Sebastian Giovinco (65 Viewers)

Would you bring Giovinco back next season?

  • Yeah, we could use him

  • Nope, get rid of him


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Kasaki

Moggi's Assistant
Jun 1, 2010
13,750
No please stop. Those players suit our team, Giovinco needs to grow and not just arrive in flashes because his game is tactically limited and he needs to find his proper role as a player. Wide in a 4-3-3 seems the most likely.
As far as I'm concerned we would be a lot more flexible with gio he could play a 4-2-3-1 or a 4-3-3 or a 4-4-1-1 or even 4-4-2 to an extent, so all thes tactical limitation stuff is :andyandbarcelona: , who do we play to be creative now that krasic is gone against milan?
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,888
Where in a 4-4-2? Left wing ahead of De Ceglie lol? In Del Piero's position?

We are already flexible, last season we were so flexible we had holes all over the pitch trying to fit in players like Diego and Giovinco, Giovinco doesn't suit how he sees the team.

Where would you play Giovinco against Milan?
 

Kasaki

Moggi's Assistant
Jun 1, 2010
13,750
Where in a 4-4-2? Left wing ahead of De Ceglie lol? In Del Piero's position?

We are already flexible, last season we were so flexible we had holes all over the pitch trying to fit in players like Diego and Giovinco, Giovinco doesn't suit how he sees the team.

Where would you play Giovinco against Milan?
Del Piero's position ? surerely the man is a legend but since when did he have a starting spot in this juve? He can play as a second striker
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Ill just say that is weird as hell that 3 coaches didnt gave him playtime after he was clearly doing good, and after we desperately needed a player like him to deliver.

Dont you find that just too weird? I want an explanation, and even when i think that ranieri was mentally limited, i just cannot think that those 3 coaches were simply blind or somethimng.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,922
No please stop. Those players suit our team, Giovinco needs to grow and not just arrive in flashes because his game is tactically limited and he needs to find his proper role as a player. Wide in a 4-3-3 seems the most likely.
You mean garbage players suit our team? How does that work?

Ill just say that is weird as hell that 3 coaches didnt gave him playtime after he was clearly doing good, and after we desperately needed a player like him to deliver.

Dont you find that just too weird? I want an explanation, and even when i think that ranieri was mentally limited, i just cannot think that those 3 coaches were simply blind or somethimng.
It isn't weird at all. Just take a look at the Marchisio example. All these managers tried to use him out of position, so they simply follow each other along like little ducklings. Lippi is the exception of course, as he has proven himself to be a capable manager. The others have not.

I don't understand the "he wasn't given a chance" argument. Who in their right mind would not keep him if he's as good as people say he is? I mean we've fielded some of the worst footballers in top football. You got your Molinaro, De Ceglie, Palladino...and Giovinco is no where near as bad as they are. Do you guys think Juventus has some personal vendetta against Giovinco?

And what has he done outside of Juve to rave about? At least Criscito gets called up to the NT. When was the last time Giovinco was called up?
But those listed players above prove how insane this whole Giovinco situation actually is. Personally, I'd say that a combination of a herd-like mentality and general ideals when it comes to Italian managers have played a part in keeping Giovinco off the team, no matter what he does.

But again, it's not an attitude problem. That is what you and others originally claimed. If he had an attitude problem, he wouldn't be playing at Parma either. So that's not the real problem, but rather simply cognitive dissonance in looking at the player.

Diego "wasn't given a chance" either. Some of it doesn't have to do with the quality of the player as much as how they might fit or not in a system.
True. But that's a problem, isn't it? This is another issue I have with the managers we've had recently, as Lippi actually used systems suited to our roster, not the other way around. But now we're in the business of bringing in four wingers, only playing one while using a CM out wide, simply because of a system we are forced into using.

Just because Goal decided to add in their own part saying that Giovinco was blaming Del Piero doesn't mean it's true. Your first line is just a quote from someone at Goal who thought that made better news.
:tup:

Why are folks reading Goal anyway? Don't they know it causes chemical imbalances to brain functioning?
 

Suns

Release clause?
May 22, 2009
22,084
:lol: at Goal saying Giovinco blames Del Piero. Corriere dello sport asked him if he has heard anything from DP and he said no and that they don't have that kind of connection, there is nothing controversial in that, is it?

And to Tahir who just went bananaz on Giovinco claiming he's a shit player. You do actually know that he has been one of the top performances in the league so far and his average rating is one of the highest in Gazzetta? You should think yourself to know why he wasn't played. He didn't fit into the formations our coaches were using. And while he was playing, he was always productive and created a lot. When Giovinco got the chance to play for us he was always one of the best players we had, with the Azzurrini he was the shining star and was on the level of Özil just a year ago and now with Parma he's easily their top performer. Seba is class and we never gave him the chance enough to show us what he has been showing for Azzurrini and Parma.

I've always said that if I had the talent Seba has and Juventus treated me that way I would be bitching in media every day. Thing is that Seba saw us mess his career up but he never spoke a word about it. Just look at Pepe for example, he doesn't even have half of the talent Seba has but just a few games on the bench and he's already bitching about playing time.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
115,922
Good point, Suns. Why aren't those complaining about Giovinco, who isn't even on our squad, complaining about Pepe?

Also, where are all those folks that said Lanzafame was better than Giovinco only because he's on the squad now?

:disagree:
 

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