressed in the limited time so they got more playing time in the process. In their first year, their playing was no more than that of Giovinco.
Giovinco the best player in the 2009 U-21 Euro? That's what some medias said and what some fans thought (some of who were impressed by some of Giovinco's eye-candy tricks). Creative kind of players draw attention. But tell me, what end products has Giovinco contributed to the team? In Olympics he scored a spectacular goal (I gave credit to that) in the match against Honduras (It's just Honduras...) and then he was largely disappointed. In Euro-21 he contributed 2 assists and one of which was mainly credit of Balotelli's great long shot. In Toulon, he scored 2 goals, one was a free-kick and another one was just pure luck (both goals were scored on one match against Coste d'ivoire). In the match against Japan U-23, Morimoto had a better match than him. Italy won by penalty. In the final against Chile, Italy won 1-0 by Olvaldo's goal after Giovinco was subtituted. He won the MVP because he was the only attacking star in the champion team Italy. Then again there weren't really stars and strong teams in that Toulon.
In the end, he just lacks end products. He scored no more than 4 goals in 30 matches in the Italian U-21 as a starter. He played in Empoli 35 matches and had 3-4 assists...
I follow the youth team very closely. Actually I've watched every match of the U-21 Azzurrini, including the qualification. They never impressed me in the attack. Other than winning teams like Albania by great scores, they draw 0-0 1-1 with teams like Greece, Croatia. Actually their best win against a decent team was when Giovinco was suspended and Balotelli scored two goals and they won Israel by 3-1. This team was decent and went in the semi-final because they had a good defense. The problem is players like Motta, Criscito, Marchisio were not the kind of players that drew attention because they are not "creative", eye-candy like. But they completed their tasks well and are the better ones compred to other players of ther age in their respective positions. In Giovinco's case, assists and goals are his obligations, a player of his posiction and characteristics should have more end products than what he produced. I can name quite some players who are better than him of his characteristics and of his age.
In their respective postions and characteristics, I doubt what Giovinco has done as an attacking force was better than that of Grosso as a LB.
As for Giovinco's Juve performances, I've watched most of the Juve matches. He only played well in 4 matches, against Bologna, against Catania, against Catania in Copa Italia last season, against Sampdoria this season. So far he has proved that he is a useful sub, but not good enough to start. Also everytime he played well as a sub, the coaches (Ranieri, Ferrara) all tried to start him and he disappointed again (and usually not once, but constantly) and the coaches had to put him again as a sub. How does he deserve a starting spot anyway it's not like he hasn't been given any.
i gotta agree that the endproduct is lacking "lately"... we all remember the serie b game (was it serie b?) when he did that great assist for trezeguet, but other than looking good its often that giovinco starts his moves pretty well .. going past one or two defenders but either tries to shoot way to late so it is blocked or gets fouled or pushed off the ball.
there was some time a year ago or perhaps a bit more where i read some interview how giovincos coach did tell him to improve his shooting and i watched a game of giovinco for italy where he really tried a few longshots ... one of them resulted in a goal but he does not even shoot anymore.
i would like to see giovinco on the field, but i am realistic enough to see that zaccheroni will try to field his first eleven without giovinco to see how we cope with liverno and if adjustments are needed he will bring him. its too dangerous to build a new formation on a player that has had very few matchtime lately and who was injured lately
there was some time a year ago or perhaps a bit more where i read some interview how giovincos coach did tell him to improve his shooting and i watched a game of giovinco for italy where he really tried a few longshots ... one of them resulted in a goal but he does not even shoot anymore.
i would like to see giovinco on the field, but i am realistic enough to see that zaccheroni will try to field his first eleven without giovinco to see how we cope with liverno and if adjustments are needed he will bring him. its too dangerous to build a new formation on a player that has had very few matchtime lately and who was injured lately
Bench Amauri and play him, bench Melo and play him...JUST PLAY HIM!
I'm just, wow.. This is absolutely disgusting.
I've followed two of my favourite players from the start of their careers. Zlatan was the first and now Seba. Both with huge and obvious talents. The first always had faith from the coaches, even when he sucked big time in Ajax and for us with Capello. Seba on the other hand, he never had that luxury, he is not even close. Its sad. Hopefully next season he's going to show what kind of a player he is for another team and people like Ranieri, Ciro, Zaccheroni, Blanc and Secco will regret the days they neglected him.
I've followed two of my favourite players from the start of their careers. Zlatan was the first and now Seba. Both with huge and obvious talents. The first always had faith from the coaches, even when he sucked big time in Ajax and for us with Capello. Seba on the other hand, he never had that luxury, he is not even close. Its sad. Hopefully next season he's going to show what kind of a player he is for another team and people like Ranieri, Ciro, Zaccheroni, Blanc and Secco will regret the days they neglected him.
It's how they role in Italy, not just Juve.
They try to find fucking stupid reasons when he or some other player is not playing. Just one year ago they were saying he's too young. How can he get better if he's not playing.
Messi and C.Ronaldo started playing in the first XI when they were 19? That wouldn't be possible in Italy. Here they just say that they are not experienced enough.
They try to find fucking stupid reasons when he or some other player is not playing. Just one year ago they were saying he's too young. How can he get better if he's not playing.
Messi and C.Ronaldo started playing in the first XI when they were 19? That wouldn't be possible in Italy. Here they just say that they are not experienced enough.
Where'd you like him to go Suns? I'd love to have him in Germany. We fit his type of play.
Just disgusting. I'd like to cry for him, he's 23 and pretty much a done player. He needs to leave this land if he ever wants to shine again in his live.
They never get the chance to develop and improve because they never get the chance to make mistakes. This makes me so angry and unbelievable sad...
Just disgusting. I'd like to cry for him, he's 23 and pretty much a done player. He needs to leave this land if he ever wants to shine again in his live.
They never get the chance to develop and improve because they never get the chance to make mistakes. This makes me so angry and unbelievable sad...
To a normal coach who plays him from time to time. I have no doubt about his immediate succes whenever he gets the chance to be a regular, he's going to shine. If Arsene is still interested, but I don't think so. But teams like Fiorentina, Genoa, Villareal, Atl Madrid, Sevilla or even Werder Bremen with Marin and Özil.
Giandonato just saw his last game at Juve. I hope he enjoyed his 15mins of youth fame.
Gio, poor Gio. It's time to cash in on him, DC, probably Marchisio, Lanza, Daud, Rossi, Yago and Immobile. We all know they won't play him. Not matter the injuries, suspensions, bans, etc this club will find a reason not to give youth a chance here.
Gio, poor Gio. It's time to cash in on him, DC, probably Marchisio, Lanza, Daud, Rossi, Yago and Immobile. We all know they won't play him. Not matter the injuries, suspensions, bans, etc this club will find a reason not to give youth a chance here.
