Man I hate it when you or others do this, to explain/rephrase something very simple, you think everyone is that dumb here?
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anyway its good that Ciro believes a lot on him and knows that trequarstista aint his main position!!!
He played as a sub in the Chelsea match. He has proven that he is useful as a sub and he has never proven himself a valid starter and that he should get more playing time than now (A sub's playing time is depended on the situation). As a starter, the opponents study and mark you carefully. As a sub, enters in the 60-70 minutes of the game, is another thing.
People might say that's because he hasn't gotten many opportunities as a starter. But last season he had like only 1-2 good match as a starter (against teams like Bologna and Catania). I remember he played as badly as now in the match against Palermo as a starter and we lost 1-2 in Turin and people said the same things they are saying now, that it was because the whole team played badly, long balls and etc. In the match against Borisov, the two goals Iaquinta scored were assisted by him but if you've watched that match, he didn't play well at all. It was another similar situation. He didn't search to receive the ball as Diego and most of the time the ball reached him, our attack ended because he lost the ball constantly (the first goal Borisov scored was a counter-attack due to his direct loss of the ball). In the match against Lecce, other than a freekick, he played another bad match. Always the same thing, some glimplse of briliance, but never has the consistancy in a mtach and very few end products.
This pre-season, he also played badly in Peace Cup as a starter. In Italy U-21 he was always a starter but never showed that he has the level to start in Juve.
So even if he can create a few opportunities by a flash of brilliance and sometimes with luck this opportunity converts into goal, it doesn't mean he is a valid starter.
1. With him on the pitch, either he is lost for most of the match (can't receive the ball or get the pass from the teamates. And I thought it was because of long ball that the whole team was bad and etc, but watch how Diego plays, with the same teammates, the difference is huge to when Giovinco is on the pitch).
2. Or he is out-muscled and being tripped at a very far distance from the box, which is not very useful. Or he lost the ball and the opponents organized a dangerous counter-attack. Overall, you can't guarantee that the attack is fluid with such a player in the pitch, especially in the middle of the pitch.
3. He contributed very little to the defense and to the control of the game and his attacking products are not huge enough to compensate that. Overall, no shot ability of a striker (very bad shots, indeed), no control ability of a midfielder. Winger? A winger a la Messi scored many goals and doesn't lose the ball like he did.
So he can be valid sub but the problem is he complains and whines about playing time and said things like he didn't play because he is Italian (This is not goal.com shit.) It's unwise and annoying. A Juventus player and youth product he is, the fans overprotect him. IMO, he hasn't shown anything to deserve this. A few assists are not enough. Even Zalayeta scored important goals for Juve.
People might say that's because he hasn't gotten many opportunities as a starter. But last season he had like only 1-2 good match as a starter (against teams like Bologna and Catania). I remember he played as badly as now in the match against Palermo as a starter and we lost 1-2 in Turin and people said the same things they are saying now, that it was because the whole team played badly, long balls and etc. In the match against Borisov, the two goals Iaquinta scored were assisted by him but if you've watched that match, he didn't play well at all. It was another similar situation. He didn't search to receive the ball as Diego and most of the time the ball reached him, our attack ended because he lost the ball constantly (the first goal Borisov scored was a counter-attack due to his direct loss of the ball). In the match against Lecce, other than a freekick, he played another bad match. Always the same thing, some glimplse of briliance, but never has the consistancy in a mtach and very few end products.
This pre-season, he also played badly in Peace Cup as a starter. In Italy U-21 he was always a starter but never showed that he has the level to start in Juve.
So even if he can create a few opportunities by a flash of brilliance and sometimes with luck this opportunity converts into goal, it doesn't mean he is a valid starter.
1. With him on the pitch, either he is lost for most of the match (can't receive the ball or get the pass from the teamates. And I thought it was because of long ball that the whole team was bad and etc, but watch how Diego plays, with the same teammates, the difference is huge to when Giovinco is on the pitch).
2. Or he is out-muscled and being tripped at a very far distance from the box, which is not very useful. Or he lost the ball and the opponents organized a dangerous counter-attack. Overall, you can't guarantee that the attack is fluid with such a player in the pitch, especially in the middle of the pitch.
3. He contributed very little to the defense and to the control of the game and his attacking products are not huge enough to compensate that. Overall, no shot ability of a striker (very bad shots, indeed), no control ability of a midfielder. Winger? A winger a la Messi scored many goals and doesn't lose the ball like he did.
So he can be valid sub but the problem is he complains and whines about playing time and said things like he didn't play because he is Italian (This is not goal.com shit.) It's unwise and annoying. A Juventus player and youth product he is, the fans overprotect him. IMO, he hasn't shown anything to deserve this. A few assists are not enough. Even Zalayeta scored important goals for Juve.
He whined like what, once? It's not like he's continuously doing it.
And the fact of the matter is, when the team is playing badly, it's not all his fault. You can't seriously expect someone to step up every time when the whole team is poor. Hell, Del Piero doesn't always step up to the plate when we're garbage.
Giovinco has a long ways to go, but you're being too harsh on him.
And the fact of the matter is, when the team is playing badly, it's not all his fault. You can't seriously expect someone to step up every time when the whole team is poor. Hell, Del Piero doesn't always step up to the plate when we're garbage.
Giovinco has a long ways to go, but you're being too harsh on him.
He didn't play badly he was average, none played better (excluding buffon)
Amauri has been playing shit for 4 games, he can't find the net, yet none complains about him. I didn't even expect Gio to play any better, cos he asked for playing time he didn't ask for a game of 70 minutes....
Can someobody tell me here when was the last time Giovinco played 90 mins for Juventus (I don't remember that). Give time to boy and he will show us what he is capable of.
He gave great ball to Amauri but he didn't score, he delivered very good crosses but out strikers didn't score.
@Juventine I don't agree with anything you said, you are just being too harsh on Gio, if Diego gets another injury serious (God forbid) you'd suck giovinco's balls after that. Admit it or not, he fucked up chelsea last year alone, when our team was playing pretty poor before he came on...
Amauri has been playing shit for 4 games, he can't find the net, yet none complains about him. I didn't even expect Gio to play any better, cos he asked for playing time he didn't ask for a game of 70 minutes....
Can someobody tell me here when was the last time Giovinco played 90 mins for Juventus (I don't remember that). Give time to boy and he will show us what he is capable of.
He gave great ball to Amauri but he didn't score, he delivered very good crosses but out strikers didn't score.
@Juventine I don't agree with anything you said, you are just being too harsh on Gio, if Diego gets another injury serious (God forbid) you'd suck giovinco's balls after that. Admit it or not, he fucked up chelsea last year alone, when our team was playing pretty poor before he came on...
